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Raqimus

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Hey guys this is Raqimus, I really want to start improving and what better way than to tackle the newbie assignment. I was getting big headed recently and this kinda put me back in my place I can approach a girl if I get a sign usually a hairflip, thats the sign i use to appraoch and im trying to figure out what signs I'm missing as i go about my day. So here is Day one. Please feel free to comment and answer the occasional questions scattered in. :)
Day One
So today I finalized my route to take, its high traffic at certain points and it brings me across the types of people i'd like to meet. The start of the route is gonna be different depending on where i get off the train. Usual route brings me past college students( the more normal less artsy kind), the next section is more into fenway and around berkley so its a mix between normal and artsy. Then I try to hit the pru to check out the shops and the women browsing and then i hit newbery street where all the fashionistas and many high quality girls go to shop. Then i swing back in towards fenway taking a different route and if I feel like it i may head down towards BU's campus.

My ego said okay ill observe and make some approaches I got this, but when time came to it, I froze up and out. So i said okay fuck ill just observe. So i'm dressed quite nicely today i'll add a picture so i can try to gauge where my attainability is at on different days and see if i can find some trends to hown the girls react. I start halfway through the route at the prudential and just walk throughout the building with my shades on trying to work on my walk and just look at the people around me. Everyone seems to have good posture back straight etc, only one guy i noticed actually had some fucking swag in his step everyone else was bland. Oh and maaaad cute shop girls, gotta head to those places again ;). Also while walking through the mall i notice i feel anxious which is kinda odd but it goes away once i hit the street. I head to newbery and see some fineeee fucking girls one the way there and along the strip like naturally beautiful girls not alot of makeup. I'm well dressed and i've always been told i was handsome but i never believed it till i worked out my depression a couple months back.

(All people walking towards me)
So with the shades on I notice a few things happening. When I walk by a beautiful girl she would keep her head straight like good posture, wouldnt glance or look at me, and would have a neutral face... maybe neutral negative like kinda a frown maybe but not exactly(saw a stunning middle eastern girl with blue hair and hips too fucking nice i could tell she had a nice ass, she was one that did the frown and there was a blonde too that was crossing the street). I got no signs or maybe these are signs and i'm just missing them, what do you guys think? Next up is just other person they would either look down and not look at me at all, or they would turn their head in my direction before we crossed each others paths and never look at me,or they also kept their head straight, or they would look in the opposite direction away from me. One girl looked in my direction and pulled her shirt out of the way a bit to reveal a bra strap i found that kinda interesting hahaha. I feel like alot of the girls were afraid of checking me out i noticed a lesbian dinning with her partner checking me out as i walked past. I didnt get many approach invitations or maybe i just dont know what they look like...

Next up i decided to experiment and take off the shades and what do you know more women openly glancing at me and making eye contact. One girl glanced at me twice i decided to look at her and smile and she frowned, that shit was hilarious and i started laughing. There were similar behaviors with the way they would look away and towards but i find alot of girls were holding their heads up and straight more while glancing. Could that mean they want to talk to me? I also saw alot more overt displays like the hair flips and i could see girls doing the hair flips after i walked past em outa the corner of my eye. That's really all i got and i feel like i was alot less anxious walking towards fenway than i was when i was at newbery.
Over the next few days of the newbie assignment I'm gonna try to follow it and approach a mix of girls doing the different behaviors described but if anyone could tell me what any of them mean or atleast what they think it means it would be greatly appreciated. I'm always tryin to figure this stuff out.
Thanks for reading
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Raqimus

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Re: Raqimus's Newbie Assignment

Day Three
Hey guys so i decided to skip day two since, I've been constantly working on my posture and my walk, I'm always aware of that shit hahaha so skipping day two we are on day three.
I didnt get to run the full circuit because i completed the 10 before that and I had some things to do, been pretty fucking busy with schoolwork. Oh I also did this on a friday i believe it was a couple of days ago but i'm gonna try to remember everything. I know chase said that you should let the girl look at you and i've been trying that and not getting much or maybe not noticing so I decided to forgo that and just look first because i need the experence approaching and making eye contact with strangers.
First Person: Asian college dude
Guy looked a bit nerdy made eye contact for a second and he just slid his eyes back straight ahead after i smiled and noded, I found it fucking hilarious cause he looked like one of those memes. The one with the fat little black kid that was caught staring.
Next as i was walking coming up on a hispanic dude bout the same age and really muscled out. I didnt look at him because i didnt want him to think i was gay( this is a problem I've had growing up due to an effiminate appearence and balance of masculine and feminine traits, my mom really killed my self esteem as a child, and i've been working on it, my walk is masculine so i dont know why i thought that, i guess old habits die hard eh?)
Don't remember the rest of the people but people usually averted their eyes downwards and shuffled along or smiled back at me and then kept moving forwards. I think because i was making sexy smiles instead of friendly smiles, maybe i came off differently I have to experiment with that. On the upside there was one girl i saw standing on an island and i looked at her and smiled a sexy smile and i caught her eyes and glanced away she did a preening gesture and i kept walking. She crossed the street and hustled and caught up with men and i caught a hair flip outa the corner of my eye and just approached on a busy street.
I tapped her forearm cause she caught up to me and kept pace and said hey i know this is random but your cute and maybe here i waited too long to say something else because she said okaaay? like in a bitchy confused way, then i said I'm Raqimus you? She said I'm olivia and then after she started looking around and i was gonna say something about the way she said okay but then she just stopped and i decided to keep walking. After a couple of seconds I started dying laughing because i just found it hilarious, maybe i should of opened her direct instead with are you single? Oh and before that another girl smiled at me and dropped her eyes.
From this i realize i dont really feel too comfortable making a lot of eye contact with men but women i feel very comfortable making eye contact with.
 

