Questions about Chase's book

[Samson84]

Hi guys

As a beginner I have bought Chase's book How To Make Girls Chase (and One Date but I haven't started that yet).

First: wow. If this material is all true, this is a godsend, like a bible of how to get the women you want and not repeat all your confusing painful fuckups forever. Thank you!

Most of the material is completely new to me. A few things I can look at and say, yeah I was doing that right. But mostly, not.

Anyway I have some questions on the material.

1. Pre opening. It sounds pretty weird to suggest that you go up to a woman and tap her on the arm without looking at her. Isn't she likely to pull back or say "hey wtf"? I can't really visualize this. Are there any approach videos to watch?

2. Compliments. During a direct opener, a sincere compliment of her looks /style is suggested. Does this work also for hot/beautiful women who get men chasing them all the time? How about at other times ? E.g. if you're on a date and you're totally intoxicated with her looks, would you ever say, "wow you look so hot i can't take my eyes off you"? On p.215 it says only to compliment her looks in a very nonchalant way.

3. Law of least effort. Mating rituals seem to be a relevant exception that isn't covered. E.g. dancing. Everyone loves a guy who can dance and indeed larger than necessary gestures show confidence, taking up too much space, etc. These high energy behaviours are alpha characteristics in social situations that seem to conflict with miniziming effort.

4. Many women think they want a man who chases. I had a woman once ditch me when I contacted her a week after we had oral sex simply because I had not contacted her sooner. Another auto rejected because she was expecting for me to ask for exclusivity and I never did. She would never initiate more than 50% of contact because she "wasn't going to chase". How does one make sense of this and fix it?

5. Can attainability be increased by seeming more keen/ excited to be around someone? How do you let a girl know you she can "get you" eventually?

Thanks!

 

[Samson84]

6. Many of the dialogues have the guy sounding like a total douche. E.g. the story about the sexual abuse. How would this make the listener feel if she also was a victim or was close to someone who was? Isn't it kinda stupid to go on to generalize all online chicks as crazy? That's virtually everyone. A smart girl would surely call this out as bullshit. Also in the section about screening and qualifying. There's one where the girl just completely changes her approach about her mum's crazy behaviour and the guy rewards her for such. But wait, doesn't this just show that she's full of shit, or pretty immature, or whatever? If he rewards that it doesn't seem genuine.

 

[Seppuku]

Hey Samson,

First: wow. If this material is all true, this is a godsend, like a bible of how to get the women you want and not repeat all your confusing painful fuckups forever. Thank you!

Many of us here have learned all this from scratch by reading this material, and managed to make it work fairly well, so, yes, we can attest this material is true. It will *not* guarantee you can get that precise woman you have views on at the moment - there is never any guarantee of that. It will guarantee, however, that if you don't succeed with this or that woman, there's another one soon on which it will work. We all have some failure rate. But our success rate is also much, much higher compared to the average man. Most of the guys at Rank 2 or 3 here are able to pull somewhere like 8 to 12 new girls a year - at least - and sometimes more than one per week.

2. Compliments. During a direct opener, a sincere compliment of her looks /style is suggested. Does this work also for hot/beautiful women who get men chasing them all the time? How about at other times ? E.g. if you're on a date and you're totally intoxicated with her looks, would you ever say, "wow you look so hot i can't take my eyes off you"? On p.215 it says only to compliment her looks in a very nonchalant way.

The average beautiful girl is bombarded with standard, empty comments like "you're sooo hooooot" all the times. Absolutely no substance, no originality. You want to avoid this. She will say thank you mechanically then will categorize you as "another one of these lame guys" then forget about you. What you want is to stand out. "You have this adorable look about you". I personally like to comment on her clothes and style "the blue color suits you very well", and comment about some part of her style that I like. It sounds genuine and customized to her, and not some pre-made empty BS that she is served all the time.

Also. If you're intoxicated by her look, you want to avoid showing it. The beautiful girl wants a guy who is absolutely unfazed by her beauty and stays in control at all times. It will show her that (i) her beauty is business as usual for him, so he must be experienced with woman (a huge plus), and (ii) he will be able to handle her.

4. Many women think they want a man who chases. I had a woman once ditch me when I contacted her a week after we had oral sex simply because I had not contacted her sooner. Another auto rejected because she was expecting for me to ask for exclusivity and I never did. She would never initiate more than 50% of contact because she "wasn't going to chase". How does one make sense of this and fix it?

The first one wanted to frame you as chaser in order to have the higher ground. She was deliberately waiting for you to text first, and when you didn't, she went nuts. If you had texted her first, you could have avoided that, however you would set yourself as the chaser in the relationship, which is not good. I, personally, usually like to make the girl chase for a relationship after we had sex. I frequently refrain from texting first and wait for her to revert to me. I lose a few girls this way. But with those who stay around, the frame is she's the one who is (slighty) chasing. Much better position to be in. And much better to keep her attraction to you.

If you're really concerned she might autoreject because you seem aloof, you can always send a little text just right after initial meeting "it was an enjoyable evening! Nice meeting you" or whatever - within an hour of leaving her. Now you've sent a text and you're not the cold asshole - good boy. Great. And now she must chase you for more.

5. Can attainability be increased by seeming more keen/ excited to be around someone? How do you let a girl know you she can "get you" eventually?

With Attainability, there is a very thin balance to strike. Too much attainable means she knows she can get you easily and there is no challenge. Pussy doesn't get wet. Not enough attainable is this aloof asshole that she thinks she can never have a serious shot at. By shot, we mean sex AND more than sex. She will protect her ego by rationalizing that this guy is not such a great man after all (blame on him), and turn cold on him.

The guys usually do not realize how an easy book they are to read. You don't need to be too keen or too excited, because she will normally read you very well without that. In fact, being too keen / excited will put you deeply into the "too much attainable" category. To be avoided.

It is the opposite that you need to do. You want to display some interest (for instance, by asking questions about her, or by teasing her, or by touching her), but at the same time try to keep a poker face and keep her guessing. You smile to reward her of good behavior, and when you smile you use the "slow smile", which is a half smile, a hint of a smile which says "I know more than you might think". That mix creates sexual tension. "Does he like me?". Much, much better. Pussy gets very wet.

However, once you created tension, you cannot let her go back home alone. You need to release the tension in the same evening by introducing your friend Mr Dick inside her. So you better have your logistics ready... In my first year I lost countless dates (suddenly gone cold) by ignoring that.

Seppuku