PROCESS: Structured Game Progression

[KJ Francis]

Here are some process outlines I aim to combine, then pare down to essentials. My default is to get to know someone, so this structures an order to remember to tease, touch, delay qualification and deep diving, set sexual frames, etc.

Mystery - Venusian Arts Handbook

60 Years of Challenge - Complete Game Revision System

Chase - Sexual Escalation Script:

Tactics Tuesdays: Sexual Escalation Script

What steps should you follow to get to sex with a girl? This sexual escalation script lays it all out, down to the timing of each move needed to bed a girl. We’ve got a guy over on the forum who’s struggled to make things sexual with girls. He’s a mechanical learner who can follow rules but has...

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Chase - Day Game Beginner Guide:

How to Meet Girls via Day Game (Beginner Guide)

Day game is the approach a man uses to meet new women during the daytime. This beginner guide tells you all you need to know to start day gaming girls. Contents 1. What Is Day Game? What Is NOT Day Game? 2. Day Game Hurdles Approach Anxiety Spam Approaching Ejecting Too Soon 3. How to Do Day...

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Alek - Updated Group Theory

A New Take on Mystery’s Group Theory for Meeting Girls in Groups

Group Theory came to the seduction world via the Mystery Method. Here I challenge some of its underlying mechanisms and give my own take on picking up girls in groups. Guys learning pickup and seduction often find that pulling a girl from a group can be a bit challenging. How do you take a girl...

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Alek - Sex Talk Gambits

STICKIED: Sex Talk Gambits Compilation (And more)

Hey guys. So this is a compilation of my sex-talk gambits. I write this primarily because I sometimes forget some of the great gambits myself. I have been doing sex talk since late 2008 and trust me, using the same material over and over does get old. So what happens is that I will change my...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[KJ Francis]

Venusian Arts

• A1
  • Warm-up approaches as momentum, social proof, required preselection for later
  • Look for proximity and eye contact. Otherwise 3-Second Rule, energy level slightly higher
  • Face away as if leaving, open over shoulder. If moving, walk same trajectory, slightly in front
  • False Time Constraint if possible. Open group, indirect. End A1: Social hook point
• A2
  • Lock in (lean against something with girl facing) sometime during A2
  • "So how do you all know each other?"
  • Telegraph disinterest with false disqualifiers (wouldn't work out; she is too nice) and teasing
  • DHV (to rest of group if possible): preselection, leader, protector, emoting, successful risktaker
  • Compliance Test, then give IOI, then IOD. If no compliance, give IOD, then DHV, then retest
  • End A2: receive IOIs
• A3
  • Screening (if you could be anything, best qualities, school, growing up)
  • Kino escalation, then push away. Use Takeaways
  • Compliance Test, then give IOI, then IOD. If no compliance, give IOD, then DHV, then retest
  • Qualifiers, IOI, then IOD. Statement of Interest. Compliment style/energy/poise, behavior
  • End A3: Bait her DHV, reward, repeat

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• C1
  • Move
  • Only IOD used in C1 is freezeout
  • Rapid mutual questioning, eliciting values, and passively showing commonality
  • Rich description of emotions experienced from her favorite activity in ideal setting
  • Vulnerable grounding story from childhood to current identity
  • First instance of mutual compliance in C1
  • End C1: Bounce or Time Bridge

 

[KJ Francis]

Tactics Tuesdays: Sexual Escalation Script

How to Meet Girls via Day Game (Beginner Guide)

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"You are having way too much fun over here."


"You can't look at me like that and not say hi."


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• A1
  • Situationally relevant opener if possible. If moving, genuine compliment (fashion, hair, energy, walk). Greet with name and handclasp. Linger touch to gauge interest.
• A2
  • Break ice. Tease within first 30 seconds to set clear sexual frame. Continually tease and chase frame throughout. Cold Read.
  • Compliance Test
  • Two minutes in: move her, with protective touch (depending on comfort: back of arm, upper back, lower back)
• A3
  • Screen/qualify, get compliance
  • Three minutes in: forearm touch during a tease. (Repeat every five minutes throughout, escalating up arm, down to waist)
  • Touch and verbalize inspecting jewelry, clothing, etc.
  • Inquire current plans, explore logistics

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• C1/C2
  • Five to ten minutes in: move to seating with hand on lower back if close, or linked arms/hand if far. Sit with legs touching. Put arm around and pull her in if needed, then remove arm.
  • Start deep dive, rapport building. Ask questions with lingering touch (five seconds). Hand on thigh (20 seconds) during her deep disclosure
  • Chase framed tease and touch, interspersed every four to eight minutes during deep dive.
  • Seed the pull during this phase

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• Look for escalation windows. Otherwise pull after 90-120 minutes. Leave with linked arms/hand, lightly flirting/teasing.
• In isolation, give two minutes of space, then sit close and escalate. If LMR, build rapport, plus touch, innuendo, and chase frames.