ray_zorse

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Re: Raqimus's Newbie Assignment

Nice work brother, when they are OK to give their name you are doing it at least 90% right so props to u, I am sure u can work on your smoothness/conversation from there with no trouble whatsoever. And when I was 21 I looked like a teenage girl so know what u mean hahaha.
cheers, Ray
 

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Thanks man I appreciate it and I'm glad someone can relate hahaha
 

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Today wasn't really that eventful. I tried to do Day 4 of my newbie assignment, and I only managed one. She was staring as we were walking past each other and I just said hi. I think largely it was because of the way i was dressed because I've noticed something strange whenever I wear a nice fitting dress shirt, girls would glance and immediately look away. Now this happens normaly but even more so, i feel like i get too much attention when i dress up nicely and I become anxious and I have a tendency to look around a bit too much, its just too much attention. Anyway yea i think my attainability goes down when I dress up nicely and goes up when i dress down, like one day i had a tank on with some bball shorts and bitch's were just staring lol.
Also I was a dick to a stranger today on a crowded train today. This isn't the dick part but its coming up, so I got on the train immediatley women are staring i stand at the door and look up and there is this older white women, we lock eyes she gives me an eyebrow flash and says well, hello. I wasnt expecting it but i somehow reacted immediatley, i gave her quite the large sexy smile, mouth closed and very broad almost like how i would normally smile but without any teeth. I held her gaze for a couple of seconds and went back to my phone. I keep seeing women looking at me and no anxiety cool, next stop a guy gets on. He's a panhandler and I always see him at ruggles, ive given him money before a long time ago but i didnt any other time because i think i saw him one time and it doesnt seem like he really needs the money or is homeless i dont remember what it was but i decided never to give him anything. Now usually if a stranger makes a request I'm happy to help them out, like i'd let someone use my phone to make a call or give directions etc, strangers usually ask me for help. He asked if he could use my phone to make a call I shake my head no and give him a very broad tight lipped smile. He says i'll use it on speaker and again i shake my head no. Mind you i was the first person he asked for anything on the car and i denied him. Then he goes about trying to get some cash from people and no luck.
Eventually i get the urge to apologize and then i stop and think why should i apologize? I decide not too and maybe i have auditory hallucinations or maybe people are actually saying things quietly and i have good hearing I don't know i've had it for a year or so now but im working on it. Anyway i start hearing something like, but hes the first person he asked and etc. I also notice women are visibly displaying more signs. I now wield social power.
Oh and lastly i grabbed the number of one of my coworkers thats leaving the job. She's a white girl from the south, incredible ass, perky tits, tight body, she also has a bit of a qwirky and awkward personality and I'm almost positive shes a virgin because another coworker told us so a long time ago. Anywho back when she first started i think i asked her out about maybe 2-3 months after she started or something like that and she ended up telling everyone which kinda made methink she was inexpereienced like "omg this hot guy asked me out etc" that way of thinking. I ended up denying it but people knew i had a crush so i decided not to pursue and just talk to other girls. Now its been quite a while maybe a year max? not sure but ive been getting increasing ioi's from the girls at my work starting like a month ago its been crazy, maybe cause i've been working on my fundementals more idk. She's been giving me a lot more and I love her fucking scent, like it just gets me fucking primal. I decide fuck it time to strike, I gotta get her digits and follow the process from there. At work theres no time because i can never isolate.

