Rate my ideas of boyfriend disqualification

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

What what are some of the ways you can disqualify yourself as a boyfriend, please rate them is it stupid, neutral, or great idea? (I am a wedding videographer in Moscow)

First idea is say that I am going back home to another city in about 2-3 weeks because the wedding season is almost over, (I think this is neutral and safe)

Second is I have a girlfriend back home, (I think a lot of girls may think that I am a piece of shit for meeting girls while in a relationship, one girl even said 'I will find her and tell her')

3rd - I hate shooting weddings and at this point I don't know what I want to do in my life (this one is supposed to remove that stability that comes with high paying job). I can also say that I don't even care if I make money until I figure out what I want to do with my life.

Next one is I broke up with my girlfriend back home because she was too needy and I did not have time to spend with her because of my busy schedule (implies that I will also be busy for her)

Next one is I'm not looking for relationship right now until I become a feature film director which would probably take me 3- 5 years because any woman will just slow me down, (or maybe I won't even mention the last part if it obviously sounds offensive to any woman)

Or maybe none of them are particularly important and I just need to be very not serious, playful, kind of playfully unstable with her, very sexy and then she will just think empirically that I am not a very good boyfriend material

 

[Will_V]

What what are some of the ways you can disqualify yourself as a boyfriend, please rate them is it stupid, neutral, or great idea? (I am a wedding videographer in Moscow)

First idea is say that I am going back home to another city in about 2-3 weeks because the wedding season is almost over, (I think this is neutral and safe)

Not bad. Introduces time constraint, and makes a relationship seem unlikely, but it's nobody's fault.

Second is I have a girlfriend back home, (I think a lot of girls may think that I am a piece of shit for meeting girls while in a relationship, one girl even said 'I will find her and tell her')

Not great, when a girl doesn't know you, thinking about you cheating is probably just going to be a turnoff.

3rd - I hate shooting weddings and at this point I don't know what I want to do in my life (this one is supposed to remove that stability that comes with high paying job). I can also say that I don't even care if I make money until I figure out what I want to do with my life.

Depends how you frame it. If you come across charismatic, self-satisfied, like you're on an adventure, it can work. I tell girls I'm a writer and the way I frame it is sort of like I'm searching for something, I'll tell them I'm on a walk looking for inspiration.

But if I just went "Idk wtf I'm doing with my life" it probably wouldn't go down so well.

Next one is I broke up with my girlfriend back home because she was too needy and I did not have time to spend with her because of my busy schedule (implies that I will also be busy for her)

Not great, if you're too busy for your girlfriend, you're probably too busy to be a lover.

Next one is I'm not looking for relationship right now until I become a feature film director which would probably take me 3- 5 years because any woman will just slow me down, (or maybe I won't even mention the last part if it obviously sounds offensive to any woman)

Just doesn't have an emotional resonance. What does that mean exactly for her? It's not clear.

Or maybe none of them are particularly important and I just need to be very not serious, playful, kind of playfully unstable with her, very sexy and then she will just think empirically that I am not a very good boyfriend material

Yes, this is the best. When you present with a bit of a wild edge and develop some sexual charisma, you can pretty much give girls the message with nonverbals alone.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

Not bad. Introduces time constraint, and makes a relationship seem unlikely, but it's nobody's fault.



Not great, when a girl doesn't know you, thinking about you cheating is probably just going to be a turnoff.



Depends how you frame it. If you come across charismatic, self-satisfied, like you're on an adventure, it can work. I tell girls I'm a writer and the way I frame it is sort of like I'm searching for something, I'll tell them I'm on a walk looking for inspiration.

But if I just went "Idk wtf I'm doing with my life" it probably wouldn't go down so well.



Not great, if you're too busy for your girlfriend, you're probably too busy to be a lover.



Just doesn't have an emotional resonance. What does that mean exactly for her? It's not clear.



Yes, this is the best. When you present with a bit of a wild edge and develop some sexual charisma, you can pretty much give girls the message with nonverbals alone.

Thank you so much for your reply. Is there a specific way that I can introduce my lover side when I approach during the day game? For example if a girl is a model, can I tell her or rather would it be beneficial to tell her that I don't really like models I'm tired of models, and I hope she's not like all those other models? I'm a videographer so that is actually true. Models are mostly smart and charismatic people in real life, it's just that I want her to think that I don't care about the looks that much, I'm used to looks, and I want her to qualify on something else.

