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Pushy people/People needs to feel negative once in a while

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Cro-Magnon Man
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Hi Guys,

I thought i wanted to ask about a certain matter during my time in National Service. Chase, do help clarify, but if you guys have been in a place of a really negative environment, do put something.

National Service wasn't really a fun time, nevertheless the experience makes me learn a lot of things and people really step on each other to get to the top, even in uniform groups services. This usually happens with all the Lieutenants and Majors purposely looking for the the other Lieutenant platoon errors, along with Sergeants and below having this regular problems, but those on the top like Commanders, Lieutenant Colonel's and Colonel's and the Commissioner office rarely have this things, at least that's what i know of.

The matter is about pushy people, and negativity in general.

Handling pushy people can be seriously annoying, i tell you. and the nature of negative vibe in the service wasn't really appealing but two years stuck there and i have to make the best out of it. There's an excerpt that Chase wrote that you have to address a problem or a matter if it ever pops, i mean that's what he wrote somewhere along the lines. Well my school of thought is that unless it is really necessary and it is very rude, you will usually just brush it off, like what Chase mention in his 5 ways to answer Social Challenges. And i brush aside much, and i have rule of three counts, to actually address the problem only when it persist. It works for me, and today, whenever my friends and my family have this sudden jab of negativity (not exactly at me but at something), i just let a few seconds past after that sentence and things are often back to normal again. Just like women mentioning about being neutral and emphatic or laugh it off for women if she mention problems or her relationship suck, this is all relative though. For it to work, you also need to have this open vibe where people can talk to you about anything, but i still need clarification if we can do it better.

I feel that people needs to feel negativity, maybe a little and it's important, and that's why not addressing the problem, and let it evolve just a slight bit, so you can know where it's going and cut it at the heart of the problem. It also makes you accept people as they are, let them be.

The neutral vibe is so fucking important. OMG, gotta to love what Chase mention that.

Do give me your thoughts, Appreciate if one has gone to a really negative place before, and oh you can't really tell people some things there, it's like you have to cover your a$$ smartly. I am not saying everyone is not trustworthy, i needed to have time to evaluate but the environment evokes such emotions.

Zac
 

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Re: Pushy people/People needs to feel negative once in a whi

Hey Zac,

I can understand your frustration. I've lived my whole life being raised by a very negative father. I also had a very negative best friend. Long story short, I had to cut him away from my life, and now we have nothing more than just mutual respect for each other - the usual hi and bye, and chit chat on the surface level. Unfortunately, you cannot always cut certain people away from your life, not to mention they will keep popping up.

I've learnt the best way to shrug it off is with a smile :)

Whenever negativity rises around you..? - Just smile... and let the wind carry it away.

If someone gets pushy with me, I smile, and with a polite "No Thank you."
 
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Re: Pushy people/People needs to feel negative once in a whi

Zac-

There are some environments that are just poisoned places filled with negative people and you can't change them. They just are the way they are. Typically, the more people are a certain way, the harder it is to combat.

Like, in a relationship, it's annoying but manageable to deal with a girl being negative - you can call her out on it, correct it, get to the root, and be done with it.

Grab a couple of your friends and have them being negative, and it's a bit more difficult.

Get four or five friends, and it's damn near impossible. Start trying to call them out and tell them this is bullshit, and unless one of them swings over to your side and says, "Yeah... this IS bullshit!" they're all going to tell you you're being unrealistic and that they're acting this way because it IS a negative situation.

Get into National Service, where it's ingrained in the culture, and you're stuck.

The only real solution is to keep your head down, fill your life outside of the problem area with positive influences and things that help you recover your energy (movies, friends, girls, video games, exercise, hobbies, martial arts, music, a personal project, whatever), and work hard to get out of the negative environment and leave it in your dust as soon as you can.

Chase
 

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Re: Pushy people/People needs to feel negative once in a whi

Light said:
I can understand your frustration. I've lived my whole life being raised by a very negative father. I also had a very negative best friend. Long story short, I had to cut him away from my life, and now we have nothing more than just mutual respect for each other - the usual hi and bye, and chit chat on the surface level. Unfortunately, you cannot always cut certain people away from your life, not to mention they will keep popping up.

I've learnt the best way to shrug it off is with a smile :)

Whenever negativity rises around you..? - Just smile... and let the wind carry it away.

If someone gets pushy with me, I smile, and with a polite "No Thank you."

I have a negative dad too, man. I also had a negative best friend. I cut my friend away, and my dad, i don't see him often. Like you said, the usual hi and bye, simple handshake and i am gone.

Chase said:
The only real solution is to keep your head down, fill your life outside of the problem area with positive influences and things that help you recover your energy (movies, friends, girls, video games, exercise, hobbies, martial arts, music, a personal project, whatever), and work hard to get out of the negative environment and leave it in your dust as soon as you can.

I did, and it helps. Guess not every place you can put yourself in a good situation. Appreciate the environment.

Thanks,
Zac
 
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