So after work today i run into her on my break and i call out to her. Hey MM, she stops walking and i start walking towards her cause i'm goin that way anyways but i give her some space to walk to me and she closes the distance, we are very close. She mentions shes on her way to work, and i give her a funny look then glance to the direction of our job, and she says no my other job, oh she seems like shes in a rush but i stand still and keep talking to her I'm getting that fucking number. She says my other job , I'm there from 7 to midnight, i say damn that sucks, she says atleast i can do my hw, and i say yea thats cool. I decide I'm just wasting time and i dont remember what i said before, but i eventually end up saying something like so your leaving the job november right? she says yea, then i said and your still single right then she says yea. I say so how about we get together, grab some coffee or hot chocolate or something and she says we can try. I repeat what she said "we can try?" She says yea, I'm going to be really busy until the end of the semester but we can try to set something up(pretty sure shes doing a masters program). I dont remember what else i said but I hand her my phone and have her put in the digits, she mentions while putting it in that she cant even remember her number it was a nervous thing i think. I could of said oh you don't have to be nervous but i didnt feel like saying much and just gave her a sexy smile instead. She also mentions how shes going to be going home for a month eventually and I said ok, we'll set something up. Then i let her go and head back to work.
Looking back I feel like i should get more physical, i mostly end up approaching girls at work since that's mostly my schedule and touch doesn't go on too much so i don't make much touch but I have to start working it into my seductions, i usually don't start touching till the date to lead her up to more touch. Also my vibe during the number grab was really relaxed, I don't think it was really sexual but it was just casual. So i don't know if i have this or not or what, shes looking for a traditional relationship and I'm looking for some open ones ;), we'll have to see how this goes. On a positive not she responded instantly to my icebreaker a 3 hours later... did i even need an icebreaker? lol
 

Raqimus

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So lets start off with something that happened at work. About a few days ago I think it was Sunday I was flirting with this girl while helping her order something, the voice tone and body language was very flirty but she didnt have much going and i wasnt super attracted so i decided not to get her # oh and her sister came afterwards and kinda messed up the vibe. So later theres this other chick I wanted to approach waiting in line to check out so i pull her to my register and i talk to her. I dove pretty quickly I don't know how but i ended up finding out she was from cali and missed her family and something strange happened well strange i guess for me. She asked me about myself which hasnt happened when talking to a girl in a while, I thought it was on and was gonna pull the trigger but the girl from before got in my line and kinda killed the vibe for me. I felt wrong approaching the girl i really thought i connected with i mean she was my type but i felt like id be crushing that first girls feelings. Why did i care so much? I have no clue so i approached neither of them and i regretted i didnt atleast get to ask out the chick i connected with. I've resolved to pull the trigger faster in interactions not wait until the end. I also realized afterwards i could of just asked the chick to hang out a sec while i rang out the girl i flirted with at the start. I could of used that to screen and see if she would comply and knew it was on from there. I'll remember that for next time!

Also i've been making an effort to leave the house for atleast two hours on days where i dont have to work, isntead of just staying at home and doing nothing I want to get better with girls and consistently fuck high quality women. So yea today i decided to leave the house and go to back bay and hit wendy's then just walk around and approach from there. I realized while scoping for girls as of right now I cant approach in very high volume areas i just stay in my head and dont approach. As soon as i left the high volume area I noticed a girl and wanted to approach until i got closer and realized... uhh nah im good lol (wasnt my cup of tea). I tend to make too many excuses for myself instead of actually approaching since I'm used to not taking action outside of work. Also while walking around today I had on clothes that fit my personality i would say, just laid back and simple girls would look at me, more like glance really then immediately look away, and if i looked back at them they wouldnt look at me. Am I giving off bad vibes or something? If anything I am a brooder and my face naturally broods and I'm not sad its just how my face is. I walk around with a slight smile maybe more like a smirk and I dont think the looks have changed or maybe I'm just not good at noticing them? I've been working on state control by walking around with no headphones on and I'm pretty good at keeping myself in an upbeat kind of mood or atleast keeping myself open. I'm still working on my posture which is fucking excellent but i think my shoulder swag when i walk is a bit too subtle, I'm gonna try to take it up a notch and see what happens, if i get more approach invitations or whatever. Oh and i try to smile at girls when they look at me and either they dont smile or they keep walking or they make some awkward ass face lol, there are some that smile tho. Oh and as i walked by a group of two one glanced then the other did and they stopped talking like she stared at me for a sec or two then darted her eyes forward.

Maybe I'm too intimidating, maybe I'm creepy? I wish I could figure this shit out. Maybe its attainability I don't fucking know. I'm handsome people tell me this but is that whats fucking me up? Of the girls i have approached most usually receive me warmly, only like 1 or two bitchy girls and girls i've approached on the street have also received me warmly except this one time i think i tried to go direct and the girl said "I'm uncomfortable" while staring at me and sped away.... it was fucking hilarious. Thats all thats happened recently gonna try to update more so I dont squeeze all this shit into one big post.

Last time I had sex: January... i think
 

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Hey Raqimus nice journal, nice approaches, keep it up :) something occurred to me on your eye contact / attainability issue which I will try to explain.

The thing is girls won't voluntarily meet your eye except maybe in social circle, they don't want to be caught checking you out so they'll maybe check you out if you appear occupied, and then look away, obviously there are exceptions but this is pretty much the way it goes for me, basically girls are very good at stuff we have to work at, like posture or eye contact discipline or making guys chase, because these are the skills they need to get through the day without being hassled/judged and remaining in control. Guys don't have such issues. And while some girls are outgoing/friendly and will meet your eye on public transport, chat or whatever they are a minority.

