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The title of this LR is a reference to The Saint, a movie I watched a couple of days ago which Chase has mentioned multiple times as being one of his early inspirations in seduction. After watching it, I now understand why.
The movie follows an international thief who is a master of changing identities. He takes on various characters throughout the film (each named after a saint), one of which is Thomas Moore, a seductive artist and poet.
The movie itself is not particularly engaging, but there are several scenes with this Thomas Moore character which are worth analyzing from a seduction standpoint. Evidently the director himself understands seduction or at least the psychology of it, because everything this character does reflects what is taught on GirlsChase. His tone of voice, his mannerisms, his looks and style, his words and actions - everything is carefully crafted for maximum seductive impact. He uses techniques like deep diving, future projection, push-pull and arousal spikes while deftly avoiding ASD (building up her floor while avoiding breaching her ceiling).
I won't talk too much about the movie here, but I recommend watching it yourself, or at least read @Chase's article about being smooth, in which he breaks down one of the key scenes from the movie.
Anyway, I'm going on a tangent here, but recently I've been reading and thinking a lot about fundamentals - specifically about the key to crafting a seductive vibe and being smooth. It's one thing to read articles about what needs to be done, it's entirely another thing to see it in action. That's the value I gained from watching this movie. I think the human brain evolved to be adept at copying the behavior of others we look up to, and that's why things clicked for me after watching The Saint.
The next day, I went out for an experiment - I decided to do some approaches imitating the character Thomas Moore and see what happens. The character was still fresh in my mind, so it was easy to do so - slowing down my speech, holding strong, seductive eye contact, and speaking in a low, calm voice.
On my way home from a gym workout and lunch at the mall, I spotted a pretty cute girl in a low-cut black dress standing by the bathroom, waiting for someone. We made eye contact, I flashed a sexy smile, and she smiled back. I continued walking for a few seconds, then circled back and opened with a direct compliment about her fashion.
Maintaining firm eye contact, I made an assumption that she works in fashion. She said she doesn't, but she just graduated and works as a model sometimes, and was on the way to a photoshoot. I deep dived a little and threw out some screens, imitating Val Kilmer's seductive voice. She began qualifying herself to me.
It sucked her right in. She was gazing into my eyes, and there were long pauses pregnant with sexual tension. I occassionally broke the tension with a mundame comment or question about this or that, but doing so in a less enthusiastic tone of voice and always maintaining the firm eye contact. At one point I brushed a stray hair back behind her ear, and said she has such beautiful eyes, which I could see excited her.
Honestly it blew my mind, I don't think I've ever had that effect on a woman in my life. I felt like I could have escalated then and there (with the right logistics I would have tried). Instead I number-closed with: "I have to go now, but you're very interesting and beautiful. We should meet for a coffee or matcha sometime." She enthusiastically agreed.
We met for a drink two days later.
It was a pretty straightforward path from the bar to the ice cream shop to my bed. She seemed to be just as entranced by me as she was the day I approached her.
The only thing was, I wasn't sure how long I'd be able to maintain the character for. It was already starting to slip a little on the date - though I don't think that's a bad thing. I think the ideal way to use a persona like this is to channel them on the initial approach, then over time gradually slip back into your regular personality. If you keep acting for the entire seduction, inevitably you will crack and lose congruity.
After we got to my place and settled in, I poured some water and put on some reggaeton tracks (turns out she was very much into Latin music and culture, so she LOVED it when I spoke Spanish to her), she basically jumped on me and pulled my clothes off, then went straight to suck my dick without me even suggesting it to her. I was pretty stupefied by this, because Asian girls do not normally behave like this. They're usually rather passive and shy, putting up lots of token resistance. This girl just wanted to eat me.
The sex was hot. She rode my dick, moving her hips to the beat of Bad Bunny. We did every position, and even 69ed for a while. Banged her twice, and tried for a third time but her pussy was too sore by then (lol) even though she was wet.
My only doubt is, was it really me who seduced her or was it "Thomas Moore"...? I was not pretending anymore after the sex, though I don't think it mattered by then.
In any case, I'm going to experiment more with movie characters. I do think it's a helpful way to put good fundamentals into autopilot rather than trying to be conscious of all the details individually (posture, tone of voice, pregnant pauses, eye contact, etc).
The ultimate goal would be to create a new persona that is a mix of various seductive movie characters plus aspects of my authentic self - someone I can channel to hook girls in, then gradually slip out of over time.
Sidenote: One of my favourite scenes from the movie - which is just prior to the scene shown in Chase's How to be Smooth article:
(The master-of-disguise thief - after reading the journal notes of the girl he needs to seduce in order to acquire her formula for cold fusion...)
"Tratiak's wrong. She's not cagey, she's not difficult. She's just eccentric, she's innocent...
Maybe it's in her head...
She needs a poet, an artist, someone who understands truth..."
(He looks over at a portrait of a man with long hair and a hand placed on the shoulder of a beaming young girl. A knowing smile spreads across his face.)
