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I read this article and i realised i am having more trouble cause i am the most handsome and over confident guy who has a lot of social value. I have seen senior girls getting cold from checking me out to not making eye contacts with me. I have also seen many beautiful seniors girls transforming from giving compliments to me on one day and avoiding and getting cold with me on other day. IT just frustates me. This girl who is quite over confident and fully into me i just could not respond to her eye contact for for a day cause i was busy and the next day she was too cold with me avoiding me. And i was talking with a really sweet girl she has gone quite cold some times with me but i overcame it with shoiwing more vulnerability sometimes at the cost of frame. I think this sucks and i am quite young. I want help from some experienced guys. Cause i am tired cause one day i am the centre of desire for women to being completely ignored other day.
 

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I read this article and i realised i am having more trouble cause i am the most handsome and over confident guy who has a lot of social value.
Kudos on the confidence part, but that's your perception.
You don't know how other people (really) see you until you get to know them.
I guarantee there is a lot of chicks out there that don't see you like that.
I have seen senior girls getting cold from checking me out to not making eye contacts with me. I have also seen many beautiful seniors girls transforming from giving compliments to me on one day and avoiding and getting cold with me on other day.
Again, your perception.
Maybe she had a bad day, maybe her cat died, maybe she got a bad grade....who knows.
Chances are it has nothing to do with you whatsoever.
IT just frustates me. This girl who is quite over confident and fully into me i just could not respond to her eye contact for for a day cause i was busy and the next day she was too cold with me avoiding me.
Have you talked to her, or is it just flirting?
If it's heavy flirting and you didn't make a move yet, she has probably moved on (lost window)
And i was talking with a really sweet girl she has gone quite cold some times with me but i overcame it with shoiwing more vulnerability sometimes at the cost of frame.
Good.
The hyper-alpha bs red pillers love to talk about needs to stop ASAP
I think this sucks and i am quite young. I want help from some experienced guys. Cause i am tired cause one day i am the centre of desire for women to being completely ignored other day.
For the third time, your perception.
You seem fairly young...chances are you are still building your persona.
You probably need to take more action in-field and stay less in you head jerking off to your inflated ego
(yes, I'm giving you tough love)
 

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I definitely understand where you’re coming from @POB , and the objectiveness of physical attractiveness.

But I also have to say speaking from personal experience that I kind of relate to what the author of this post is saying.

I don’t contribute all of the way girls tend to react to me to my appearance but it definitely plays a role. Think of you when you got all of your fundamentals in check and the way girls display that nervous tension seemingly on the first interaction.

This happens to me ALOT and I can almost immediately tell the girls who are heavily invested in my appearance from the girls who are on the fence/ not interested in my outward appearance. Contribute this to my other fundamentals if you want but regardless there is some reaction being had to my appearance before interacting and while interacting.

Different flavors of this behavior is, weird flighty behavior, social awkwardness, negging behavior, physical avoidance, overly flirty/ aggression, self qualifying.

These girls are almost always very compliant, yet don’t contribute much to the interaction. It’s like they want to go along with me but are too nervous to make conversation. I’ve adjusted by showing alot more interest than what is recommended by most.

I noticed authors and posters on this site and the forum don’t often touch on this subject so I would love to hear your thoughts as well.
 
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Ohhh, my bad, now I got you!!!

It's like those super beautiful chicks where most guys know they don't have a shot, so they try to diss their beauty by having all kinds of weird behaviors around them.

I don't think I have a definitive answer for that...It's something that is really outside of our control. I think you can look at the way Charlize Theron handles herself. She is not my cup of tea (too slim for my taste, no ass or titties) but I concede that she's gorgeous, even in her late 40s. My cousin is a movie journalist and interviewed her some years ago. She said that she is one of the coolest down-to-earth celebs she has ever met.

Some things she does in person:
- act as a normal person, not as someone amazingly handsome and famous everyone is baffled at;
- dress very casual but elegant;
- always look at people in the eyes;
- be curious and ask about their stuff first, without even talking about herself (shows she don't have a huge ego, even if she could);
- curse and talk thrash;
- self deprecating sometimes;

Just look for some of her interviews and you will see what I'm saying.
This one just came to mind, but I'm sure there is a lot of her material out there:


If you are too handsome, you must convey the image of a regular person (as much as it goes against a lot of seduction's advice).
You only run game once that first barrier is down (on their side).
Hope that makes sense.
 
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If you are too handsome, you must convey the image of a regular person (as much as it goes against a lot of seduction's advice).
You only run game once that first barrier is down (on their side).
Hope that makes sense.

Damn.... :) Right.

Chase 'Skipping Steps' and if we are smart, knowing where the person is, where they check their mental boxes about you and where their 'phases of life', are.

And then the second part on barrier breaking.

It is like ads. Are they in the awareness stage and so on. We can't just bash info/content/convo, onto people.

z@c+

Ecosystem within Ecosystem within Ecosystem.
Levels of Realities reinforcing each other. My post here still sucks because levels of realities. Lack of understanding where GC members is on this issue (Awareness stage, etc) and then the linkage of, vehicle of.
 
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Ohhh, my bad, now I got you!!!

It's like those super beautiful chicks where most guys know they don't have a shot, so they try to diss their beauty by having all kinds of weird behaviors around them.

I don't think I have a definitive answer for that...It's something that is really outside of our control. I think you can look at the way Charlize Theron handles herself. She is not my cup of tea (too slim for my taste, no ass or titties) but I concede that she's gorgeous, even in her late 40s. My cousin is a movie journalist and interviewed her some years ago. She said that she is one of the coolest down-to-earth celebs she has ever met.

Some things she does in person:
- act as a normal person, not as someone amazingly handsome and famous everyone is baffled at;
- dress very casual but elegant;
- always look at people in the eyes;
- be curious and ask about their stuff first, without even talking about herself (shows she don't have a huge ego, even if she could);
- curse and talk thrash;
- self deprecating sometimes;

Just look for some of her interviews and you will see what I'm saying.
This one just came to mind, but I'm sure there is a lot of her material out there:


If you are too handsome, you must convey the image of a regular person (as much as it goes against a lot of seduction's advice).
You only run game once that first barrier is down (on their side).
Hope that makes sense.
Precisely! I feel like you hit the nail on the head.


Here’s a physical example of a reaction sometimes had (0:41). It was unbelievably hard trying to segway into conversations when the other party acts like that. You start to wonder if there was something wrong with you when you’re unaware. Then when you screen they get even more nervous because it feels like a test.

Thanks @POB
 

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It is like ads. Are they in the awareness stage and so on. We can't just bash info/content/convo, onto people.
Not without knowing a bit where they coming from.
If they come from a place of inferiority (which seems to be the case of the OP), it's your job to level down the playing field so they feel comfortable around you.
Here’s a physical example of a reaction sometimes had (0:41). It was unbelievably hard trying to segway into conversations when the other party acts like that. You start to wonder if there was something wrong with you when you’re unaware. Then when you screen they get even more nervous because it feels like a test.
Noooo, forget about screening!!! If that happens again, now it's the time to gently take her by the hand and tell: "just chill babe, everything is ok.... I'm just a regular dude.....Look, I like you, so let's get to know each other shall we?". Be on her side and show her you realize how it is to be in her shoes talking to you.

I'll let the OP chime in before commenting again....maybe it resonates with him too.

Edit: tone down the energy and vibe too! Think more Henry Cavill and less The Rock
Edit2: be very uplifting to other people...always lift their spirits if they criticize themselves (X2 to women). Being around gorgeous people tend to exacerbate our own physical flaws and insecurities.
 
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