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21 May 2024, Rio de Janeiro
Sitting at a boutique corner cafe in Copacabana, I was reading some GC articles on my laptop and taking notes when a small, beautiful, incredibly well-endowed black girl with long braided hair and a razor-thin waist walked in. She sat at the table next to me and ordered a brownie.
After some time, struggling to focus, I turned to open her while pretending to get up to leave:
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
Her: Yes, I do
Me: Great. Can I tell you something?
Her: Okay
Me: This is kind of crazy but you… look exactly like my ex-girlfriend, only there’s a different sort of energy behind your eyes, like a different vibe (the classic @Gunwitch opener)
She hooked pretty quickly and we held strong eye contact. While bantering and teasing her a little, I occasionally touched her arm and elbow. She told me a few things about her: she’s 23, works in luxury hotel during the day, and plays bass in a rock band at night. I related by telling her I play guitar and took her hand to compare finger sizes.
I considered bouncing, but she mentioned that she had to go back to work, so I closed strong:
"Listen, I have to go meet a friend for lunch now, but I think you're very beautiful and I'd like to meet you for a wine or even a coffee sometime."
We exchanged numbers and texted back and forth that evening. She seemed invested enough that I quickly scheduled the date. I suggested two options - tomorrow or Friday (two days later). She said she could skip class tomorrow to hang out (a BIG investment indicator), so I went with that.
Logistics was a bit of a problem. I was staying at a place that didn’t allow visitors, and wouldn’t be moving to an independent place for another couple of days. I considered postponing the date until I was at the new place, but decided it’s better to strike while the iron is hot. I planned to use this first date to nail the Social and Emotional keys with her (of the "Three Keys" framework from SMMA), then the Sexual key on the second date using sex talk gambits and physical escalation to spike for the pull.
Since our conversation had revolved around art and music, I suggested checking out an art gallery, then a walk along the beach to grab a drink elsewhere. Normally I don’t do art galleries for first dates as they can be boring, distracting, and aren't ideal for conversation, but since it was well-located and I planned this to be a two-part date, it seemed workable. I figured that if it was boring, it would be easy to suggest moving on to the next venue where I can properly deep dive and escalate.
We met at the metro station. She was 30 minutes late and apologised profusely, which I teased her about a little. Our energies were well-matched - I found it incredibly easy to tease her and push her buttons, which carried itself throughout the entire date. I don’t know why this happens for me with certain types of girls. But being aware not to overdo it and seem like a dancing monkey, I made an effort to fractionate the teasing with regular chit-chat.
Kino was strong throughout - holding her hand to cross the road, guiding her around by the back of her waist, pulling her in when I made a dumb joke, etc. I was almost concerned I might be overdoing it and cause a negative FSC reaction, but fortunately she was invested enough that it didn’t happen.
The art gallery turned out to be a total bore as expected, but the teasing and joking kept things energised between us. After 20 minutes I led her to the beach. Found a nice spot on a sea wall by the marina, facing a full moon. While sitting there, I ran a couple of my emotional stimulator stories that I have memorised and a cold read, along with the love languages routine. I also ran the Self-control is Sexy gambit, which elicited a very positive reaction.
I got a lot of frame tests from her, and I could tell she was feeling nervous about kissing. I told her it’s my job to try and her job to resist. She laughed at that. I kissed her softly and she didn't resist. Later I kissed here again, a little more passionately.
After a while, we got up and walked further down the beach. At that point I realised I’d better wrap things up soon to avoid an emotional state crash by spiking further (since I didn’t have the logistics to pull), so after another half hour of walking and talking, I told her I’d better head home to finish some work. She asked when we could see each other again, and we agreed on Friday (two days later) and said goodbye at the metro station.
Things went a little unexpected on the second date. We met for drinks and a swim at the beach, and it was my intention to verbally escalate and pull later that evening. However, she told me after showing up that she had band practice at 7pm. Ugh…
I tried to hide my disappointment, but she could sense it. I told her that I had hoped to spend more time with her, and she apologised. I could tell she genuinely felt bad about it. It didn’t help that she was on anxiety meds that day, so she was spaced out like a zombie and that changed the vibe (massive red flag, I know, but I’m a sucker for the hot crazy girls - it will probably be the death of me one day lol).
