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BarryS1

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Taking a break from writing in my older women journal to report a New Year’s party. I laid the girl on the first date after meeting at a Meetup.com NYE party sponsored by several professional networks. Just graduated college, so I wanted to try peeking into the singles events in the area. The demographics were surprising for an event catered to the young professionals network. Nevertheless, I encountered new situations and really made up for lost progress the last couple months. After ending my first FWB relationship in November, I’ve been stuck in a rut and had a couple dozen non-successful approaches.

Pt. 1 – Party – 12/28
-Dance w/ group.
-General socializing and approach 6 girls.
-Approach girl sitting down with indirect-direct.
-Sit with girl and her group. Grabs her #.
-Dance with girl.
-Sit down again and invite myself over to her place.
-Go home early (12:00am) when girl dances with her friends.

Pt. 2 – Date – 1/1
-Meet at cheap take-out restaurant.
-Deep-diving & banter.
-Split check.
-Walk around outside.
-Sit in car.
-Invite myself over.

Pt. 3 - Sex
-Drinks.
-Fiddled around on the couch for 2 hrs.
-We took a shower
-Sex
-She compared me to ex lovers???


Pt. 1

Demographics:
-400 ppl.
-70% 40 and over.
-Around 10 ppl under 30.

Room Layout:
-Dozens of tables spread throughout a high-ceiling room.
-Outdoor patio with heated lamps over tables.
-Small dance floor at the back.
-Two bars, each on opposite sides in the middle of the room.

Entered at 9pm and immediately found a wingman because he was the only guy NEAR my age. I spotted a group of five girls (mid/late-20s) posing for the camera on the dance floor and suggested we talk to them. I approached the hottest girl in the group (latina) with indirect-direct and suggested we dance. After showing me the cha-cha and salsa for 15 min., she declined my suggestion to sit down. The conversation was lively and had plenty of contact during dancing, but I could not convince her to sit. My wingman experienced the same with his girl, so we bid them farewell and continued socializing.

My wingman left 10min. later, so we exchanged contact information for more Meetup.com events. I approached 5 other girls with indirect-direct that night. They were very receptive and I would of continued talking if they had not been so old. After 1 ½ hrs of socializing, I see the same group of girls sitting at a table with several guys scattered about them. Spotted a girl (Asian, mid-20s, 5’4’’ish) sitting at the table and approach her with the “just noticed” technique and indirect-direct.

Me: Hello!

Girl: Oh, hi!

Me: How’s your night going so far?

Girl: I’m doing okay, just resting from dancing so long. How about you?

Me: Oh, yeah me too. Actually, I thought you looked stunning so I had to say hello.

Girl: Oh my gosh, thanks! But weren’t you just dancing with my friend X?

Me: Don’t tell me you’re not glad! May I join you? (gesturing my hand).

Girl: Whaaaat! Uh, okay. Yeah sure! (surprised expression and taking miscellaneous items off a spare chair for me).

Me: My name’s Barry by the way (extends hand).

Girl: I’m X.

Our conversation got looks from other girls at the table and w/in minutes were taking pictures of us. One of the guys came back to the table and asked me how long we knew each other. I way like, “I dunno, probably like 5 minutes.” The girl laughed and continued the conversation. I’ve never met a girl so energetic or affectionate before, she was bouncing off the walls with energy. Approx. 10 min. into the conversation, the girls throws me a fastball.

Girl: Aren’t you going to ask me my phone #?

Me: It’s only 11pm! Do you think I’m going anywhere?

Girl: Well you did not ask me yet!

(friend interrupts)

2nd girl: Wow! You two are a cute couple. Get together for another picture!

Me: (To friend) What am I a trophy or something? I wasn’t expecting this!

Girl: Soooo, where do you live?

Never had someone asked for my phone number and where I live at the same time. I lived around 40 min. away, but she was right down the street. She kept pressing for a phone number, so I got hers just in case. We got up and danced with her friends for awhile before sitting back down again. She got up AGAIN to dance with her friends for a girls only mosh pit. I waited at the table for 25min. before getting bored and leaving the venue at 12pm.

Text response:

Me: (12:30 am) X, nice meeting you! Save my number – Barry =)

Girl: Hey! Nice meeting you :) We’re still here

Me: Quite the party animal ;)

Girl: (1:10am) Not really haha. Just got home. Have a good night!