"She needs Thomas Moore."
The movie follows an international thief who is a master of changing identities. He takes on various characters throughout the film (each named after a saint), one of which is Thomas Moore, a seductive artist and poet.
The movie itself is not particularly engaging, but there are several scenes with this Thomas Moore character which are worth analyzing from a seduction standpoint. Evidently the director himself understands seduction or at least the psychology of it, because everything this character does reflects what is taught on GirlsChase. His tone of voice, his mannerisms, his looks and style, his words and actions - everything is carefully crafted for maximum seductive impact. He uses techniques like deep diving, future projection, push-pull and arousal spikes while deftly avoiding ASD (building up her floor while avoiding breaching her ceiling).
I won't talk too much about the movie here, but I recommend watching it yourself, or at least read @Chase's article about being smooth, in which he breaks down one of the key scenes from the movie.
Anyway, I'm going on a tangent here, but recently I've been reading and thinking a lot about fundamentals - specifically about the key to crafting a seductive vibe and being smooth. It's one thing to read articles about what needs to be done, it's entirely another thing to see it in action. That's the value I gained from watching this movie. I think the human brain evolved to be adept at copying the behavior of others we look up to, and that's why things clicked for me after watching The Saint.
The next day, I went out for an experiment - I decided to do some approaches imitating the character Thomas Moore and see what happens. The character was still fresh in my mind, so it was easy to do so - slowing down my speech, holding strong, seductive eye contact, and speaking in a low, calm voice.
On my way home from a gym workout and lunch at the mall, I spotted a pretty cute girl in a low-cut black dress standing by the bathroom, waiting for someone. We made eye contact, I flashed a sexy smile, and she smiled back. I continued walking for a few seconds, then circled back and opened with a direct compliment about her fashion.
Maintaining firm eye contact, I made an assumption that she works in fashion. She said she doesn't, but she just graduated and works as a model sometimes, and was on the way to a photoshoot. I deep dived a little and threw out some screens, imitating Val Kilmer's seductive voice. She began qualifying herself to me.
It sucked her right in. She was gazing into my eyes, and there were long pauses pregnant with sexual tension. I occassionally broke the tension with a mundame comment or question about this or that, but doing so in a less enthusiastic tone of voice and always maintaining the firm eye contact. At one point I brushed a stray hair back behind her ear, and said she has such beautiful eyes, which I could see excited her.
Honestly it blew my mind, I don't think I've ever had that effect on a woman in my life. I felt like I could have escalated then and there (with the right logistics I would have tried). Instead I number-closed with: "I have to go now, but you're very interesting and beautiful. We should meet for a coffee or matcha sometime." She enthusiastically agreed.
We met for a drink two days later.
It was a pretty straightforward path from the bar to the ice cream shop to my bed. She seemed to be just as entranced by me as she was the day I approached her.
The only thing was, I wasn't sure how long I'd be able to maintain the character for. It was already starting to slip a little on the date - though I don't think that's a bad thing. I think the ideal way to use a persona like this is to channel them on the initial approach, then over time gradually slip back into your regular personality. If you keep acting for the entire seduction, inevitably you will crack and lose congruity.
After we got to my place and settled in, I poured some water and put on some reggaeton tracks (turns out she was very much into Latin music and culture, so she LOVED it when I spoke Spanish to her), she basically jumped on me and pulled my clothes off, then went straight to suck my dick without me even suggesting it to her. I was pretty stupefied by this, because Asian girls do not normally behave like this. They're usually rather passive and shy, putting up lots of token resistance. This girl just wanted to eat me.
The sex was hot. She rode my dick, moving her hips to the beat of Bad Bunny. We did every position, and even 69ed for a while. Banged her twice, and tried for a third time but her pussy was too sore by then (lol) even though she was wet.
My only doubt is, was it really me who seduced her or was it "Thomas Moore"...? I was not pretending anymore after the sex, though I don't think it mattered by then.
In any case, I'm going to experiment more with movie characters. I do think it's a helpful way to put good fundamentals into autopilot rather than trying to be conscious of all the details individually (posture, tone of voice, pregnant pauses, eye contact, etc).
The ultimate goal would be to create a new persona that is a mix of various seductive movie characters plus aspects of my authentic self - someone I can channel to hook girls in, then gradually slip out of over time.
Sidenote: One of my favourite scenes from the movie - which is just prior to the scene shown in Chase's How to be Smooth article:
(The master-of-disguise thief - after reading the journal notes of the girl he needs to seduce in order to acquire her formula for cold fusion...)
"Tratiak's wrong. She's not cagey, she's not difficult. She's just eccentric, she's innocent...
Maybe it's in her head...
She needs a poet, an artist, someone who understands truth..."
(He looks over at a portrait of a man with long hair and a hand placed on the shoulder of a beaming young girl. A knowing smile spreads across his face.)
"She needs Thomas Moore."
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