We went for the swim and the açai. Since I knew I couldn’t pull that day, I didn’t run any of the sexual escalation material I had planned, which was frustrating because I felt that the social frame was already strong enough (plenty of compliance) and I’d already used most of my emotional material, so this was really the only missing key. As punishment for her behaviour, whenever the vibe started to escalate, I broke it by reminding her that she had band practice later. I would use the stick today and the carrot next time. It worked - she apologised several times and said that she would clear her evening for me next time.
Here’s were things started to veer off track. Sensing that she was invested and the social frame was advantageous to me (her owing me for the messed up date), I texted her suggesting to come over after band practice. She declined, saying that she would be too tired as she had to work the next day.
This was a mistake for two reasons. First, it generated unnecessary negative momentum which hurt my frame. Second, by going for the pull before I had even properly sexually aroused her (I had intentionally neglected the Sexual Key material up till that point), I revealed my hand prematurely.
We had scheduled another date for Sunday, but I could already tell that there was something wrong with the frame from the following exchange via text:
(Talking about baking)
Me: Baking is a nostalgic activity for me
Her: Really? Tell me more
Me: Tomorrow *winky face*
Her: Control yourself *winky face*
Me: I meant I’ll tell you tomorrow
Her: And I’m telling you to be a good boy
Her: And behave
Me: Um okay lol
Her: Just messing with you haha
Me: Haha
Me: So anyway, I was thinking maybe we could rent bikes and go around the lake
Me: Then grab a drink in Ipanema
This was at 7:30pm, and I didn’t get a response from her until the next day. In my mind, I assumed the worst and that she had completely changed her mind about me. She replied the next morning though agreeing to the date plan. But I knew from her frame grab attempt that she probably now thought I just wanted to get into her pants, and so I would be facing serious LMR.
With the sexual frame somewhat ruined, I figured my best chance would be by taking a step back physically and running some comforting sex talk gambits to communicate to her that I am a guy who understands women and not just a horny tourist. I decided the best gambits to achieve this would be the Comfort & Trust gambit followed by the Eight Orgasms routine, so I memorised the hell out of them and even recited them in front of the mirror (autistic I know, but I REALLY wanted to seal the deal with this girl).
It was raining that day, so we just met for drinks instead. At first, the vibe was bouncy again like the first date. I was purposefully being a little more distant though, since I wanted to verbally convey sexual understanding before physically escalating again. But I was still teasing her to keep her emotionally engaged.
We reached the bar, I sat us down at a table where we could sit next to each other, and ordered the drinks. At some point in the conversation, she asked me about other girls I’ve dated in my travels, which I deflected with humor (five wives, one for each continent). I used this as a launchpad for the first gambit:
“So, I’m curious, what’s it like dating Brazilian guys?”
She told me the experience has mostly been negative for her because they’re super direct and aggressive. This provided the perfect transition for me:
(borrowing this almost verbatim from @Teevster's gambit - link above)
Me: You know, it’s funny how most guys don’t understand women at all. They think they can impress girls by showing off and bragging, and that this will get them aroused. But the truth is… girls don’t find that sexy at all, isn’t that right?
Her eyes widen
Her: Yes! I absolutely agree! I really don’t care about that sort of stuff.
Me: Of course, some guys are smarter. They know that women need to be sexually aroused, because they are sexual beings too. It’s not JUST about the guy.
Her: Yeah, that’s true.
Me: But you know, I think I’ve figured out the thing that makes women really enjoy the presence of a man - including sexually.
Her: Really? What is it?
Me: It’s not at all what you think it is…
Her: Tell me what it is!
Me: Comfort and trust… Comfort… and trust!
… And then I launched into the gambit, delivering it basically line for line with some breaks in between to hear her thoughts.
Her body language shifted completely after this. She took my hand in hers, pointed her knees towards me, and gave me what I believe Neil Strauss called the “doggy dinner-bowl look”.
I fractionated out, and after a while the conversation turned to TV shows. She mentioned that she likes Twilight, which I mercilessly teased her for. I asked what she liked about it:
Her: Edward Cullen. He’s so handsome and sexy.
Me: Say, have you ever read Fifty Shades of Grey?
Her: I’ve seen the movie.
Me: I’m talking about the book. It’s way more detailed.
Her: You’ve read it?
Me: Just parts of it. You know, there’s one part where they describe something super interesting that really opened my mind about female sexuality…
Her: What is it?
Me: -Did you know that women can have eight different kinds of orgasms, while men can have only three?
Of course this is total bullshit, there’s nothing in Fifty Shades of Grey about orgasms. But I’ve run this transition half a dozen times so far and no girl has ever said anything (nobody fucking reads anymore).
