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SHIT TEST THREAD: What shit tests do you encounter regularly?

sneaky_charm

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(Request to Franco: Sorry, can you please move this thread somewhere else. I didn't realize that I posted it under Field Reports!)

I was reflecting on my past interactions, and I'm quite surprised that I didn't even realize that I was shit tested on many occasions.

Some tests were:

TEST 1

This girl was walking toward me on the sidewalk with groceries.

Me: Hi!
Her: Hey!
Me: I just saw you from there, and wanted to meet you.
Her: Oh okay. Let's move over there. (Innocent-seeming command.)

I actually faltered here, and accepted readily. I think the best thing to do is move on your own terms, by saying something like "Well I don't have much time actually. Let's just move a bit slightly. So...." and change the topic.


TEST 2

There was this little event, and this hottie was about to do a ramp walk on stage. I met her backstage.

Me: Hi, you look beautiful!
Her: Oh thanks! (Smiling.)
Me: Come over here.
Her: I have a boyfriend. (Checking if I back out, and back out I did.)

Not addressing the statement as if it doesn't matter, and asking something immediately works.
Or, say something like "That's great. I have no intention of replacing him. So..." in an uninterested and bored tone.



TEST 3

She was cute and sitting with 2 of her girl friends in a park. I could tell she was interested. We bantered a bit, and then....

Me: Let's take a walk.
Her: I think I should stay with my friends. (Still smiling. Resistance.)

After asking once more, I didn't persist. The best thing to do is persist in a smooth way till she budges.


TEST 4

She was a college friend, and we kissed that day.

Her: You don't love me, do you? (Checking if I give a weak response.)

I said "I don't know.", and kept it as non-emotional as I could. What the fuck.


TEST 5

The same chick.

Her: Can you hold my purse for a second, I'll just come back from the store. (Command.)

I just laughed and declined.


TEST 6

I number closed this chick about a week ago, and decided to meet for a coffee. Bitch was walking fine.

Her: I hurt my leg. Can you see if that shop has a band aid? (Innocent-seeming command.)

I just said "Oh I don't think it does. Let's go."


If you are an intermediate or advanced, you must have got the above tests a thousand times. I am still on the beginner side, so haven't encountered those very sneaky and tricky tests. I have to get out more, ugh!

So what tests did you encounter till now?

THE GOAL OF MAKING THIS THREAD IS TO CREATE A PLACE WHERE MANY SHIT TEST VARIETIES CAN BE FOUND FOR REFERENCE.
 

luego

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"I'm not looking for a relationship" - I've gotten this twice recently, from girls who will go on dates with me, even when I end up sleeping with the girl. I'm still trying to properly reply. It could be I just need to stop chasing party girls. I can reply with a "Good [grin]. Let's just take it as it goes". But I have to maintain congruence.

"I have a date tonight". I got this in my most recent debacle/heartbreak. I've since learned from here the CORRECT response is "[grin]. K, when you realize he's boring, give me a call later". Instead, I acted like a pussy and pulled the plug on the whole thing, thereafter trying to salvage.
 

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I still find it hard to distinguish what's shit test or not, because you're not deliberately trying to be an asshole but you also have your own personal boundaries.
For example, I wouldn't consider test 1 and 2 as shit tests.
I rarely encounter "shit tests" these days ( or that I'm not aware of it)
The latest bullshit a girl has given me is when I texted her to meet up and she said sure, but she wanted me to go see her, which I didn't mind because I was nearby. Then she gave me really vague directions. I was getting pretty annoyed trying to find her, and I actually had enough and was thinking about calling it off (which is exactly what I should have done). But I called her and she finally came to find me. But it already set a bad frame, so it didn't end well anyway.

I think not everything is a shit test, and it's a very PUA thing to do to interpret everything as shit tests and actually puts you in your head even more as you tend to overanalzye.
Sometimes, girls honestly don't even know they're "shit testing" you. They're humans. I don't believe they consciously shit test you every chance they get.
In bars and nightclubs, these might happen a lot, but I think outside these environments, they don't happen as often as you think.
I think of "shit tests" as a girl's way of testing your strength for freedom from outcome.
 

sneaky_charm

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Smith said:
I think not everything is a shit test, and it's a very PUA thing to do to interpret everything as shit tests and actually puts you in your head even more as you tend to overanalzye.
Sometimes, girls honestly don't even know they're "shit testing" you. They're humans. I don't believe they consciously shit test you every chance they get.

That's a nice perspective. Will have to try to not worry about those much!
 

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Moved this one to General.

@ Sneaky,

Quick thoughts:

sneaky_charm said:
This girl was walking toward me on the sidewalk with groceries.

Me: Hi!
Her: Hey!
Me: I just saw you from there, and wanted to meet you.
Her: Oh okay. Let's move over there. (Innocent-seeming command.)

Strong sign of interest. Don't worry too much about yielding the lead if she is driving things forward. There was basically no skepticism from her at all here and she essentially just completely candidly said, "Okay, let's get to know each other."

