LR Sober at the club

[nino]

As part of my Newbie Assignment I decided to go out without drinking in order to improve my pick up skills overall. I used to think I was pretty good at picking up girls during night life but yesterday I realized that was solely because of me being drunk, and the girls being drunk.

We were a group of three with my friends drinking a little bit. At first I was all motivated and enjoyed the beautiful girls and we were dancing a little bit as usual. But as the night went on and we started to look for some girls I realized that it was pretty tough to go out there and ask a girl just if she wants to dance with me, even though I was in a venue where everybody expects to do so. Even had a girl looking a lot at me and smiling at me but I kept looking away and in the end didn't approach her and she gave up.

We kept dancing in our group but I wasn't really into it, I wanted to meet someone so I was more busy looking around than dancing and indeed, on a table next to us there was a group of three girls, with me facing away. They all looked good but the one in the middle was the most beautiful one, and I initiated some eye contact flirt to which she responded very well. However, I was very hesitant and tried to keep up the eye contact a little longer. And we did, at which point I thought I had to go for it or I'd regret it, so I did. I approached them, touched her hip and said to her friends "excuse me, but I have to kidnap your friend for a minute" and slightly pulled her towards me and away.

Since I wasn't drunk I had a clear mind and thought about what I've learned so far, so I tried to keep things interesting. I wasn't gonna go for that normal boring stuff and thought I will be very aggressive, even if I was going to be too aggressive but I was all about learning right now so for me it was about trial&err. But before I could say anything, she (obviously) asked why I took her away from her friends and then the following conversation happened:

Me "You looked at me as if you needed somebody to rescue you"
She "No I didn't!"
Me "Well yeah, but it would have been stupid not to say at least hi to you."
She "Why?", in a voice where you knew she wanted to hear she's hot so I said:
Me "Like I said, I had to rescue you"

and before she could deny it a second time I started to dance with her. The dance got pretty intense and time flew (and I thought time in clubs passes that quick because of the alcohol..) when they played "Wild Ones" and I asked "are you a wild one too?" and went in for the kiss. At first I went in too quickly and needy but I reminded myself and kept up the play and as I stopped she looked pretty darn sexy at me and I started to tease her a little and all of a sudden I had her kissing me again. Guess it was partly because of the alcohol but she actually didn't seem that drunk either.

Then we talked about those stupid normal things, you know, what our names were and stuff when after a while her friends came in order to leave. I already thought okay this is it but I felt good just kissing such a hot girl. However, she took my hand and took me out with them, which I actually didn't like because again, I thought this was the end of the night and I actually wanted to enjoy some more clubbing with my friends, but I went along nonetheless. Like I had predicted they were ready to go home but I knew I had to be persistent but can't come off as needy either so I was getting kinda nervous. Trying to pick up the initial joke I said,

"Now that I saved you you want to go back to them again?"
She "I never wanted to be rescued in the first place!"
Me "Did you regret it that much?"
She" Ha ha, no I didn't say that"
Me "So let me rescue you again. Look, there are a lot of getaway taxis"
She "You're cute. I'll give you my number and you can rescue me when I'm in need again" At which point I gave up and said,
Me "Alright I'm not going to force you. But I'm no private super hero either."
She "You're making it difficult for me. I'd love to be with you longer, but my friends.."

But we looked around and saw them off in the distance. I just was like "Thank you so much Dear Lord" but my confidence did take a little hit so I was put off to get aggressive again and offered her to take her home, even though from I past experiences I knew this won't give you anything in result but I guess I did get a little greedy, she was just so hot. However, things turned around. She told me her home was far away and she still lived with her parents (she was 19) and asked me how far I lived away. Luckily enough, it was a 5 minute ride with the taxi only so I took her home and the magic happened, with arguably one of the hottest girls I've ever been with. I hope the driver enjoyed our "foreplay" in the cab

After we were done she drove home, though, as she didn't want her parents to be worried. Which would have been fine but we still hadn't exchanged numbers, grr!! That does suck balls but I guess it's fair to say, case closed

So long - nino

 

[Eternity]

Man bro, those words u use were gold! I could see it going down in my head. In my opinion this is how u game a girl using "cold approach" Good job and keep gaming like a Boss!

 

[AFCnoob]

Wow, solid approach, immediate isolation, great transition to escalation. You didn't seem to suffer much from kissing her so early (I have to guess she was very attracted anyway).