So what you have to do is be much more decisive in your approach, if they check you out and look away, then instead of trying to catch their eye and proceeding from there, go over to them and engage them in a way that can't be ignored, maybe not your whole body (too intimidating) but get right next to them and say in a strong voice "hey there" or whatever opener you want to use, if they still don't acknowledge you then say "can you hear me?" or whatever. Because they may test you, but you know they're attracted cos they checked you out, so you can engage them confidently.

So in summary the issue might be your expectations re eye contact. Of course I might have misunderstood what the issue is but I hope that helps :) go get em bro :)

BTW: I think my shoulder swag might be too much, cos recently I was walking in the city and some dude puffed out his chest and strutted across my path to take the piss hahaha well I didn't acknowledge him except with a quizzical glance but I think it indicated I'm doing something right hahaha the walk takes time and practice doesn't it...

Cheers, Ray
 

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ray_zorse said:
Hey Raqimus nice journal, nice approaches, keep it up :) something occurred to me on your eye contact / attainability issue which I will try to explain.

The thing is girls won't voluntarily meet your eye except maybe in social circle, they don't want to be caught checking you out so they'll maybe check you out if you appear occupied, and then look away, obviously there are exceptions but this is pretty much the way it goes for me, basically girls are very good at stuff we have to work at, like posture or eye contact discipline or making guys chase, because these are the skills they need to get through the day without being hassled/judged and remaining in control. Guys don't have such issues. And while some girls are outgoing/friendly and will meet your eye on public transport, chat or whatever they are a minority.

So what you have to do is be much more decisive in your approach, if they check you out and look away, then instead of trying to catch their eye and proceeding from there, go over to them and engage them in a way that can't be ignored, maybe not your whole body (too intimidating) but get right next to them and say in a strong voice "hey there" or whatever opener you want to use, if they still don't acknowledge you then say "can you hear me?" or whatever. Because they may test you, but you know they're attracted cos they checked you out, so you can engage them confidently.

So in summary the issue might be your expectations re eye contact. Of course I might have misunderstood what the issue is but I hope that helps :) go get em bro :)

BTW: I think my shoulder swag might be too much, cos recently I was walking in the city and some dude puffed out his chest and strutted across my path to take the piss hahaha well I didn't acknowledge him except with a quizzical glance but I think it indicated I'm doing something right hahaha the walk takes time and practice doesn't it...

Cheers, Ray
No thanks man I think you hit the nail on the head. I usually approach girls at work so they kind of have to look at me and on the street its a different set of rules, makes alot more sense. I dont usually sit still when i try to day game I'm almost always walking or trying to move, so if i catch a glimpse I'll be more decisive thanks for answering that bro :)
 

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Today, I was a dick, and it wasn't intentional and it seems that I am a dick even when I don't meant to be so i guess its a step up from the niceguy phase. Now I would still consider myself a nice guy but not in the way we use it, i dont supplicate and all that shit etc, I just generally care for people and I have a kind personality but I am a smartass dick...

So there was this asian girl in my store today shes a frequent customer, last week i complimented her style to use her to get back my social momentum when I was feeling shitty (genuine compliment cause I did like her style :) ) Anyway she was in today and i decided i liked her and wanted to fuck her so yea I help her do an order for something the vibe is kinda flirty and sexualish with the tone (even if the vibe gets sexual doesnt mean shit). So after the order i let her finish shopping and as shes passing me on her way to the registers I call out to her ask if shes got a second and shoot my spieel. She wasnt giving me much body language and i said lets exchange numbers etc she said for what i said i wanted to go out with her cause i thought she was cute and use the date to know her or something like that. Now i notice that she breaks eyecontact up very quickly when i mention shes cute and that the vibe kinda shifted, wasnt exactly closed but she was very polite. I felt like she was giving the number out of politeness not out of she wanted me to fuck her brains out. So i ended up saying you know you dont sound like you want to exchange numbers. Then she mentions how she's here for school as in she is only here for school not my dick. Then i say well you would have freetime or something like that and she says maybe. At that point i decided i no longer wanted her number and i tried to shoo her away( could of been a bit more tactful and used this leading thing this girl used on me like a year ago, i didnt even know what fucking hit me she basically showed me the door lmao it was hilarious how she did it and very subltle)

Back to the asian chick I tell her its cool, have a good day meaning I'm done talking peace out, leave, bye bye, get away. She seems really confused and i have a warm tone and facial expression while motioning with my hand that she should leave. She says so what about my number you dont want it or something along those lines and I shake my head and say good day. She was still polite and left. Looking back I should of took the number and never hit her up but i didnt feel like it at that point. I talked to my boy and told him the situation and he says that was kinda mean and rude. I really thought nothing of it but i thought i should apologize maybe i was a bit less tactful.
What do you guys think should I of takin the number? Also would you guys of apologized in that situation. I felt like i needed to afterwards because I was rude maybe she thought nothing of it, i guess thats the nice guy in me still talking.