 

[KJ Francis]

Sixty

• A1
  • Opening is a social screening process that builds momentum and requires multiple rejections
  • Focus on proximity. Get her to look at you first. Handshake hold opening, lingering silence.
  • "How's your night going?" (or "How's this place been so far tonight?")
  • "What brings you out tonight?" (or "What are you celebrating?")
• A2
  • Get close to build tension and screen. Kino escalation (from hand). Be unreactive to resistance.
  • Hold deadpan face contact, seductive smirk, and visualize kissing. Allow silent tension.
• A3
  • "What are you passionate about?"
  • Rapid physical escalation
  • Statement of Intention as a screen

 

[KJ Francis]

A New Take on Mystery’s Group Theory for Meeting Girls in Groups

Group Theory came to the seduction world via the Mystery Method. Here I challenge some of its underlying mechanisms and give my own take on picking up girls in groups. Guys learning pickup and seduction often find that pulling a girl from a group can be a bit challenging. How do you take a girl...

www.girlschase.com

Do not break rapport (Sixty) by removing negs except teasing


Maintain indirect game by withholding verbal interest until she shows it (end A2, start A3). Still avoid telegraphing interest too soon before she's earned it, but avoid auto-rejection from low attainability by calibrating the milking of handclasp opener as a compliance test to gauge interest, and tease within 30 seconds.


Q1: DHV to group (leadership, emoting, protector, successful risktaker) more powerful than to target?


Q2: How to easily/reliably/consistently convey significant preselection verbally? Otherwise group passively displays preselection DHV.


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These are the gambits I plan to review, which are primarily the lightest in explicitness. I may select a few to insert in the M3 structure to set some second generation frames as outlined below. I may also use them as inspiration for revisions to set the same frames more covertly if possible, so the structure can serve as an all-time game default mode for any situation, including crowded coffee shops with eavesdroppers, etc. This may be a lifelong journey to learn covert, calibrated sub-communication of frames.

Gambits sticky:

STICKIED: Sex Talk Gambits Compilation (And more)

Hey guys. So this is a compilation of my sex-talk gambits. I write this primarily because I sometimes forget some of the great gambits myself. I have been doing sex talk since late 2008 and trust me, using the same material over and over does get old. So what happens is that I will change my...

www.skilledseducer.com

Fractionate within M3. Frames to set:

• Nonjudgmental about promiscuity and speed of seduction
  • A3: female-submission
  • Explicit: Either A2 or C phase? Incorporate Madonna/whore and discretion for her social safety. goodbad-sex-sex-unfair-and-dark-side
  • Explicit? womens-sexual-subjectification
  • Explicit: sex-therapist
• Prizing
  • Short version? sexual-frustration
  • C1? self-control-sexy
  • C phase? Somewhat bold: gambit-narratives
• Comfort and trust (including non-neediness, non-pushiness, and physical safety).
  • C1? making-girl-trust-feel-comfortable

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• ASD section:
  • being-sexually-liberated-guy
  • how-have-discreet-sex-and-communicate-discretion
  • pacing-and-leading-girl-date-or-bed
  • A3 screening? Or C phase? Mix with unfairness gambit? purity-gambit
• Advanced:
  • A3 beginning? "Who are you" transition: mirror
  • Explicit: secret-house
• Other techniques:
  • A3 qualification, Second and Third scenario: make-yourself-sexual-prize-showing-her-your-sexual-standards
  • Somewhat bold: attract-her-harder-nlp-contrast-technique
  • A3, screen her openness, frame against jealousy. Somewhat bold: how-use-sexual-qualification-prime-women-sex
• A3 combined with Takeaway? Whisper in ear. Bold: femme-fatale

 

[KJ Francis]

Whoa, I am honored for the sticky status. I may report this as KJ. Here is a combo process. I think it's consistent with SAC reverse order pings, with compliance test first (handclasp), arousal (teasing), then similarity (screening/qualifying). It does not cover calibration of elements, speed, and intensity, as that depends on the girl's SAC response, pace, and who is fingering the flip book.