Just respond with something like "Great idea, here's perfect" or even escalate a little further and say "Sure, perfect - we can rest against this wall so you aren't holding a heavy bag of groceries." Something that shows some consideration or leadership is ideal, but if you can't think of anything on the spot, just say "Sure" and continue on with the interaction after the move.

sneaky_charm said:
Me: Hi, you look beautiful!
Her: Oh thanks! (Smiling.)
Me: Come over here.
Her: I have a boyfriend. (Checking if I back out, and back out I did.)

A little tease here followed by reiterating your command, like, "He never needs to know. Just come here for a moment," works best. A bit of a sly James-Bond-making-a-sardonic-comment-to-an-impulsive-but-naïve-young-woman type facial expression goes well with this.

sneaky_charm said:
Me: Let's take a walk.
Her: I think I should stay with my friends. (Still smiling. Resistance.)

You, to friends, overly playful/dramatic: "May I borrow her for two minutes? We're going to take a walk over to that tree, we'll be right in eyeshot." 60/40 they say 'yes' if you do this right, even if she said 'no' originally but seemed happy or on the fence about it.

Then she will either go with you, or resist; if they say yes they'll generally urge her to go with you because they think it's fun / funny / you seem like a good match for their friend. Don't urge her yourself though; once you invite the friends they do all the urging.

If she still won't go with you, talk to the friends, "I don't know, I guess she doesn't like me," faux dramatic / faux sad (important to seem playfully sad and not legitimately let down here if you want their help - this only works if the words you are saying seem ironic given your countenance), and see if they'll play matchmaker for you any further. I've had a few times with situations like this where the friend or friends will make the girl in question trade numbers with me and tell me they'll make sure she meets up with me (I've had lays go down this way, that never would've happened without the friends orchestrating things, either because the girl didn't like me enough originally or she was too shy).

sneaky_charm said:
She was a college friend, and we kissed that day.

Her: You don't love me, do you? (Checking if I give a weak response.)

I said "I don't know.", and kept it as non-emotional as I could. What the fuck.

Dearest Catherine, of course I love you. I have always loved you, from the moment I first laid eyes on you. I feel certain that it was written in my heart that you and I were destined to be from before the time I formed inside my mother's womb.

Flirt with girls. Play with them. Be romantic. It's incredibly exciting to them. You don't actually have to sleep with her if you'd rather keep her as a friend, but it's fun to do and free practice for the girls you DO want.

sneaky_charm said:
Her: Can you hold my purse for a second, I'll just come back from the store. (Command.)

I just laughed and declined.

The Sad Tale of "Shopping Guy"

sneaky_charm said:
I number closed this chick about a week ago, and decided to meet for a coffee. Bitch was walking fine.

Her: I hurt my leg. Can you see if that shop has a band aid? (Innocent-seeming command.)

I just said "Oh I don't think it does. Let's go."

Better idea:

  • Her: I hurt my leg. Can you see if that shop has a band aid? (Innocent-seeming command.)

    You: I have a better idea. Come here [sit down on bench or half wall]. Sit next to me [pat seat]. Okay, which leg? [she answers] Give me your leg. Where's it hurt?

Then blow on the wound, kiss it (if it's just a bruise), massage it. If she has jeans on roll the pant leg up to expose the skin where the wound is.

Think of these "tests" as coming in two flavors: ones from girls who are skeptical about you and want to see what happens when they put the pressure on (that's actually a test of sorts), and ones from girls who like you and want to trigger some kind of exciting / romantic / sexual / playful scenario and help you help the seduction along (these get lumped in by guys as "tests" often, but they're not really tests; they're a guarded way of her giving you a chance to seduce her that she can play off as a "test" if you act clumsy or miss the signal).

Most of these actually examples are ones where the girl is giving you an "in" to better seduce her. Take advantage of them to get playful and romantic, or even sexual like in the leg example.

Any time a girl complains about something on her body, you should use that as a chance to get her to let you examine that part of her body, touch it, roll the clothing on it back, etc. That's what she's HOPING you'll do if she's into you, and even if she struggles you get to treat it like overcoming LMR basically; she wants to feel you overcoming her resistance. It's essentially a dress rehearsal for what happens when she finds herself alone with you, and if you make it a sensual and fun encounter she'll become quite excited about what is to come (it also often really shaves down the LMR you face later if you handle this right, and basically primes her to be receptive to your advances).


@ Luego,

luego said:
"I'm not looking for a relationship" - I've gotten this twice recently, from girls who will go on dates with me, even when I end up sleeping with the girl. I'm still trying to properly reply. It could be I just need to stop chasing party girls. I can reply with a "Good [grin]. Let's just take it as it goes". But I have to maintain congruence.

Shorten it a bit, and you're golden. Just say "Good" and smile. Whether it's actually what you want or you in fact want something more, the curiosity will kill her either way.

luego said:
"I have a date tonight". I got this in my most recent debacle/heartbreak. I've since learned from here the CORRECT response is "[grin]. K, when you realize he's boring, give me a call later". Instead, I acted like a pussy and pulled the plug on the whole thing, thereafter trying to salvage.

I prefer "Okay. If you guys aren't having wild monkey sex after it's over, give me a call or shoot me a text."

Chase
 

sneaky_charm

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Thank you so much Chase! Wow, I had no idea I was interpreting those so wrong! Lol, thank you! :)
 
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