Oh and theres newbies at my job and its good pickings. One of them got placed in my dept at the end of the day and I knew she liked me because I caught her eye earlier. Also i think they are warned about me and my boy because we do kinda talk to all the girls at the job, in terms of male associates we are at the head and we have a reputation that i think works in our favor. Eitherway I introduce myself to the chick when shes in my dept hold eyecontact and led the hand slide away after the hand shake and i do some basic deep diving nothing heavy. Just what school (guessed she was a sophmore and was correct) why she chose her school could of went more into that but decided not to, where shes from and what kind of girl she is. Oh and she was nervous af, not a this guys a creep more of wow hes hot nervous. She ended up walking away from me at some point in the convo she got really nervous after she mentioned a boyfriend when i dove into what kind of girl she is but I dont think he will be a problem. Basically this girl was into me, she was nervous, and i dominated the fuck out of her, I also switched to a bit more warm, but with sexual undertone kind of vibe.

I've been working on maintaining state which is going swimmingly since i no longer have headphones to wear while i commute and shit, Posture is excelllent, walk is good but i want to fine tune it, voice is good but i still revert back sometimes (I have a very tired sounding voice and I am quite soft spoken so i work to make myself heard). Also bringing a sexual vibe and tension into my interactions.
 

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Hey guys, today was good. Didn't fancy any customers at work so i didnt approach but i was talking to one of the new chicks. I conversated with her for about five minutes, and i ended up diving into the fact that she loves sports and is athletic and loves to snowboard. Also shes a future genetesist and wants to cure huntingtons disease, shes a cool chick anyway I didnt stay too long into the convo and i split. Throughout the night as we were all recovering in a group i just felt like okay she likes me... i think? I havent pushed for compliance i'm gonna do that tomorrow but she doesnt challenge me either.

So onto the bad, we were all leaving and we are downstairs im walking away and the others are going a different way, I'm the only one who walks that way today she said outloud to like everyone how do i get out of here?? but her body was facing me. I didnt even think just said which way are you going? she said kenmore I said come with me. We speak a bit and its mostly bantering i dont remember it and as we were walking i heard footsteps behind us and i didnt look back but instinct told me it was another coworker, so i kept it a bit platonic you know secret lover shit. So we were getting to the dhis spots even sketchier door and she mentions it being sketchy I just say eh, youll get used to it and as I'm getting to the door about to open it i say just wait its even sketchier in here. She says oh wow it is then laughs, we get outside and i say peace and she says bye and thanks me.

Now looking back I realize that was the perfect oportunity to grab her # outside since no one was around and propose a date, I didnt feel the vibe so i didnt but i should of. So I'm mad at that and to make up for it I have to grab her # tomorrow and propose a date, while still being discreet at work so this is gonna be fucking fun, wish me luck guys! Theres still more girls I haven't met that are new and cant wait to try and fuck!
 
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My confidence hasn't been the highest recently, ive been fapping to much and it needs to stop. Was able to approach 2 girls at work today, tried to ask a coworker out and all of them were rejections. Not mad not angry more or less i have more to work on and i'm sabotaging myself. I can approach girls at work no problem but on the street i just let em past, i dont get the anxiety i just dont say anything. Gonna challenge myself not to fap for a week starting today.

First girl was an asian girl, not too into them but i found her cute and sexy. She had purple and red hair and i liked the odditd the sexy tone of voiy. Talked to her had the vibe goin she actually put effort into the convo and started askin me shit. So i was like cool but her eyes weren't doe so i dont think I reached the hook point, I struggle with it and can get it rarely and its by luck if i do. Anyway went for the date and shit after the work part of the interaction ended and she said shed just gotten out of a relationship and doesn't want to hurt me or something like that. My first thought is thats cool I'm not looking for anything serious but i didn't say it because there were other customers around. Maybe I'm coming off to nice or boyfriend ish.

Second girl I helped with a blender and shit. i tried to keep the sexy vibe going all throughout the interaction and it worked but i dont think i ever reached the hook point. i dove a bit and found out a bit. I approached it as a sale and got her to buy this super expensive ninja blender. It's funny when i want to fuck a girl i become a better salesman or i sell better lol. When i went for it she said something like funny you ask or some shit i just started dating someone a week a ago. I left it at that. It was still chill after that.

Then the coworker a very sporty girl and seems cool, i think i missed a window earlier this week to grab her digits but i didnt think about it. She's not cold she was still flirty and we had the sexual vibe goin. I went for compliance before but i fucking poked her ear lmao she was wearing an earing and i fucking poked it lol. Anyway later on she asked to help a customer i said sure i was off the clock but i thought okay heres an opportunity. bantered a bit and since i already dove this girl (found out her dream, why shes doing it, and etc a few days ago i thought i had it).... well i was wrong. I went for it as we were walking I tried a new line don't think im gonna try it again because it's not direct enough for me to get my point across but i thought my body language conveyed it which is why i tried something new. I said I know this is gonna sound random but i find you intriguing or interesting one of the two. she said okay... then i said we should hang out sometime and i left it in the air ( don't know what i was thinking didnt even propose an idea) and she said well... she kinda chuckled and said ill let you know. She wasnt looking while she said it but she had a smile on her face, I naturally shrugged my shoulders and just walked off.

