Serious problems with women...

[HumanWhoLearns]

I just realized walking around the mall today (to get some exercise and try to talk to some women) that my past failures with women is what makes me so nervous to approach and if I do, then I'm just a nervous wreck who freezes and isn't remotely attractive.

I also can't get a girl to respond to my messages online, it's been like that for 5 years or so. Even girls who match with me on tinder don't respond.

I've had a handful of good opportunities in my life to maybe get a woman, but I dropped the ball on all of them.

My depression has gotten better, but this whole constantly getting rejected or ignored by girls thing really eats at me.

 

[JacobPalmer]

I just realized walking around the mall today (to get some exercise and try to talk to some women) that my past failures with women is what makes me so nervous to approach and if I do, then I'm just a nervous wreck who freezes and isn't remotely attractive.

I also can't get a girl to respond to my messages online, it's been like that for 5 years or so. Even girls who match with me on tinder don't respond.

I've had a handful of good opportunities in my life to maybe get a woman, but I dropped the ball on all of them.

My depression has gotten better, but this whole constantly getting rejected or ignored by girls thing really eats at me.

I feel ya, I've been there too. So let's go through a few things:

1. You're not the same person you were in the past. You're better and stronger, and you will continue to get better and stronger. Think about that the next time you approach.
2. Your messages online....what do you message? And if the opener is good and they aren't responding, my guess is either your opener isn't that great, or your SMV/fundamentals (sexual market value) is too low comparatively. And yeah you probably have worked on your SMV and fundamentals, but I'm willing to bet it could be a whole lot better. (or they're just on for validation)
3. You've dropped the ball a few times, but you also have to think that you've had the opportunity with these women in the past, and you can get back into these opportunities again in the future.

Don't give up, but be honest with yourself with how much effort you're putting into increasing your fundamentals, and work harder on those.

 

[Ambiance]

Just keep pushing man, that's all that separates those who eventually succeed and those who don't. Your depression will go away once you start getting girls at a level you feel is acceptable. In the meantime, read Chase's stuff and apply it. Upgrade your fundamentals to shorten your learning curve, and keep putting yourself out there!