So I went into the Eight Orgasms routine, though only got through about four of them. I could tell she wasn’t particularly engaged in this gambit, so I cut it short. This gave me useful intel though - that she needed comfort, not arousal. I figured it was about time to pull the trigger, so I suggested we go back to mine and watch a movie. She readily agreed.
The rest was pretty straightforward. We got to my place, I poured some drinks and put on a movie on my laptop, and we sat on the bed with her resting on my chest. After about 15 minutes I began to kiss her, using push and pull to build the tension. The next time I grabbed her back with one hand and her ass with the other, kissing her neck and making my way down to her incredible breasts and hard nipples. The time after that, I picked her up and put her on top so that she was straddling me.
Then I heard the magic words:
“Do you have a condom?”
Unfortunately, I ran into one final problem, one which I’ve never had before… She was quite a small girl and I guess I’m… reasonably well-endowed? I literally could not fit inside - her pussy was tight like an asshole. I asked if she was clenching her muscles there, but she said she was totally relaxed. We tried several times between blowjobs and 69ing, but it just wouldn’t go in. I’ve honestly never had this problem with a girl before.
Later she told about the cause of her anxiety - as a teenager with a developed body, she attracted a lot of attention from men and had several traumatic sexual experiences which caused her to fear men. She actually said she’d never had a good experience of intimacy - until now (that really fed my inner saviour complex lol). So, I’m pretty sure that the years of compounded anxiety is the cause of her tightness.
So I guess technically this doesn’t count as a true LR since there was no penetration - though I tried my best and we both wanted it - it was just physically impossible. Will buy some quality lube and ciaris and see if I can break the seal next time.
(Update: Sealed the deal!)
Key Takeaways
1. I'm a sucker for the crazy girls.
2. Teevster's miraculous sex talk gambits once again saved the seduction for me. Without them, I'm sure I would have faced serious LMR. I'm going to prioritize integrating them into my game from now on, because they are just such powerful tools for controlling the sexual frame.
3. Maintaining the upper hand with social frame is important, as is patience. I should not throw wrenches in the seduction by trying to prematurely pull before the sexual key is in place (especially via text when there has been barely any sexual comfort-building or verbal escalation).
Sitting at a boutique corner cafe in Copacabana, I was reading some GC articles on my laptop and taking notes when a small, beautiful, incredibly well-endowed black girl with long braided hair and a razor-thin waist walked in. She sat at the table next to me and ordered a brownie.
After some time, struggling to focus, I turned to open her while pretending to get up to leave:
Me: Excuse me, do you speak English?
Her: Yes, I do
Me: Great. Can I tell you something?
Her: Okay
Me: This is kind of crazy but you… look exactly like my ex-girlfriend, only there’s a different sort of energy behind your eyes, like a different vibe (the classic @Gunwitch opener)
She hooked pretty quickly and we held strong eye contact. While bantering and teasing her a little, I occasionally touched her arm and elbow. She told me a few things about her: she’s 23, works in luxury hotel during the day, and plays bass in a rock band at night. I related by telling her I play guitar and took her hand to compare finger sizes.
I considered bouncing, but she mentioned that she had to go back to work, so I closed strong:
"Listen, I have to go meet a friend for lunch now, but I think you're very beautiful and I'd like to meet you for a wine or even a coffee sometime."
We exchanged numbers and texted back and forth that evening. She seemed invested enough that I quickly scheduled the date. I suggested two options - tomorrow or Friday (two days later). She said she could skip class tomorrow to hang out (a BIG investment indicator), so I went with that.
Logistics was a bit of a problem. I was staying at a place that didn’t allow visitors, and wouldn’t be moving to an independent place for another couple of days. I considered postponing the date until I was at the new place, but decided it’s better to strike while the iron is hot. I planned to use this first date to nail the Social and Emotional keys with her (of the "Three Keys" framework from SMMA), then the Sexual key on the second date using sex talk gambits and physical escalation to spike for the pull.
Since our conversation had revolved around art and music, I suggested checking out an art gallery, then a walk along the beach to grab a drink elsewhere. Normally I don’t do art galleries for first dates as they can be boring, distracting, and aren't ideal for conversation, but since it was well-located and I planned this to be a two-part date, it seemed workable. I figured that if it was boring, it would be easy to suggest moving on to the next venue where I can properly deep dive and escalate.
