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The setting
Am visiting NCY for the second time, for two weeks! Interestingly enough the things that were working before stopped being effective, so it took me a week to readjust and find out what works best here instead.
The approach
Walking through dark and wet NYC with @Skippy and @Kvothe , I run off to go approach a cute lighter-skinned black girl with nice body. Open with a comment on her walk, how she feels very confident. Interestingly enough Gunwitch area opener has not been working well at all here, and rather cold reads turn out to be much better. This is first time I encounter this because usually it is my standard opener that has gotten me laid a lot.
She has headphones on that she takes off, and says she’s on her way home after work but taking a walk. Riff a bit on her answers and how walking at night can feel very relaxing, and slightly on her answers of golden question of what she enjoys doing when she has time for herself. She said she was getting into knitting and something else. I time-constrain and close, seeding for a further meet.
The Date
We originally set for Saturday but she ended up texting me in the morning saying she had thrown up and would be better to reschedule. She offers me Tuesday or weekend, and I say Tuesday.
Then I kind of forget to set an actual time, and on Monday around midnight she texts me asking what time we should meet. I set it for 6pm. Set for a place recommended by Kvothe and 2minutes away.
Due to the learnings from the date the day before, realized I would riff off of superficial talk and not really getting deep to her. So for this date, my focus was on getting her real deep feelings and thoughts on a topic or SOT, and then riffing off of this and linking it to the traits I want and linking it to us. “Feeling this connection right now,…” and so on.
We meet, and she is not giving me much, so I ping off a few topics and stories until I get a hit at how she used to be shy. Expresses how she is more expressive now but also is looking for people who would appreciate who she was even back when she was shy.
Talk about how you show different sides to different people, and some people you can show every side: Happy side, adventurous side, sensual side…
Then soon go into how good connection leads to best sex. Also in end go “Oh because was having this discussion with friends recently”. Which she accepts. This was a really strong frame because it persisted for the entire interaction and in end she even mentioned how it was true.
One thing I noticed quickly was her recurring themes of **independence**. She wanted her own room growing up for having her space; she started knitting again now despite it being something she has been exposed to through her mom who is the industry apparently. And did not want to start again and just be influenced by her, but only doing it when she can do her own style. She says how she doesn’t want to knit by designs or concepts but rather, the feeling of fluffy yarn or soft warn and create something by the feeling. Now she said it differently and more roundabout way but this is what I picked up from it and told her, which she deeply agreed with.
I did a challenge and opportunity on how independent people can take their owm decisions for what they want and what’s right for them, no matter what others say.
I seed chocolate as my pull prop and suggest the pull soon after. She agrees, but then looks at the menu and says she could go for another drink. I say how I have drinks at mine, and says, “Oh, perfect!”
We grab our umbrellas, she pays for her drink, and then we walk outside and back to Kvothe’s place that is 2minutes away. Simply incredible. Absolute brother to let me pull to his place, he may take it for granted but I would never! Pull came after almost exactly 1 hour.
Once there, there is no chocolate or drinks - I notice how the vibe is on and then get closer, she turns away slightly so I turn away more, but then within a minute got the vibe even stronger with speaking slowly and obvious intensity, and she gives me the trance smile so I go and kiss her.
From here, no LMR, smooth sailing, and we in fact have great sex for almost 2 hours. I was feeling so pent up from the past week and the maca I’ve been taking that it felt extremely releasing to be able to get success again and let loose.
When I ask her later when she first knew she wanted to sleep with me, she says that only when I suggested a place to meet it became real. Furthermore, the topics we talked about when I had approached her made her think that if I have intensity and depth for these “everyday” topics, I would be good in bed… and in fact she almost didn’t stop when I approached her, but is extremely happy she did. She also said how she felt we connected so well and it did indeed lead to great sex… which really opened my eyes as to how the exact frame I wanted to set and link worked exactly as planned, and powerfully so.
Learnings
It must be mentioned that most of this tech comes from Bacchus, been going over and rereading his SOT and technique posts, and has helped a lot with my game!
What I did well
- Focus on her
- Riff on actually deep for her topics and pace her reality
- Linking it to me
- Noticing her deeper thoughts and expressions
- Introduce sex frame and link to me
What I can improve
- Better escalation tech - I am reliant on her being kind of down already to be honest, and will just manhandle kiss her essentially if on fence. Surely there is a better escalation process with verbals and nonverbals to be done. But is also dependent on location and in new location have no real precedence.
- Remember what drinks to make - I had said we have drinks but actually I forgot how to mix it. Remember it!! Hahahaha
- Smoother start perhaps, was fine but surely can be smoother here
Outlook
Overall she probably had come out with the possibility of sex, and me doing a good job made her really sure. Now I have to do this more consistently and equally calibrated to each girl.
Onwards!
