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Sex Talk Gambit: Strangers Vs Lovers

TomInHo

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Here is a gambit I use mid-late game to gauge a girls receptiveness to fast sex, handle objections and arouse her. The setup is very simple and all you have to do is lay down some sexual frames and have light conversation about sex before asking this basic question

"What's hotter?... Sex with a mysterious attractive stranger or sex with a long term partner?

This will give you intel for where she is at in the seduction. Because if she says sex with a stranger is hot then you know you're wasting your time and she doesn't like you at all.

JK :giggle:... it means she's probably DTF and it would be wise to start setting up the pull

But what if she says she prefers sex with a long term partner? This could be problematic because you're obviously not a long term partner and this can be seen as a light objection. Luckily an objection is not the end of the world but rather an opportunity to show the girl that you are the right man for her.... And we do this with Pacing and Leading


PACE
Oh yes, that's so true. When you have sex with a long term partner it can be so intense. You know each other inside and out. The connection you have takes the sex to new heights because it bonds you together. Plus, because of the history you both know exactly how to please each other and reach orgasmic bliss together


*Start by pacing her reality, which is fancy talk for agree with her and tell her what she wants to hear... She will obviously agree here then you proceed to lead and reframe the objection*


LEAD
It's truly amazing but sex with a stranger has it's own unique appeal to it. You get to experience the initial connection you have blossom into chemistry then later explode into pure desire. The anticipation you feel in the moment drives the excitement to new levels and you get the pleasure of exploring someone physically and emotionally for the very first time. It's quite the rush that can't be recreated long term so I think both are dope so can't pick.... And also when you think about it hard, all long term lovers began as strangers at some point


Usually the girl can never deny what you said wasn’t true. It builds rapport, reframes her objection, subcomms you're a man with experience that get's it and also stimulates her within her social frame for how she would love to be seduced

Try it out and don't be surprised if she randomly becomes curious about where you live and if you have roommates ;)

*EDIT FOR CALIBRATION*
Almost forgot... this is not a gambit that should be used all the time. It works best on girls that were not fully compliant with your prior sexual frames, selling purity, telling you they're over meaningless hook-ups and also future projecting a lot

As in women that are attracted to you but seem to be angling for a relationship. So you use this to bring the objection to the surface and demolish it with the reframe
 
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DoWhatWorks

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#Bacchus level unlocked ;)

Jokes aside this is a solid re-frame. Should of done it on a recent date too but anyway...

For the benefit of lurkers, a re-frame I accidently stumbled on for late stage seduction is

"You know what, I think you're super cool, it's obvious we're compatible but not sure if we'd match sex drive wise..."

Ideally saying this after a couple escalations where she's affectionate but holding back and after you mentioned how sex is a key part of relationships and she enthusiastically agrees because what person wouldn't?

This flips the script to where in her head to get what she wants (a LTR) she needs to have fast sex. The fast sex is now not slutty because it's just a natural first step to ending up in a relationship with you...

Girl literally escalated on me after I said it and I was embarrassed that I hadn't thought of that angle earlier
 

TomInHo

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#Bacchus level unlocked ;)

Jokes aside this is a solid re-frame. Should of done it on a recent date too but anyway...

For the benefit of lurkers, a re-frame I accidently stumbled on for late stage seduction is

"You know what, I think you're super cool, it's obvious we're compatible but not sure if we'd match sex drive wise..."

Ideally saying this after a couple escalations where she's affectionate but holding back and after you mentioned how sex is a key part of relationships and she enthusiastically agrees because what person wouldn't?

This flips the script to where in her head to get what she wants (a LTR) she needs to have fast sex. The fast sex is now not slutty because it's just a natural first step to ending up in a relationship with you...

Girl literally escalated on me after I said it and I was embarrassed that I hadn't thought of that angle earlier

Love this angle too. Framing it like if she doesn’t match your standard she is risking getting friendzoned. Can see this working well with girls that you notice during escalation have put you in the boyfriend zone and are concerned what sex really means to you

“I like him so much, but if I fuck fast him will he think I’m easy?”
 
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