Things to work on:

Gotta learn to consistently hit the hook point
Get more compliance
Establish more touch
Work on my fundamentals, I've let my walk slip and my voice too
I think I'm okay on screening and qualifying but it can be better
Set discrete frames naturally
Stop fapping
 

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Hey guys so recently, Ive been abstaning from whacking it to motivate myself to approach. Today i whacked at about 8 days I'm gonna go longer. I've noticed a self defeating cycle where I go out to approach, and if i fail i go whack off. It's like im rewarding defeat and failure so I'm gonna work on that. Also I've been stalling latly. Whenever I try to approach a girl i get a twinge like a small ping of anxiety and i just dont speak. I'm gonna work on just taking action and say fuck my brain which is a bit tough because i've never been one to take action BUT IM GOING TO FORCE IT.

Goals for the year:
I want to suceed and improve women. My Goal is to try to have three fuck buddies, by writing it here its more concrete. Iost my virginity maybe 2 years ago? or last year time kind of blends for me. I've only slept with one other women since then and that was in January or Feb, only fucked her three times before i bailed because I didnt really like the chick.

Goals for the month: Try to have sex atleast once with a new girl before the years out aka approach women outside of work( I can do it if i hammer and I have to fucking hammer since i'm writing it here). Work on victim mentality issues and negativity.

Weekly/Daily Goals: Maintain Posture, Dominant voice, Sexy Walk, Improve body, and Improve fashion to be more sexy.
 

ray_zorse

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Haha well whacked off this morning since I won't be able to do aany approaching till Monday anyway... but about your AA you need to really get back to basics and build your momentum when you go out
(1) buy shit and flirt with the shop assistants etc
(2) talk to grandma's, fatties, oldies, unattractive women, guys...
(3) sit in a coffee shop with a laptop maybe, scan for IOIs, try to engage ppl in surrounding tables (or if its crowded ask to share someone's table)
(3) find venue, time of day etc that lifts your vibe (I find local shopping centre difficult, I find CBD streets very easy and fun, I like approaching aroumd 2~3pm in good weather, etc)
(4) read the post "there's no such thing as approach anxiety"
(5) be refreshed, have a good sleep before, eat healthy food, don't overdo the caffeine etc
(6) if all else fails or if you are totally anxious and in your head, award yourself a break to just walk around practicing eye contact discipline

I went out yesterday and found it really heavy going, took a number of hours to really get out of my head at all, wasted many approach opportunities, did basically all of the above (except I was a bit tired), kept garnering a little momentum and then feeling it slip away... so angry and frustrated at myself, well you know what, I persisted and eventually started to become self amused and by about 10pm (8hrs later) was enjoying an insta date with a pair of hot young Thai roommates and having other adventures, just persist bro.

cheers, Ray
 

Raqimus

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Thanks Ray, your right I haven't been letting myself build momentum. I can approach shop keepers usually I used to go in and talk to the hired guns and grab numbers etc. I'll start doing that again and takling to random people I don't because i think why am I talking to this person. I like to have a reason for doing something. Yea i feel better if i don't whack off I'm on 8 or 9 days and feeling whole i f that makes sense. no general anxiety so I'm gonna work on approaching with what you said in mind.
 

Raqimus

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Hey it's been a minute. Currently I can approach woman at work but when it comes to approaching women on the street I fucking freeze up. There was a grl who I should of approached today at the train station but I pussied out. I got an approach invitation I mean she made it easy for me but I fucking pussied out. Anyone have any tips I knw its asked a lot I guess I should of just spoke as soon as I saw her come over but I admit... I was afraid. I hate being afraid ughhh.
 

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Gonna try and update this shit again. But I've recently gotten in trouble at my job for approaching a chick so I had a mental shift where I need to get girls on the street, anywhere. I've also realized as long as I workout consistently I'm pretty comfortable approaching girls, or complimenting them. No as I say this i bet the anxiety will come back but its not anxiety more like okay what can I say here to open her up continue the conversation etc. Like Ray told me before I just need to build momentum. Gonna start working on picking up at the gym in the coming weeks to get a feel for the environment etc.
Approached like 2 or 3 girls and complimented like 2 or 3 nd I'm getting used to making sexual openers where I go straight to their figure and stuff.

Keep shooting guys.
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Sup guys, been a while!

