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Marty

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Hey folks, I'm reposting this separately as I realized burying it at the bottom of the FR Bastion isn't the smartest idea... but I do need some texting help.

Yesterday around 12:45 PM I sat down next to a chick sunning herself outside an office building ("like a reptile" as I delicately put it!) to warm up on account of the poorly-adjusted air conditioning in her building.

Within 5 minutes I had her hooked; it was surprisingly easy once she inadvertently helped me out by making a slip, and thus setting the tone of the entire interaction. The conversation proceeded very naturally... banter about the cold-blooded sunning, then exchanged names a couple minutes in, then asked her which office building it was, had her point it out, brief convo about what I'd heard regarding its poor state of repair (banter again), then I ask her what she does there. This is where she tries to get difficult: "What do I do? ... Well, I don't really do much" and it's like a gift to me, having been prepped by this site—I disengage and give a very "bored look" into the distance.

All of a sudden she's chasing, in a mad rush to qualify herself. At this point I'm wishing I'd voice-recorded the whole interaction. She trips over herself a couple times and the best bit is when she says: "Yeah, totally, I completely agree with that" (to some remark where I've essentially rephrased what she said herself), then two minutes later she starts off again "Yeah, totally, I completely ag—" before she realizes she's sounding like a broken record and lays off. It's so obvious, it's funny.

I think it's the first time I've consciously noticed a woman forcing rapport. When I tell her what I do myself, she's like "That's so cool!" and actually starts bouncing up and down a bit where she's sitting. I reward her by touching her upper arm a couple times and when I ask her out she says she can basically make herself free for most things.

Now girl who's so confident she can make herself free, aside from a full-time job, has two kids 14 and 12 (!)—and before you start saying she's past it, she's HOT. I was basically trying to figure out for the earlier part of the conversation how long she'd been out of college, she looked so young. Realistically she's probably around 5 years younger than me which would mean she had the first child at 19 or so—entirely possible. When she told me about the children I said with detached curiosity: "I wouldn't have thought it. You're CUTE. What do you do to stay in such shape?"

So she asks for my business card and I tell her yes, I do have one, but make no effort to search for it, instead say: "I'll take your phone number anyway" and have her key it in before the card makes an appearance. When asked she says I can call anytime before 9:30 PM (she works 7 AM–3 PM, so she needs her beauty sleep!) and if she's available, she'll take the call. I text her a very brief icebreaker about 2 hours after parting; she doesn't reply, so I call around 8:45 PM and leave a brief voice message.

This morning at 9:30 AM I get the following text:

  • Hi, Marty -- nice chatting with you as well. I know I said I'd be open to coffee, but I think I should decline. I just started seeing someone and, though there's no "official" exclusivity, I think my attention (and possibly my heart) is spoken for at this point. Please forgive my change in response -- our conversation yesterday was so unexpected that I was unable to process my sense of hesitation in the moment. Okay if I shoot you a txt or call if things change?
Note the length :) It takes up a whole iPhone screen...

What I want to somehow communicate is that I am unimpressed, and get her qualifying herself again, but NOT a butthurt beta exasperation... more like an expectation that she will work for me to undo her misstep.

How's this sound:

  • SlimMilf, listen, you can keep your guy, I'm not seeking to fill his shoes... more like supplement your diet whenever you're bored ;) Think of me as your "guilty pleasure" :) Meet me 3 PM Friday, same place as before and let's just chat and see where things go: you can leave whenever you want!
I know this is clumsy. That's why I'm asking you fellas to set me straight.

Thank you!!

-Marty
 

Grand Pooba

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Marty. My gut response with this one is "move on, find someone else who is more available." You're probably not going to hear from her, it sounds like she made up her mind already.

You can either let her get back to you (play nice) and you'll probably not hear back. Or follow up with her in a month.

Alternatively, push the limit. I would send something like the following but would not expect any sort of response:

"<Name> - hey! Appreciate the honesty; maybe your attention and heart are spoken for, but I bet there's a lot more about you that needs to be filled ;). Why don't we meet Friday and continue exploring the unexpected?"
 

Eternity

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You: tl;dr (too long didn't read)

Less is more with texting.
leave it at that and see if she bites. Let me see what she texts back and i'll tell you what to say next. Either way you got nothing to lose.
 

Eternity

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Marty said:
  • SlimMilf, listen, you can keep your guy, I'm not seeking to fill his shoes... more like supplement your diet whenever you're bored ;) Think of me as your "guilty pleasure" :) Meet me 3 PM Friday, same place as before and let's just chat and see where things go: you can leave whenever you want!
I know this is clumsy. That's why I'm asking you fellas to set me straight.

Screams: "I'll do whatever you decide on your terms and whenever you wish." You are giving her the power with that message, you are letting her decide. Nope. She has to let you decide if you want to see her again and if she's worthy of your time, not the other way around. Send mine and if she bites she bites, if not move on and game on.
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

Marty

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Eternity: I see where you're coming from, but I don't think my in-person game is quite at the level yet where this would be congruent. I like the idea though :) I can see myself doing this down the line when I get just a little bit "nastier"!

Ozzo: I love this suggestion... "needs to be filled", LOL :) Gives exactly the right message. Now:

When she told me about her work and how she'd gotten there, she started talking about how it was "right" for her and "meant to be" and "what the gods wanted" or some such superstitious crap, can't remember the exact wording unfortunately. Wondering if I can work in that concept of predestination, instead of your "exploring the unexpected"... something like "see where our destiny takes us" or is it gonna sound awkward alongside the "filled" gag?

-Marty
 

Marty

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Haha Ozzo, so it was a nice try, but I crashed and burned :)

I adapted your text a little bit:

  • 7:05 PM—Marty: Your attention, yes. Your heart... perhaps. But what about the rest of you? I'm sure there are other areas that need filling, no? ;) Meet me 3pm tomorrow: let's see where this path is meant to take us...
She came back to me very promptly:

  • 7:17 PM—SlimMilf: Thanks, but that's not me. Any other areas are more than taken care of by the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Wishing you all the best.
I couldn't resist this parting shot, after she'd set it up so perfectly:

  • 7:29 PM—Marty: I didn't know immaculate conception was still in vogue :) Take care, He moves in mysterious ways! All the best to you too.
 
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