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Reformed spam approacher big Improvement but very few dates

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Space Monkey
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My first big Improvement was when I started talking about girls' dreams and aspirations when approaching, instead of just asking if she has a boyfriend, taking a number and moving on. In the last week I have practiced looking for signs of approach invitations. I only approached girls who looked at me a lot, I don't think it is realistic to get other signs of approaching mutations in the busy Metro.

Right now my results are four to five approaches to one number on average, basically a tenfold Improvement compared to when I was spamming approaches.

I approach a girl that gave me an approach invitation, and who's at least a 7, I give a unique and genuine compliments, very raw.

I talk about what she does for work, or where she studies, at what she would like to do if anything was possible, then I enthusiastically say let's meet up for coffee, letting her know that it's what's on the inside that really got my attention, then I set up a date, take a number, and go.

They all continue conversations a little bit in Messengers, but then most of them never get to a date.

When I was approaching them, 80% of these girls looked extremely enthusiastic, like if we were on a date I would have sex with all of them, but then, because they're so busy living in the 16 million people City, or because I was not deep enough in my approach, or whatever else fucking reason, we very rarely get to the dates.

When I was spamming it was much clearer than this, I would get three four numbers, of which one would enthusiastically go on a date with me, and the rest will just ghost me, not answering anything, now everybody's talking to me, telling me they are busy, but never going on a date.

Could it be that I just got a very bad batch the whole week? Or could it be that somehow I'm not hooking them at all?
 

KJ Francis

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It could be that you are deep diving too early, which should be reserved for the date.

Chase explains here (see post #3)


So perhaps more teasing, cold reads, etc.
 
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thats_a_penis_disgustang

Space Monkey
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I guess my question here would be what to do to really get the attention and get deep in the head of this successful beautiful woman, who has her own small business, who's gorgeous, who's used to guys approaching her all the time, who's probably has 50 dialogues on WhatsApp with unanswered messages from guys. What do I do so she remembers me one week later when she's finally free? Do I get a lot of compliance from her? Do I treat her like shit in a funny way? Do I try to really connect with her in those 3 minutes that we have before her train arrives? How do I stand out, when I really only have three to five minutes?
 

KJ Francis

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The video on post #35 may help here


Ok so in a situation where you have a clearly higher SMV than the girl, like an older guy walking around a few blocks from a college campus... Fundamentals are going to allow for a direct compliment opener that increases your attainability, and will also do most of the job of A2 (tgough you still need to tease) and you can go into A3 qualification a bit faster.

I am KJ hypothesizing here so maybe some higher skilled guys like @West_Indian_Archie would have some ideas of how to think of this for skeet shooting metro game (though not sure if he does day game).

But in your situation of meeting women of particular quality, she will not be sold on you that fast, so from the lens of the M3 model, you are trying to go from A1 through C1 and then end on a time bridge (see the images near the end of the thread above).

What opener are you using?

So I think skipping fast to A3 qualification is an issue here because you are showing interest in her before establishing her interest in you.

So I wonder maybe you do need to focus on teasing. Also do some body rocking and false time constraints to telegraph disinterest. Find ways to trigger attraction switches. A lot of it is implied preselection by not being sold on her too quick.

Only after she has exhibited IOI's (indicators of interest), then you move to qualifying her. Basic screening, not deep motivations where you are showing huge interest in her. Once she starts earning your interest, reward her with focused attention, touch, etc.

At this point, move her to not get run over in the metro.

Then do your best to build a little comfort rapport in the short time you have. Maybe here you could get into a little more of the deep diving (light version). This is the only way I know to really build the feeling of connection to you. This is C1 after the move. Basically extended qualification from A3.

Then propose the time bridge (date). After her acceptence, then ask for the number.

So A1 opener, A2 one minute, A3 two minutes, C1 two minutes. Propose date, get number.
 
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