Recently I've been cold approaching (outside of my job don't know what you'd consider approaching work to be?) on the streets, in shops whenever the mood strikes. I've been getting rejected quite a bit hahahaha. There was a day I approached 6 girls or I think that was over a two day period and I managed two numbers. My first two numbers from consitently cold approaching. (I've cold approached before on the street and managed to get numbers but it was a spur of the moment type deal where I had to talk to the girl).

I'm enjoying it because I can analyze my mistakes, see where I fuck up and impliment those changes. One thing I noticed rather recently after like 4 or 5 approaches is that my vibe is not sexual more of a friendly lets see where this goes. For me atleast I have to be in a more yo I want to fuck type of state and project that vibe and things go differently. Example:

I was walking up a hill heading home from the gym. Gotten my first number in a while from the streets that day and I was just working on picturing the girls naked. So I was walking behind two girls a white and an asian, I had sunglassess on and I was just foused on tearing the white chicks clothes off and fucking her, she had on leggins and that booty was a cutey. The ASian girl split off and the white girl was still walking up the hill and I was still going in the same direction. Wasn't in the mood to approach but I threw myself into that sexual state which helped because i wasnt going to approach.

She gets to the top of the hill and she can't cross because the lights green and I end up walking beside her. I turn in her direction (never fully looking at her) for a few seconds then turn my head back. She glances at me then goes back to doing what she's doing, then I look again (not at her) and she looks again and plays with her hair.
(Something about just being in a sexual vibe really makes me click)
Me: Hey ( I notice her face and believe she's the most beautiful woman at this moment.I mean she wasn't but it just came to my head)
Me: I Couldn't help but notice how cute you are I'm Raqimus
Her: I'm Jenn ( She was so warm and hooked it was fucking crazy she had her gaurd down and was giving me full attention and I was just relaxed but still sexual, I seem to do better when I'm fully myself which is like super low energy but it's like a warm low energy that can spike and settle if I were to give it a description.)

Me: So are you single?
Her: Yes

THen it was just talking about schools and stuff and seeing where she meant using a bit of humor. Also I used something I learned the day before when I was talking to a girl she made the decision to cross and let me know I felt weak, so I made sure I spoted the opportunity to cross and lead her across. We get across the street we talk and set up a date I get the digits, fucking smooth. She is sooooo into me and as we're bidding each other adou I notice that little thing where your not sure what to do and she goes in for a hug but I also don't know what to do and I'm kinda leaning a bit back. So she catches herself before she does and my dumb ass fucking gives her a nod lmao, I gave her a fucking nod and then we peaced out.

Needless to say she never responded lmao, I've gotta figure out wether or not to just go for the hug, I don't use touch alot but I do like to use it, and I kinda stopped doing hugs because it was too friend like. Maybe just hug and hold her a bit longer next time. I'll try that next couple of girls.

I've stopped caring about rejection it means nothing to me, just means what I showed her wasn't what she wanted. Which means I gotta improve and just keep fucking working on it and hammering it out. I've come from negative and I'm so fucking happy for where I am at and excited for where I am going and who I will become.

Literally I never thought I would ever be able to hold a conversation with a cute girl, let alone kiss one, and sex... sex wasn't in my lifetime. I've had to work on social skills and hammer and hammer just to get to where I am. I can talk to cute girls on the street, sometimes I do mess up, sometimes I don't approach but it's okay, I'm awesome and I'm learning

(This was mostly a post for myself to boost my already high motivation and just inspire myself more, yes I am a narcissistic shit. Thanks for reading :) )
 

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Looking good bro. If I could make a suggestion it's probably to hesitate less, another source I use is Sasha Daygame and his "0 second rule"... he sees a cute girl and he literally runs up to her before he can overthink shit, this has worked very well for me. Whereas if I'm following them for a bit and turning it over in my mind it's pretty weak and it also looks weak to her (she obviously has noticed you already).

Feel you on the hug / nod issue, I was talking to a very cute tall half-Colombian half-Japanese woman on the Skybus from the airport recently, had a nice chat and asked her for a date, got the digits etc and flubbed it slightly when I said goodbye, was only gonna touch her elbow but she thought I was gonna kiss her and then changed her mind, then I gave her a kiss, but turns out Colombians kiss twice, argh! No response haha. Anyway, my suggestion would be to always try to give them a kiss on the cheek (I have heard Chase say this is too platonic and it's better to touch elbow and look sexually in eyes for a bit, but the kiss works well for me)... I attempt to give them a kiss nearly always, even if I didn't ask for a date, this has led to some funny situations like having her lean over the supermarket checkout for me to kiss her etc.

Ray
 

Raqimus

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ray_zorse said:
Looking good bro. If I could make a suggestion it's probably to hesitate less, another source I use is Sasha Daygame and his "0 second rule"... he sees a cute girl and he literally runs up to her before he can overthink shit, this has worked very well for me. Whereas if I'm following them for a bit and turning it over in my mind it's pretty weak and it also looks weak to her (she obviously has noticed you already).