We met at the metro station. She was 30 minutes late and apologised profusely, which I teased her about a little. Our energies were well-matched - I found it incredibly easy to tease her and push her buttons, which carried itself throughout the entire date. I don’t know why this happens for me with certain types of girls. But being aware not to overdo it and seem like a dancing monkey, I made an effort to fractionate the teasing with regular chit-chat.
Kino was strong throughout - holding her hand to cross the road, guiding her around by the back of her waist, pulling her in when I made a dumb joke, etc. I was almost concerned I might be overdoing it and cause a negative FSC reaction, but fortunately she was invested enough that it didn’t happen.
The art gallery turned out to be a total bore as expected, but the teasing and joking kept things energised between us. After 20 minutes I led her to the beach. Found a nice spot on a sea wall by the marina, facing a full moon. While sitting there, I ran a couple of my emotional stimulator stories that I have memorised and a cold read, along with the love languages routine. I also ran the Self-control is Sexy gambit, which elicited a very positive reaction.
I got a lot of frame tests from her, and I could tell she was feeling nervous about kissing. I told her it’s my job to try and her job to resist. She laughed at that. I kissed her softly and she didn't resist. Later I kissed here again, a little more passionately.
After a while, we got up and walked further down the beach. At that point I realised I’d better wrap things up soon to avoid an emotional state crash by spiking further (since I didn’t have the logistics to pull), so after another half hour of walking and talking, I told her I’d better head home to finish some work. She asked when we could see each other again, and we agreed on Friday (two days later) and said goodbye at the metro station.
Things went a little unexpected on the second date. We met for drinks and a swim at the beach, and it was my intention to verbally escalate and pull later that evening. However, she told me after showing up that she had band practice at 7pm. Ugh…
I tried to hide my disappointment, but she could sense it. I told her that I had hoped to spend more time with her, and she apologised. I could tell she genuinely felt bad about it. It didn’t help that she was on anxiety meds that day, so she was spaced out like a zombie and that changed the vibe (massive red flag, I know, but I’m a sucker for the hot crazy girls - it will probably be the death of me one day lol).
We went for the swim and the açai. Since I knew I couldn’t pull that day, I didn’t run any of the sexual escalation material I had planned, which was frustrating because I felt that the social frame was already strong enough (plenty of compliance) and I’d already used most of my emotional material, so this was really the only missing key. As punishment for her behaviour, whenever the vibe started to escalate, I broke it by reminding her that she had band practice later. I would use the stick today and the carrot next time. It worked - she apologised several times and said that she would clear her evening for me next time.
Here’s were things started to veer off track. Sensing that she was invested and the social frame was advantageous to me (her owing me for the messed up date), I texted her suggesting to come over after band practice. She declined, saying that she would be too tired as she had to work the next day.
This was a mistake for two reasons. First, it generated unnecessary negative momentum which hurt my frame. Second, by going for the pull before I had even properly sexually aroused her (I had intentionally neglected the Sexual Key material up till that point), I revealed my hand prematurely.
We had scheduled another date for Sunday, but I could already tell that there was something wrong with the frame from the following exchange via text:
(Talking about baking)
Me: Baking is a nostalgic activity for me
Her: Really? Tell me more
Me: Tomorrow *winky face*
Her: Control yourself *winky face*
Me: I meant I’ll tell you tomorrow
Her: And I’m telling you to be a good boy
Her: And behave
Me: Um okay lol
Her: Just messing with you haha
Me: Haha
Me: So anyway, I was thinking maybe we could rent bikes and go around the lake
Me: Then grab a drink in Ipanema
This was at 7:30pm, and I didn’t get a response from her until the next day. In my mind, I assumed the worst and that she had completely changed her mind about me. She replied the next morning though agreeing to the date plan. But I knew from her frame grab attempt that she probably now thought I just wanted to get into her pants, and so I would be facing serious LMR.
With the sexual frame somewhat ruined, I figured my best chance would be by taking a step back physically and running some comforting sex talk gambits to communicate to her that I am a guy who understands women and not just a horny tourist. I decided the best gambits to achieve this would be the Comfort & Trust gambit followed by the Eight Orgasms routine, so I memorised the hell out of them and even recited them in front of the mirror (autistic I know, but I REALLY wanted to seal the deal with this girl).
It was raining that day, so we just met for drinks instead. At first, the vibe was bouncy again like the first date. I was purposefully being a little more distant though, since I wanted to verbally convey sexual understanding before physically escalating again. But I was still teasing her to keep her emotionally engaged.