• A1
  • Opening is a social screening process that can require multiple rejections to builds momentum, social proof, and required preselection for later
  • Look for proximity and eye contact. Get her to look at you first. Otherwise 3-Second Rule, energy level slightly higher
  • Face away as if leaving, open over shoulder. If moving, walk same trajectory, slightly in front
  • False Time Constraint if possible. Open group, indirect. Situationally relevant opener if possible. If moving, genuine compliment (fashion, hair, energy, walk).
    • "You are having way too much fun over here."
    • "You can't look at me like that and not say hi."
    • "How's your day/night going?", or "How's this place been so far tonight?"
    • "What brings you out tonight?", or "What are you celebrating?"
  • Handclasp opening with name introductions, to gauge interest with lingering silence until she releases
  • End A1: Social hook point

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• A2
  • Banter about her or situation (with rich sensory and emotional descriptions if possible). Cold Read.
  • Tease within first 30 seconds and continually throughout to set clear sexual frame (and chase frame if possible). Telegraph disinterest with false disqualifiers (wouldn't work out; she is too nice)
  • If group, "So how do you all know each other?"
  • DHV (to rest of group if possible): preselection, leader, protector, emoting, successful risk-taker
  • Nonverbal:
    • Hold deadpan face contact, seductive smirk, and visualize kissing. Get close and allow silent tension. Kino escalation (from hand). Be unreactive to resistance.
    • Two minutes in: move her if possible (especially if solo), with protective touch (depending on comfort: back of arm, upper back, lower back)
    • Lock in (lean against something with girl facing) sometime during A2
  • Compliance Test, then give IOI, then IOD. If no compliance, give IOD, then DHV, then retest
  • End A2: receive IOIs

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• A3
  • Inquire current plans, explore logistics during A3
  • Screening (passions, if you could be anything, best qualities, school, growing up)
  • Kino escalation, then push away. Use Takeaways
    • Three minutes in: forearm touch during a tease. (Repeat every five minutes throughout, escalating up arm, down to waist)
  • Compliance Test, then give IOI, then IOD. If no compliance, give IOD, then DHV, then retest
    • Touch and verbalize inspecting jewelry, clothing, etc.
  • Qualifiers, IOI, then IOD. Statement of Interest. Compliment style/energy/poise, behavior
  • End A3: Bait her DHV, reward, repeat. Early Time Bridge if time constrained, or quick pull.

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• C1
  • Five to ten minutes in: move to seating with hand on lower back if close, or linked arms/hand if far. Sit with legs touching. Put arm around and pull her in if needed, then remove arm.
  • Only IOD used in C1 is freeze-out
  • Deep dive
    • Start deep dive into motivations, rapport building. Ask questions with lingering touch (five seconds). Hand on thigh (20 seconds) during her deep disclosure
    • Chase framed tease and touch, interspersed every four to eight minutes during deep dive.
    • Elicit values, then passively show attitude similarity
  • Seed the pull on a high note during C1
  • Rich description of emotions experienced from her favorite activity in ideal setting
  • Vulnerable grounding story from childhood to current identity
  • Look for escalation windows. Otherwise pull after 90-120 minutes. Leave with linked arms/hand, lightly flirting/teasing.
  • End C1: Bounce or Time Bridge

Gambits to possibly incorporate:

• A2
  • "Unfair" section. Incorporate Madonna/whore and discretion for her social safety. 3 Sex Gambits: Good/Bad Sex, Sex is Unfair, and the Dark Side
  • End of A2. "Who are you" transition: The Mirror
• A3
  • Sex Talk Gambit: Female Submission
  • Screen her openness, frame against jealousy (@Karea Ricardus D. post). Somewhat bold: How to Use Sexual Qualification to Prime Women for Sex
  • Second and Third scenario: Make Yourself the Sexual Prize by Showing Her Your Sexual Standards
  • Combine with Takeaway. Whisper in ear. Bold: Pickup and Seduction Gambit: The Femme Fatale
  • A3 screening? Or C phase? Mix with unfairness gambit? The Purity Gambit: Open Up Sexual Topics in a Surprising Way
• C Phase
  • C1? Making a Girl Trust & Feel Comfortable with You (Seduction Gambit)
  • Short version? Pickup and Seduction Gambit: Sexual Frustration
  • C phase? Somewhat bold: Pickup and Seduction Gambit: Narratives

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Nice stuff. These are one of my favourite kinds of threads


Totally proves the point that different seduction models can be properly combined and mixed together. Still needs a bit more polishing and organising tho.... but a great start


This is for a night game I suppose but I can see it working for DG with adequate tweaks

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

This is really good stuff.
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Analyzing the different styles/schools of seduction with a common timeline is great idea.