Feel you on the hug / nod issue, I was talking to a very cute tall half-Colombian half-Japanese woman on the Skybus from the airport recently, had a nice chat and asked her for a date, got the digits etc and flubbed it slightly when I said goodbye, was only gonna touch her elbow but she thought I was gonna kiss her and then changed her mind, then I gave her a kiss, but turns out Colombians kiss twice, argh! No response haha. Anyway, my suggestion would be to always try to give them a kiss on the cheek (I have heard Chase say this is too platonic and it's better to touch elbow and look sexually in eyes for a bit, but the kiss works well for me)... I attempt to give them a kiss nearly always, even if I didn't ask for a date, this has led to some funny situations like having her lean over the supermarket checkout for me to kiss her etc.

Ray

Hahaha hey Ray that kiss close sounds fucking ballsy man! Yea shit can run smooth and the ending can just ruin everything... but its all good! just apart of the journey my friend :) (I love when shit like it happens so I can just laugh and remember not to do it again and improve) and I understand what your saying about hesitating, I do tend to calmly think about what's going on before I approach and so some ladies have missed out an an opportunity to get hit on hahaha. With that chick wasn't the case I wasn't going to approach her like I just wanted to get better at picturing women sexually and once I saw her face I decided to.
 

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So today I fucked up, why I'm still trying to decide why i said no, I would say it was the twang of fear(that i quickly silenced), the fear of the unknown or also because i don't have the money to spend on anything (40 bucks for the next two weeks lol).

So today is the first hot day in Boston, I walked out with a tank an some jeans and some chucks. Went to class and was only in there for about 5 minutes before he let us out. So I begin walking to the gym its quite the walk and the perfect opportunity to walk and pickup some chicks.

First girl i see is incredibly hot I fail to approach, I noticed in my head I said I cant have a girl like this (I then immediately silenced that notion, I've been trying to be more aware of my inner thoughts when it comes to women because i believe alot of whats holding me back is my inner game ) I failed to approach the next six girls on my way to the gym. I went to the gym and worked out and made myself a bit social talked to this old guy and I exchanged some words with this other guy.

So after the gym I'm incredibly low energy (didnt sleep much plus the workout) but im also very just calm now. ( I've noticed when I'm low energy girls are pretty warm to me, its like I'm low energy and i spike high before going low.)

So i jut calmly approach girls after the gym usually and today I only approached one. I was crossing the main road and i catch this petite girl on my right out of the corner of my eye and she looks in my direction so i look and see that i like her style it was pretty cool. She looks and i tell her that i like her style as we get to the other side. She distances herself turning her whole body towards me before she warmly thanks me.

We are walking and she matches my pace, I ask her name and i offer mines, I offer to shake (maybe i should skip the handshakes and do something else instead?) she has something in her hand but she makes the effort to move it out of her hand etc, i get three fingers and we laugh about it. I begin to lightly dive asking her questions about where shes from and she say here and i give her some shit about how she said shes from here when shes not. (From a different part of mass not boston) she explains her self and then asks me where I'm from etc.

It's a light convo exchanging info and stuff and I feel like I'm hiding the banana so i shift my tone to something warmer but hinting and sexual, along with other nonverbals. We go into what she was doing (studying at the library) and I give her some shit about spending her day in a library instead of outside on a beautiful day. Either way convo continues and i really like the vibe shes genuine. I know shes interested, but i dont know how to smoothly transition into asking for a date so i drew a blank and asked if she was single.

She tells me she has a boyfriend and i say "Oh cool, i wasn't trying to get a relationship out of you" she begins to giggle and we still are talking. At some point i say "well how about we go out for drinks oh wait your not 21" She says "yea I'm not 21" (She was a freshman btw forgot this in the initial exchange) I say well how about coffee, she excitedly says now?!

At that point is when i get a twing of nervousness that i silence and then i decide not to. Looking back I should have; she mentioned to me that she was leaving in two weeks and she seemed really excited and she didnt seem to care much about the bf. I had doubts whether or not I could lay her the same day, I had no clue on logistics (I knew she went to bu was a freshman so she was probably in dorms, but idk where their dorms are and she most likely has roomates). I had a plan in mind on what to do but i doubted i would suceed.

So we go further and i say well lets exchange numbers she says umm.. and i diffuse logically and she mentions me adding her on fb and i say nah im not doing that. She says "Im sorryyy" but in a girly appeasing way. We walk and talk about it some more and i say i don't use facebook like that and she says me neither so i playfully call her out on it he starts giggling then we chat a bit more and then we hit the corner i ask her which way shes going and shes going straight whereas I'm turning right so i bid her adieu. I turn and walk and never look back.

I have to approach more, and overcome these mindset issues that i have. (Thinking I'm not at the level to pull off a same day lay, the instant date i wasn't prepped for but i could handle it and move things forward to the bedroom, and just thinking I can get hot girls. Also side note I thought she was cute out of the corner of my eye but as we were in convo i noticed she was wayyy cuter and just my type. I didn't let it faze me. :)
 
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