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Chase

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Sometimes when you're trying to move quickly with a girl, she'll stop and seem to think. This deliberation never goes in your favor; the longer you stand and wait doing nothing while she stands there deliberating, the worse your position gets by the second.

You can tell when she's thinking by watching her eyes; typically when the eyes slip to their lower right corners (that'll be to your left if you're face-to-face with her), she's in auditory digital, or internal self-talk. You want to snap her out of AD as quickly as possible, but pushing her here is only going to raise her defenses.

What you WANT to do is run a pattern interrupt on her mid-thought process, so get her to voice her thoughts. Ask her, "What are you thinking?" to get her to start telling you what's on her mind. Once she does, you can ask her questions about it, e.g.

  • You: Come on, let's get out of here.

    Her: [thinking, AD]

    You: What are you thinking? Tell me what's going on in there.

    Her: I was just thinking that I like you but I'm not ready for this.

    You: You mean a nightcap?

    Her: I mean going home with you.

    You: You're ready for it. You're in complete control; you call the shots. You can stay as long as you like or leave as early as you like. The only thing I care about is you having an amazing night.

    Her: I'll have a MORE amazing night if we stay here.

    You: [looking around] [laughs] You will NOT have a more amazing night here. Come on, we're going. Can we go now? [hold out your hand to her]

    Her: Okay, but JUST for 30 minutes.

    You: Cross my heart. Unless you want to stay more.

    Her: Okay, let's go.

Once she's out of AD and talking out her objections with you, you can properly address them. You'll never properly address them when they're in her head, so get them out and vocal if you want to not be stuck standing there wondering what went wrong.

Chase
 

The Tool

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BRILLIANT CHASE!! I have run across this problem a couple of times and had no clue what to do, I tried the but you will have more fun with me bit, but I never added the "you call the shots and decide when you want to leave". Probibly why I had a couple bail out on me. Now I will implament that additional wording if I come across this type of thing again. Excellent post, Thank you.
 

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Great technique Chase. I do something like this but instead of getting logical I do something off the wall that interrupts her internal dialog and returns her to a heightened emotional state. If I realize Shes debating something in her head I'll immediately take her hand and spin her around and say something completely off the wall. This confuses her and resets something called her "OODA Loop" and takes her out of logical mode and makes her more open to suggestion. I then follow up with my suggestion again, "lets get out of here."

Resetting the OODA Loop is something I learned from a self defense instructor a long time ago and has many uses outside seduction. In a self defense scenario saying something to the attacker thats off the wall right before he attacks will make him lower his guard. For example, when a guy is in your face and about to attack calmly say to him "I love you" and give it half a second to sink in, he will be confused and you can immediately attack him instead.

This also works if a woman is in a negative emotional state and is in your face bitching at you and wont calm down. Say something off the wall, her OODA loop resets, and calmly tell her to sit down and she most likely will.
 
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I actually do this, didn't even realise until you mentioned it and that's exactly what I say "whatcha thinkin?" :)

I also find it gets them talking into quite a deep convo too.

Good post, thanks :)
 

Nova

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this is interesting.

i never really interrupt a girl between me asking her to move and her actually moving. i always wait for her to either move with me without much hesitation and then build up her comfort after we sit, or to address her 'concern's' after she refuses, usually in the same way that you mentioned, by making it seem like there is no reason not to move and that she will surely have a better time once she does.. and of course its only for 'five minutes' ;)

chase, how much difference would you say it makes waiting for the girl to explicitly say 'no', or something to that effect before addressing her objections and actually addressing her objections before she says anything?

sometimes a girl will appear to have that look of should i go with him or not, im not sure, before moving with me regardless, after perhaps a little bit of persuading from me such as holding out my hand or walking over slowly just assuming she will come.

i would think it very hard to know when to 'wait it out' without addressing whats on her mind, and making her concerns a reality vs actually addressing her objections straight away.
 
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