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Relationship seeming to fizzle, am I too late

LiquidYeti

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Hi guys,
Bit of a unique situation going on, and was wondering if I could get some advice. Here's the back story:
Met a girl at work (I'm a bartender) and we hit it off. She asked for my number, we texted for a bit and then I asked her out on a date. Date was amazing, intense
attraction was had, and we slept together, and proceeded to sleep together for about a month and date. Sex was out of this world and frequent, far and away the most intense either of us had experienced.

Originally, she was planning on moving away in early December, and the plan was to call things off before that. She ramped up the time spent with me before that
, and I was receptive, but accepting that there may not be a relationship at hand, with her being across the country. After she left, we talked a bit, and she
mentioned that she would be open to do a long distance relationship, and the she couldn't stop thinking about me. I said I would have to think about it, and then
finally agreed I could make it work.

Fast forward 3 weeks later, she is coming home, citing the employment opportunity not working out and missing home/me.The relationship was great while she was
away, and she admitted multiple times to being very glad she had met me etc. Things were great until NYE of this year. She was very sweet, came to see me at
work at midnight, and then went back to the party she was at and partied the night away. She was supposed to come to my place after the party, but said she got
very intoxicated and her sister took her home. She didn't contact me that night to tell me she wasn't coming by, so naturally I was worried for her safety. When
she woke the next morning I confronted her about it, and she told me the story of her night. Angrily, I questioned the story and she rebutted with anger that
I didn't trust her. We talked it out, made up, and I proceeded to try and forgive her.

A few days later (7th or 8th), she was out with friends, and stopped by work to say hi. I had been having a bad week due to a lot of stress, and I told her I would
meet her upstairs at the bar after I was off. Everything was fine, she was talking about how she was planning on booking a week trip for us down south.

That night, I had a bit too much to drink, and was a bit clingy with her up at the bar. I wanted her to go home with me, and she had already committed to staying
with her friend for the night, and doing a breakfast with the girls the next morning. I made some jealous moves with her guy friends, then left and proceeded to
immediately apologize over text.

The next day, she was very distant. I messaged her in the morning wanting to talk about what had went down last night, and she replied that she was cranky and
didn't want to talk, and needed some space. I panicked a bit, and told her that that was what I wanted to apologize to her for not giving, and pushed her to talk
anyway. Eventually she just said that she felt like I was being overbearing and i didn't contact her for the rest of the day.

After a day and a bit of space, I contacted her in the case of the anniversary of my Dad's death, and I was quite upset and wanted to talk. The conversation
eventually turned toward our fight, and I maintained that I had been having a bad week, and couldn't tell why i had been acting so oddly. I suggested maybe I
didnt take enough time to reconcile NYE, and that I was letting that color the way I treated her. She said she didn't want to break up, but that she wanted to feel
like I supported her through everything, and that she wanted to feel like she could do what she wanted to do in life like travel without feeling like I was trying
to hold her back. I expressed the same need. Conversation ended well, and we returned to 'space'

Three days later, she calls me late at night after work, saying that she had to be honest with me, and that the timing just wasn't right for her. She had strong
feelings for her but that it had really spooked her when I was a touch jealous and a bit overbearing, and that she wasn't sure that she was ready for a
serious commitment. This after she was repeatedly saying at how she could see herself spending a long time with me.

Here's where it gets hairy: I chased her back a bit. We talked on the phone for about an hour, and I tried to convince her we could make it work, and it was
just a bad spell. She said she wasn't so sure, and I countered with the fact that maybe I was feeling some stuff that remained from my last relationship and
just needed to confront that and sort it out. She agreed that maybe that was it and we should not be together while I sort my stuff out. I was fairly calm about
it and we agreed to take some time to heal and figure out what we wanted.

Two days later she shows up at an event I'm at, and I'm quite inebriated for a friends birthday. She walks by and I say hi, we start talking and she says that
I should cab home because I'm a bit far gone. I agree and we go outside. She kisses me and puts me in the cab. I get home, and later that night she shows up,
stopping in on her way to her place to check on me, we talk and kiss, and she finally leaves. The next day I confront her about needing to respect my space, and
not messing around with my heart like that, but she then proceeds to text me during the day trying to make small talk. I say I need time to figure my things out,
and I wont be able to talk to her until I do. She says ok, she'll give me all the time I need, and that she feels like she tried, and it's unfortunate that the timing
isn't.