I sent a cold-text the next day for a date and got an immediate response about “letting me know later.” Experienced a hassel to choose a restaurant because she was finicky about this one place almost 1 hr. away. I txted to speak to her and demanded a particular place (take it or leave it) near her residence.

Pt. 2 – Date

Met a restaurant I choose called Pho Kim Long LOL!!!!!! She was full of energy like last time and required CONSTANT adjustment during the conversation. A lot of outgoing/bubbly girls just cannot stop talking when nervous. I asked “What do you do during your free time?” at the beginning and rolled with it the entire time. She did not find any information besides a brief explanation of my occupation (she’s a white-collar professional too). Here’s the interesting snipped of the conversation about STI’s she brought up:

Girl: Yeah, I’m really careful about my body. I’m the healthiest personal I know!

Me: Cool, I just got a healthy food routine down as well and I’m starting kick-boxing again next week.

Girl: What I meant to say was, I got tested recently and everything was fine.

Me: Oh really? What made you take the test?

Girl: I broke up with my boyfriend a month ago, so I got a 8 panel test just in case. Everything came up negative.

Noticed how she brought up sexual and non-sexual health at the same time. The conversation had sexual overtones, but I did not expect this to pop up. We split the check and after walking around headed to my car and sat inside. After talking to two minutes or so I invited myself over to her place. She did not hesitate at all and said to follow her car. Should of skipped steps and invited myself to her place instead of taking the date to the car.


Pt. 3- Sex

I’ve seen (and had sex) with her once after this so I have trouble remembering the details.

My escalation steps:
-Touching hands and hips when start drinking/eating
-Kiss cheek multiple times
-Short lip kiss by me
-Returns by tonging me HARD
-Run fingers through hair, make out, and rub crotch.

It took about 5 min. to reach the last step, but she emitted a LOUD moan and thrust her pelvis in the air to twist away from me. “I didn’t say you were gonna get anything” she said playfully. I repeated 5-6 times, while skipping some steps before she offered to take a shower/brush teeth together. Strange how every Chinese girl I ever met was SUPER uptight about cleanliness. Oh yeah, she made me wash my hands like 10 times that night!

I carried her to bed after taking the shower and continued rubbing the clit, making her thrust her hips in the air again. After fingering, I ate her out with my “alphabet technique” (spelling the alphabet with my tongue on her clit A-Z and backwards). Reaching the letter “I” she exclaimed, “What the fuck! I was not expecting this!” I slapped on a condom and lubed her up well with k-9 before entering with Chase’s modified missionary position. Sexual positions were SUPER constrained with this girl because thrusting all the way made her stop sex. Switching to doggy, butterfly, and lying on stomach gave her pain. I eventually went back to the modified missionary position with “do you want me to stop?” and “am I still…?” techniques. Performing 3 waves of the “am I still…?” technique while pulling her in caused a different type of moaning – muffled and gasping for breath. After screaming “I’m done”,pulling me out, and scooting away, I agreed to jack off on her. I timed myself around 11:00 entering her and finished at 11:45pm. Probably the reason I lasted so long was because she constantly stopped me! :)

After taking a shower and cleaning up, she spoke about her old boyfriend of 2 years and their first night together.

Girl: “I did not expect you to be so experienced. What the fuck British boy!?”

Me: (Forgot what I said).

Girl: “You were too big for me and HAD SOME MUCH ENERGY BRITISH BOY.”

(Starts punching me hard).

Girl: “You know, the first time with my ex-boyfriend, we had sex 5 times throughout the night.”

Me: “Wow, cool” (Unenthusiastic expression).

Me: “Ok, would you rather ride the merry-go-round five time or the fastest ROLLER-COASTER once?!”

Girl: HAHA! “Rollercoaster!”

We did a second date a couple weeks ago and agreed to see each other on a casual basis. I made it clear my schedule was busy and could not text often/unsure when I was free.


My thoughts:
Definitely not a smooth LR, but I stuck to a game plan and got results. I gained more experience from sex and foreplay than our conversations.

Hope y’all enjoyed! :)
 
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PrettyDecent

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Nice job, Barry - sounds like you really blew her away ;). Real solid chase framing.

BarryS1 said:
Me: (To friend) What am I a trophy or something? I wasn’t expecting this!

Girl: Soooo, where do you live?

That is an escalation window, my friend! That's when you pull her out of the venue and invite yourself over to her place. Didn't make a difference this time, though. She really liked you.