We reached the bar, I sat us down at a table where we could sit next to each other, and ordered the drinks. At some point in the conversation, she asked me about other girls I’ve dated in my travels, which I deflected with humor (five wives, one for each continent). I used this as a launchpad for the first gambit:
“So, I’m curious, what’s it like dating Brazilian guys?”
She told me the experience has mostly been negative for her because they’re super direct and aggressive. This provided the perfect transition for me:
(borrowing this almost verbatim from @Teevster's gambit - link above)
Me: You know, it’s funny how most guys don’t understand women at all. They think they can impress girls by showing off and bragging, and that this will get them aroused. But the truth is… girls don’t find that sexy at all, isn’t that right?
Her eyes widen
Her: Yes! I absolutely agree! I really don’t care about that sort of stuff.
Me: Of course, some guys are smarter. They know that women need to be sexually aroused, because they are sexual beings too. It’s not JUST about the guy.
Her: Yeah, that’s true.
Me: But you know, I think I’ve figured out the thing that makes women really enjoy the presence of a man - including sexually.
Her: Really? What is it?
Me: It’s not at all what you think it is…
Her: Tell me what it is!
Me: Comfort and trust… Comfort… and trust!
… And then I launched into the gambit, delivering it basically line for line with some breaks in between to hear her thoughts.
Her body language shifted completely after this. She took my hand in hers, pointed her knees towards me, and gave me what I believe Neil Strauss called the “doggy dinner-bowl look”.
I fractionated out, and after a while the conversation turned to TV shows. She mentioned that she likes Twilight, which I mercilessly teased her for. I asked what she liked about it:
Her: Edward Cullen. He’s so handsome and sexy.
Me: Say, have you ever read Fifty Shades of Grey?
Her: I’ve seen the movie.
Me: I’m talking about the book. It’s way more detailed.
Her: You’ve read it?
Me: Just parts of it. You know, there’s one part where they describe something super interesting that really opened my mind about female sexuality…
Her: What is it?
Me: -Did you know that women can have eight different kinds of orgasms, while men can have only three?
Of course this is total bullshit, there’s nothing in Fifty Shades of Grey about orgasms. But I’ve run this transition half a dozen times so far and no girl has ever said anything (nobody fucking reads anymore).
So I went into the Eight Orgasms routine, though only got through about four of them. I could tell she wasn’t particularly engaged in this gambit, so I cut it short. This gave me useful intel though - that she needed comfort, not arousal. I figured it was about time to pull the trigger, so I suggested we go back to mine and watch a movie. She readily agreed.
The rest was pretty straightforward. We got to my place, I poured some drinks and put on a movie on my laptop, and we sat on the bed with her resting on my chest. After about 15 minutes I began to kiss her, using push and pull to build the tension. The next time I grabbed her back with one hand and her ass with the other, kissing her neck and making my way down to her incredible breasts and hard nipples. The time after that, I picked her up and put her on top so that she was straddling me.
Then I heard the magic words:
“Do you have a condom?”
Unfortunately, I ran into one final problem, one which I’ve never had before… She was quite a small girl and I guess I’m… reasonably well-endowed? I literally could not fit inside - her pussy was tight like an asshole. I asked if she was clenching her muscles there, but she said she was totally relaxed. We tried several times between blowjobs and 69ing, but it just wouldn’t go in. I’ve honestly never had this problem with a girl before.
Later she told about the cause of her anxiety - as a teenager with a developed body, she attracted a lot of attention from men and had several traumatic sexual experiences which caused her to fear men. She actually said she’d never had a good experience of intimacy - until now (that really fed my inner saviour complex lol). So, I’m pretty sure that the years of compounded anxiety is the cause of her tightness.
So I guess technically this doesn’t count as a true LR since there was no penetration - though I tried my best and we both wanted it - it was just physically impossible. Will buy some quality lube and ciaris and see if I can break the seal next time.
(Update: Sealed the deal!)
Key Takeaways
1. I'm a sucker for the crazy girls.
2. Teevster's miraculous sex talk gambits once again saved the seduction for me. Without them, I'm sure I would have faced serious LMR. I'm going to prioritize integrating them into my game from now on, because they are just such powerful tools for controlling the sexual frame.
3. Maintaining the upper hand with social frame is important, as is patience. I should not throw wrenches in the seduction by trying to prematurely pull before the sexual key is in place (especially via text when there has been barely any sexual comfort-building or verbal escalation).
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