So the question is is there a difference in the way boyfriend candidates and lover candidate would day game?

 

[Will_V]

Thank you so much for your reply. Is there a specific way that I can introduce my lover side when I approach during the day game? For example if a girl is a model, can I tell her or rather would it be beneficial to tell her that I don't really like models I'm tired of models, and I hope she's not like all those other models? I'm a videographer so that is actually true. Models are mostly smart and charismatic people in real life, it's just that I want her to think that I don't care about the looks that much, I'm used to looks, and I want her to qualify on something else.

So the question is is there a difference in the way boyfriend candidates and lover candidate would day game?

You want to be classy and smooth, not just blatantly dissing all models.

See this line from Neil Strauss to Jessica Alba, something similar to that can go down well - don't diss her looks, just make it seem like that's not what you're going to value in her, make her prove something substantial to you.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

You want to be classy and smooth, not just blatantly dissing all models.

See this line from Neil Strauss to Jessica Alba, something similar to that can go down well - don't diss her looks, just make it seem like that's not what you're going to value in her, make her prove something substantial to you.

Thank you for that answer, is there a difference of how a lover value guy and a boyfriend value guy with the game? Or is that difference begins only on the dates?

 

[isildur1]

The first one puts you in the fuck boy zone a girl may decide to not go on a date with you if they think they’re going to be pumped and dumped

the second one is just awful - it’s painting you as a disloyal cheater right off the bat . I don’t know what positive that could gleen.

third one seems the best of a bad bunch but I still wouldn’t use it until 3-5 dates in- I think all three somewhat ruin the romance of the relationship especially the first two - I think the first two will just lead to flakes

 

[isildur1]

When I’ve had time constraints before a lot of girls have decided not to meet as they don’t see long term future - hence why I see creating a false time constraint as adding little of value you’re only increasing the chance of flakes imo

 

[isildur1]

Also agree with Will v about the lover one- it shows you as uncaring and unattached women do want to be cared for at least the majority do -

tbh nearly all of these are painting you in a negative light someway or another - not great imo

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

Also agree with Will v about the lover one- it shows you as uncaring and unattached women do want to be cared for at least the majority do -

tbh nearly all of these are painting you in a negative light someway or another - not great imo

Well this is straight up from the chase article. What would you say to disqualify yourself as a boyfriend?

 

[isildur1]

Also something to add on top my spammy posts is that romantic love is important to women- doing any of these techniques you’re essentially killing the romantic essence and mystery of the relationship right off the bat whilst depicting yourself as lazy and self centred .

women want to feel romance and mystery - radical honesty on the first date is a poor idea- I tried this 10 years ago telling women I just wanted them for sex upfront all it got me was a string of flakes and rejections from women who were initially interested and did want to date me. I gained nothing from it , it just made me look socially retarded and selfish.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

Also something to add on top my spammy posts is that romantic love is important to women- doing any of these techniques you’re essentially killing the romantic essence and mystery of the relationship right off the bat whilst depicting yourself as lazy and self centred .

women want to feel romance and mystery - radical honesty on the first date is a poor idea- I tried this 10 years ago telling women I just wanted them for sex upfront all it got me was a string of flakes and rejections from women who were initially interested and did want to date me. I gained nothing from it , it just made me look socially retarded and selfish.

Okay brother so my biggest problem right now, my only problem, you might say, is girl really like me, but slow game me to shit. I dive deep well I touch some perfectly, 9 out of 10 girls end up in my apartment, I kiss a lot of them, I even touched the pussy of a lot of them but they have this huge electric fence when it comes to actually fucking. What must I change? Do you actually believe in boyfriend disqualifications? The way you put it is no girl will ever want sex without the romantic interest.

 

[isildur1]

Well this is straight up from the chase article. What would you say to disqualify yourself as a boyfriend?

I simply wouldn’t on the first few dates .I thought your post was related to doing these techniques on the first two dates as your previous post suggested that? What time are you planning to implement these ideas? Your previous post said you were planning to do it on the approach itself which I would advise against .

Well this is straight up from the chase article. What would you say to disqualify yourself as a boyfriend?

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I simply wouldn’t on the first few dates .I thought your post was related to doing these techniques on the first two dates as your previous post suggested that? What time are you planning to implement these ideas? Your previous post said you were planning to do it on the approach itself which I would advise against .