-Dev
Am visiting NCY for the second time, for two weeks! Interestingly enough the things that were working before stopped being effective, so it took me a week to readjust and find out what works best here instead.
The approach
Walking through dark and wet NYC with @Skippy and @Kvothe , I run off to go approach a cute lighter-skinned black girl with nice body. Open with a comment on her walk, how she feels very confident. Interestingly enough Gunwitch area opener has not been working well at all here, and rather cold reads turn out to be much better. This is first time I encounter this because usually it is my standard opener that has gotten me laid a lot.
She has headphones on that she takes off, and says she’s on her way home after work but taking a walk. Riff a bit on her answers and how walking at night can feel very relaxing, and slightly on her answers of golden question of what she enjoys doing when she has time for herself. She said she was getting into knitting and something else. I time-constrain and close, seeding for a further meet.
The Date
We originally set for Saturday but she ended up texting me in the morning saying she had thrown up and would be better to reschedule. She offers me Tuesday or weekend, and I say Tuesday.
Then I kind of forget to set an actual time, and on Monday around midnight she texts me asking what time we should meet. I set it for 6pm. Set for a place recommended by Kvothe and 2minutes away.
Due to the learnings from the date the day before, realized I would riff off of superficial talk and not really getting deep to her. So for this date, my focus was on getting her real deep feelings and thoughts on a topic or SOT, and then riffing off of this and linking it to the traits I want and linking it to us. “Feeling this connection right now,…” and so on.
We meet, and she is not giving me much, so I ping off a few topics and stories until I get a hit at how she used to be shy. Expresses how she is more expressive now but also is looking for people who would appreciate who she was even back when she was shy.
Talk about how you show different sides to different people, and some people you can show every side: Happy side, adventurous side, sensual side…
Then soon go into how good connection leads to best sex. Also in end go “Oh because was having this discussion with friends recently”. Which she accepts. This was a really strong frame because it persisted for the entire interaction and in end she even mentioned how it was true.
One thing I noticed quickly was her recurring themes of **independence**. She wanted her own room growing up for having her space; she started knitting again now despite it being something she has been exposed to through her mom who is the industry apparently. And did not want to start again and just be influenced by her, but only doing it when she can do her own style. She says how she doesn’t want to knit by designs or concepts but rather, the feeling of fluffy yarn or soft warn and create something by the feeling. Now she said it differently and more roundabout way but this is what I picked up from it and told her, which she deeply agreed with.
I did a challenge and opportunity on how independent people can take their owm decisions for what they want and what’s right for them, no matter what others say.
I seed chocolate as my pull prop and suggest the pull soon after. She agrees, but then looks at the menu and says she could go for another drink. I say how I have drinks at mine, and says, “Oh, perfect!”
We grab our umbrellas, she pays for her drink, and then we walk outside and back to Kvothe’s place that is 2minutes away. Simply incredible. Absolute brother to let me pull to his place, he may take it for granted but I would never! Pull came after almost exactly 1 hour.
Once there, there is no chocolate or drinks - I notice how the vibe is on and then get closer, she turns away slightly so I turn away more, but then within a minute got the vibe even stronger with speaking slowly and obvious intensity, and she gives me the trance smile so I go and kiss her.
From here, no LMR, smooth sailing, and we in fact have great sex for almost 2 hours. I was feeling so pent up from the past week and the maca I’ve been taking that it felt extremely releasing to be able to get success again and let loose.
When I ask her later when she first knew she wanted to sleep with me, she says that only when I suggested a place to meet it became real. Furthermore, the topics we talked about when I had approached her made her think that if I have intensity and depth for these “everyday” topics, I would be good in bed… and in fact she almost didn’t stop when I approached her, but is extremely happy she did. She also said how she felt we connected so well and it did indeed lead to great sex… which really opened my eyes as to how the exact frame I wanted to set and link worked exactly as planned, and powerfully so.
Learnings
It must be mentioned that most of this tech comes from Bacchus, been going over and rereading his SOT and technique posts, and has helped a lot with my game!
What I did well
- Focus on her
- Riff on actually deep for her topics and pace her reality
- Linking it to me
- Noticing her deeper thoughts and expressions
- Introduce sex frame and link to me
What I can improve
- Better escalation tech - I am reliant on her being kind of down already to be honest, and will just manhandle kiss her essentially if on fence. Surely there is a better escalation process with verbals and nonverbals to be done. But is also dependent on location and in new location have no real precedence.
- Remember what drinks to make - I had said we have drinks but actually I forgot how to mix it. Remember it!! Hahahaha
- Smoother start perhaps, was fine but surely can be smoother here
Outlook
Overall she probably had come out with the possibility of sex, and me doing a good job made her really sure. Now I have to do this more consistently and equally calibrated to each girl.
Onwards!
-Dev
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