There's the background, now I need help finding a solution. I really enjoy spending time with this girl. Connection was there, sex was great. How do I go about getting her back without the chase? Do I just have to let her cool off and make the first move? Do I display as much confidence and desirability as I can? I have been good so far, not texting her or contacting her for the last few days. My current strategy is to display as much value as possible and make her miss me. I cannot chase, as I know I've been hovering close to that line already, and it has only served to scare her off a bit.

What's my play?
 

Tyme2k

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Wow man, bumpy ride.

I can tell you, you wont find the solution to your problem in a forum. Something I've learned is everyone comes into our lives how and when they do for a reason. We don't always know why right away either, but eventually we learn and grow the way we were supposed to. Clearly she wants you, and if it's meant to be it will. I promise you another thing, if the sex was great and the connection was there, you will find it again with her or someone else. Now you know what you're looking for and will never settle for less. This will help you find abundance and know that she isn't the reason it was that way, it's up to you to dictate your future.

Probably not much help, but hope it gives you some value,

Care
 

LiquidYeti

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DrexelScott said:
1. NEXT

2. Find a couple new girlfriends

3. Immediately cut out all chasing, pursuer type behavior. Immediately. It works 0/100 times and completely ruins the proper dynamic for a relationship, which is that she's more into you than you are into her.

4. Don't spend so much time together so quickly with the next girl, keep it to once a week.

Thanks for the advice,

So if I'm getting this correctly, by essentially reframing the relationship and moving on to someone else, I can fix this? I have to be more clear here. I've dated a lot, game has been tight with this girl until I slipped up because of outside factors and leaned on her for happiness. There are many other fantastic women I could date right now, I just have a great connection with this one. My chasing wasn't really that intense, I agreed that a breakup would probably be the best decision while I got my head right, and that I was displaying qualities because of outside factors that I had been quite clear that I didn't want in a relationship. It wasn't a case of me begging her or anything at all. If anything when she started coming on to me at the bar I told her that I needed her to respect my space and that it wasn't fair for her to kiss me etc.

Guess what I'm trying to say is, minor slip up on my part. Really didn't do much damage, and have been NC and showing high value since. I'm thinking it's just a matter of timing at this point, go out, have fun( similar friend circles), and display very high social value in her presence. If I meet her somewhere, act confident and cool, just as I was before she arrived and after she leaves. We both want the same things from a relationship, and were very clear. I messed up a bit, time for me to re-instate myself like a boss.

You agree? If not, why?
 

LiquidYeti

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Really appreciate your input, and I do see the merit in it. I agree, my behaviour was needy, I let my outside struggles seep into my relationship with this girl. Tables turned from her chasing me around to me beginning to chase her. I've been in enough relationships of both natures to know that.

I've been on a date, really focused on clearing my mind, released an album etc. I've really not had troubles in the past with this, which I why I came here asking for help. I acted out of character due to stress in my life, and dealt with it poorly. I dated women, I had abundance, but at the same time I have no issue with monogamy, as she posed the question and I agreed to be exclusive. Now that we have broken things off, I still have abundance. It's not really about my relationships with other women and my ability to date and display an abundance mentality. I was being honest about the last few weeks of my life, and admitting my mistakes. You think it's major, I think it's not so major. I pulled my cards back soon enough.
That's why I'm here I guess. In the rare event where I make this kind of mistake in a relationship due to strong feelings and a bit of insecurity caused by a bit of a whirlwind of stressors, do I just put it in the past? Call it a wash? Doesn't really make sense to me in that sense. I'm the type to go get what I want, and my behaviour is embarrassing to me. I'm prepared to NEXT or give a period of no contact or whatever, but I also refuse to sell myself short and essentially give up on it and move on from one of the few chicks that I thought was worth keeping around.

I don't think my thoughts are so different than yours, display value and some no contact could be healthy for this, it will be healthy. Maybe I meet someone or stop caring along the way to feeling 100%, but I'm just looking for some advice that could shape my approach and put it on the right frame
 

luego

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Chase (I believe) just recently wrote an article Reversing Past Precedent with a Girl You Like.

He walks through the various options (and one of the scenario is the exact one you *think* that you were in (ie it's not me, was just a squirrely few weeks and I'm not normally like this). It's a horribly bumpy road with a low success ratio, but your options are explained there.

Nexting is probably best, though.
 
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