What do you mean first few days man? The idea is to have sex on the 1st, if you fail to do that you just need to have better skills. So this is the biggest problem of mine right now, girls like me too much, and even though they are at my apartment and I touch their pussy, they really stonewall me when it comes to actually have sex

 

[isildur1]

Okay brother so my biggest problem right now, my only problem, you might say, is girl really like me, but slow game me to shit. I dive deep well I touch some perfectly, 9 out of 10 girls end up in my apartment, I kiss a lot of them, I even touched the pussy of a lot of them but they have this huge electric fence when it comes to actually fucking. What must I change? Do you actually believe in boyfriend disqualifications? The way you put it is no girl will ever want sex without the romantic interest.

Personally whenever I’ve tried boyfriend disqualifications it’s worked very badly - it’s resulted in flakes and women going cold hence why I just don’t recommend them - I lost a lot of women whilst doing them and If I didn’t I’d have been able to keep it going longer

lmr happens - maybe it’s a cultural thing but I found it much harder to get laid in Ukraine than London and South east Asia- women wouldn’t want to get physical at all with me in Eastern Europe until the 3rd 4th date maybe it’s a cultural thing in Russia? I remember Roosh v saying he spent months in Ukraine gaming and never got a same day lay

 

[isildur1]

What do you mean first few days man? The idea is to have sex on the 1st, if you fail to do that you just need to have better skills. So this is the biggest problem of mine right now, girls like me too much, and even though they are at my apartment and I touch their pussy, they really stonewall me when it comes to actually have sex

Maybe reframe it and organise a second date then- not every girl fucks on the first date maybe you’re putting too much pressure on yourself to get quick results , only 20 percent of my dates ended in first date lays .

 

[isildur1]

What do you mean first few days man? The idea is to have sex on the 1st, if you fail to do that you just need to have better skills. So this is the biggest problem of mine right now, girls like me too much, and even though they are at my apartment and I touch their pussy, they really stonewall me when it comes to actually have sex

Even my best wingman would f close first date 30-40 percent- lmr and buyers remorse happens to everyone - a good way to reframe it is says “it’s ok if you wanna take things slow let’s go here for our next date I know this bar” this builds the in her mind she’s not getting just pump and dumped on the first date and that she has something to look forward to with you

or offer her a massage or do something else (cook, watch a movie) to take the mind off sex in that moment again what she does doesn’t matter it’s your reaction to her actions that matter

I also think it could be cultural as a lot of my wings in eastern europe very rarely got same day or first day lays but rather need a few dates before sealing the deal

 

[KJ Francis]

I think being ambiguous is very important.

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The one thing I am not so sure about from the link is the paying for dates (even cheap like coffee or tacos). It is also the traditional "masculine role" to propose with a diamond on your knees.

I say that primarily because investment itself increases attraction. If she pays for herself (or you), she rationalizes she must like you. Same with other investment like driving:

Her (after I called her a witch on halloween for putting a spell on me): I think you're the sorcerer here. You bewitched me to drive 20 minutes to your place for more than a year now

Her: How come you don't text me on the weekend? Do you have a wife?

Me: My hands are busy with the whip keeping them all inside the kitchen
You haven't noticed the shed lock?
What we have is magic isn't it

Her: It's not magic, you did something to me.

Me: And is that good?

Her: It is, so although it's sketchy of what we are, I'm still here.

Me: It is attachment. I enjoy our bond

Her: Me too, I like how I feel when I'm with you

If a woman thinks she knows what’s in your head, you’re boring. No matter how hot or cool you are. But if she cannot tell what’s in there or figure you out, & you are even a little bit attractive to her, she will grow increasingly curious about you — ultimately, intensely so.

https://xcancel.com/GirlsChase/status/1853897577625965016#m

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So I think the question is really like how do we reduce LMR specifically when she is withholding to string along your investment.

And can that be done in the opener.

Karea told me his opener implies he dates casually but I don't know what it is verbatim.

So I'm not really sure. Strong and early sexual frames and physical escalation mixed with genuine interest in her as a person?

 

[KJ Francis]

Do you use sex talk gambits? I think Alek does mostly night game but he rarely if ever faces LMR because the sexual frame is set rock solid before the pull.