BarryS1 said:
She was full of energy like last time and required CONSTANT adjustment during the conversation. A lot of outgoing/bubbly girls just cannot stop talking when nervous. I asked “What do you do during your free time?” at the beginning and rolled with it the entire time.

Sounds like you've got a solid, smooth vibe down. Way to keep the control in the interaction on your side despite the pressure to get caught up in her nervousness!

BarryS1 said:
Girl: Yeah, I’m really careful about my body. I’m the healthiest personal I know!

Me: Cool, I just got a healthy food routine down as well and I’m starting kick-boxing again next week.

If a girl says something to impress you, that's a great time to get her self-qualifying more. If you say something impressive in reply to her qualification, it does all sorts of bad for your attainability.

Anyways man, nice job on getting her casual! And I can tell from what you wrote that your demeanor put lots of good pressure/tension on her, which greatly aided your cause.

~Nick
 

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Barry, nice LR. Mad props to you for making this happen, she sounds like she'll be a good FB, especially for practice ;-). Generally you read all her signals correctly (minus one missed escalation window the first night, PrettyDecent pointed this out), and commend you for making things happen despite her resistance...
BarryS1 said:
I sent a cold-text the next day for a date and got an immediate response about “letting me know later.” Experienced a hassel to choose a restaurant because she was finicky about this one place almost 1 hr. away. I txted to speak to her and demanded a particular place (take it or leave it) near her residence.

Nice job following process and keeping things very simple and straightforward.

BarryS1 said:
Girl: Aren’t you going to ask me my phone #?

Me: It’s only 11pm! Do you think I’m going anywhere?

Girl: Well you did not ask me yet!

She's chasing, plus giving you very clear signs of interest as to what she wants with you. Nice job playing it smooth.

BarryS1 said:
Girl: Soooo, where do you live?

Escalation window. You could have pulled her out soon after she said this.

BarryS1 said:
We split the check and after walking around headed to my car and sat inside. After talking to two minutes or so I invited myself over to her place. She did not hesitate at all and said to follow her car. Should of skipped steps and invited myself to her place instead of taking the date to the car.

Going to your car definitely didn't hurt you, but yes you could have probably skipped this and proposed going to her place at the cafe instead.
How did you invite yourself to her place? What did you tell her?
 

BarryS1

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Nice job, Barry - sounds like you really blew her away ;). Real solid chase framing.

Thanks Nick! I’ve always made strong connections with energetic/bubbly girls, but this was the first I got a sexual with. Franco made a post a few weeks ago that really hit home – maintaining sexual vibe despite having a great conversation with the girl. Not following that rule really bit me in the ass my entire life.

That is an escalation window, my friend! That's when you pull her out of the venue and invite yourself over to her place. Didn't make a difference this time, though. She really liked you.

You’re right, I should have invited myself over that instant. After hearing her, I thought about waiting to the end of the night, but friends became a distraction. In that situation, I’m not sure whether she would have left (so early in the night) or kept me in mind for later and stayed w/ me.


If a girl says something to impress you, that's a great time to get her self-qualifying more. If you say something impressive in reply to her qualification, it does all sorts of bad for your attainability.

I can’t find the link, but found one of Chase’s articles about becoming a “mirror” for girls. Sounds like I brought up common interests at the wrong time and missed an opportunity. I should buy the book to sort this stuff out :p


Thanks Ozzo, this one will definitely be good practice! She’s exactly the niche of girl I wanted to get good at when finding the site.

How did you invite yourself to her place? What did you tell her?

After getting into the car and putting music on, she started complaining about the music choice and the cold. Here’s my best recollection of what happened:

Girl: Turn the music louder, I can’t hear it!

Me: Deep house music isn’t meant for that. It’s supposed to be ambient and set the moooooood (pinching her arm and got playfully punched back several times).

Girl: Haha! I don’t like this music and it’s WAYYY to cold Barry, GOSH!

Me: Well, I already told you I live on the other side of town. I am not sure what you are doing later, but maybe we can have a nightcap at your place?

Girl: Nightcap, what does that mean?

Me: Like, open up a glass of wine.

Girl: Oh, you mean like have alcohol and come over? (She was a smart girl academically, but had no idea what this meant).

Me: Yes

Girl: Ok, can I trust you to come over?

Me: I’ll be a good guest, I promise (reach out and squeeze her hands).

Girl: You don’t think this is weird do you, inviting you over? You aren’t going to think of me strangely after this right? I mean we only met on Saturday.

Me: No I don’t think it’s strange inviting someone over for a nightcap. People move at different rates, I think it’s a good idea. What’s your address (whipping out my phone).

She gives me the address while muttering things and told me to follow her to the apartment. I could tell she was nervous because she SLAMMED my coupe’s door into another car while getting out. She didn’t say sorry or turn back, just ran to her car. I was about to get mad, then I was like, WHATEVER, GONNA HAVE SEX Lol!!

I'm trying to come up with a better explanation for the "Are we moving to fast?" question. This is what I have so far, but looking to change it up. Worked on this girl probably because we had a good connection beforehand and did not offer any real resistance.
 

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BarryS1 said:
She’s exactly the niche of girl I wanted to get good at when finding the site.

What niche is that?

<Comments in these tags>

BarryS1 said:
Girl: Turn the music louder, I can’t hear it!

Me: Deep house music isn’t meant for that. It’s supposed to be ambient and set the moooooood (pinching her arm and got playfully punched back several times). <Nice kino moment>

Girl: Haha! I don’t like this music and it’s WAYYY to cold Barry, GOSH!

Me: Well, I already told you I live on the other side of town. I am not sure what you are doing later, but maybe we can have a nightcap at your place? <Invitational pull>

Girl: Nightcap, what does that mean? <Sounds like a shit-test to see if you'll stay strong or back out>

Me: Like, open up a glass of wine. <You're clear and direct>

Girl: Oh, you mean like have alcohol and come over? (She was a smart girl academically, but had no idea what this meant). <Thinking about whether she's going to agree or not, "are you serious?">

Me: Yes <Direct and smooth, "yes, I'm serious">

Girl: Ok, can I trust you to come over? <Agrees, puts up weak resistance, plausible deniability set up>

Me: I’ll be a good guest, I promise (reach out and squeeze her hands). <LOVE THIS. It sounds like you're answering the question, in a trustworthy way, when you're not saying anything about not being naughty or physical>

Girl: You don’t think this is weird do you, inviting you over? You aren’t going to think of me strangely after this right? I mean we only met on Saturday. <Testing to see how open minded you are, judgment test "are you on the same page as me?">

Me: No I don’t think it’s strange inviting someone over for a nightcap. People move at different rates, I think it’s a good idea. What’s your address (whipping out my phone). <Good opportunity to convey your sexual vibe. I like the simplicity of your answer. You also reassure her that you're on the same page as her in this>

She gives me the address while muttering things and told me to follow her to the apartment. I could tell she was nervous because she SLAMMED my coupe’s door into another car while getting out. She didn’t say sorry or turn back, just ran to her car. I was about to get mad, then I was like, WHATEVER, GONNA HAVE SEX Lol!!

Lastly:

BarryS1 said:
I'm trying to come up with a better explanation for the "Are we moving to fast?" question. This is what I have so far, but looking to change it up. Worked on this girl probably because we had a good connection beforehand and did not offer any real resistance.

Some tips here:
https://www.girlschase.com/content/9-sec ... sexual-man

I would try to apply those (especially #3,4,5,7,9) in the context of your conversations.
 

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Ozzo, really cool feedback! I guess you can say I was direct, yet not over sexual. I'm working on getting a sexual vibe this year, so I'll stick to this for now.

What niche is that?

Going off of Chase's Finding Your Niche pdf, I'm looking for a passionate, talkative, athletic, exotic, brunette, and professional girl.

Here's the link: https://www.girlschase.com/downloads/Finding Your Niche.pdf
 

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I think the moving fast thing can be fixed with framing yourself in two ways. The first is that you don't agree with the whole, "Girls are slutty if they have sex" frame. If you tell her something like Alec uses in his article, https://www.girlschase.com/content/three ... -two-girls. He says, "Well, that is exactly what I love about London and other major cities in Europe; people are so sexually liberated there [this for instance is not a fact, just some random statement I am saying in order to get my point out]! That is an amazing thing, because sexual freedom is simply beautiful!"

That's a lot of words, but you want to basically say something like about how society is wrong (us vs them mentality), how you think sex is natural (shows her she doesn't have to be uptight), and you respect people who go for what they want (she should make a move on you).

The second frame is that you don't kiss and tell. I have a LR where I convinced a girl that I don't tell my friends about who I fuck. I told her, "I used to, but then word got around and people kept talking about it. So I stopped telling people and there's so much less drama"

Set those two frames, and it makes LMR so much easier to overcome.
 
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