Your persistence in keeping her around seemed a bit shaky (see how she did, of course want to continue hanging out)--but it seemed like you handled the friends properly by giving them a good impression, and minimal attention, just as the blog suggests, and they might have been intentionally "helping" you two by giving you some space.

I don't know why you offered to take her to her home (instead of back to your place), but she solved that problem for you so, fair enough. I can only imagine that escalation proceeded smoothly (from the taxi) once you got her back to your place. Too bad about the number, gotta stay on that technical game. Otherwise, I think that was about as standard as you can get, well done!

 

[Ross]

Smooth beginning, some minor slip ups in the middle, but overall the end result was getting laid, so I can't really argue with your process.

They all looked good but the one in the middle was the most beautiful one, and I initiated some eye contact flirt to which she responded very well. However, I was very hesitant and tried to keep up the eye contact a little longer. And we did, at which point I thought I had to go for it or I'd regret it, so I did. I approached them, touched her hip and said to her friends "excuse me, but I have to kidnap your friend for a minute" and slightly pulled her towards me and away.

Sounds like she had strong initial attraction to you, which is always very good for making things smooth. Now it was just a process of leading her to the bedroom. You broke her from her group excellently as well. Good job swallowing your approach anxiety and just going for it.

Me "You looked at me as if you needed somebody to rescue you"
She "No I didn't!"
Me "Well yeah, but it would have been stupid not to say at least hi to you."
She "Why?", in a voice where you knew she wanted to hear she's hot so I said:
Me "Like I said, I had to rescue you"

Strong frame control here. The actual dialogue isn't extremely important, because you kept your frame that you felt the need to come over and get her. Even though it is smarter to not like a shining white knight, the dialogue here isn't set up to place you in that position, as you are making it obvious that it's just your excuse to pull her away.

and before she could deny it a second time I started to dance with her. The dance got pretty intense and time flew (and I thought time in clubs passes that quick because of the alcohol..) when they played "Wild Ones" and I asked "are you a wild one too?" and went in for the kiss. At first I went in too quickly and needy but I reminded myself and kept up the play and as I stopped she looked pretty darn sexy at me and I started to tease her a little and all of a sudden I had her kissing me again. Guess it was partly because of the alcohol but she actually didn't seem that drunk either.

Good job initiating the dance before she could argue more. Good recovery from the initial kiss mess up.

Then we talked about those stupid normal things, you know, what our names were and stuff when after a while her friends came in order to leave. I already thought okay this is it but I felt good just kissing such a hot girl. However, she took my hand and took me out with them, which I actually didn't like because again, I thought this was the end of the night and I actually wanted to enjoy some more clubbing with my friends, but I went along nonetheless. Like I had predicted they were ready to go home but I knew I had to be persistent but can't come off as needy either so I was getting kinda nervous. Trying to pick up the initial joke I said,

"Now that I saved you you want to go back to them again?"
She "I never wanted to be rescued in the first place!"
Me "Did you regret it that much?"
She" Ha ha, no I didn't say that"
Me "So let me rescue you again. Look, there are a lot of getaway taxis"
She "You're cute. I'll give you my number and you can rescue me when I'm in need again" At which point I gave up and said,
Me "Alright I'm not going to force you. But I'm no private super hero either."
She "You're making it difficult for me. I'd love to be with you longer, but my friends.."

The beginning of this dialogue wasn't exactly smooth, as you are prodding around when it's not really needed. What ultimately helped you here was your hard sell and persistence at the end. You let her know you wouldn't be around forever, and made her choose to be with you right now. Without this hard sell point, she might not have suggested what comes next.

But we looked around and saw them off in the distance. I just was like "Thank you so much Dear Lord" but my confidence did take a little hit so I was put off to get aggressive again and offered her to take her home, even though from I past experiences I knew this won't give you anything in result but I guess I did get a little greedy, she was just so hot. However, things turned around. She told me her home was far away and she still lived with her parents (she was 19) and asked me how far I lived away. Luckily enough, it was a 5 minute ride with the taxi only so I took her home and the magic happened, with arguably one of the hottest girls I've ever been with. I hope the driver enjoyed our "foreplay" in the cab

You were so close man, luckily she realized that she really liked you and wanted to get with you tonight, otherwise she might have lost you. The combination of that and her probably wanting to get laid as her whole premise for going out if she was just sitting around looking hot.

Good job on the hard sell points and sleeping with her, I would suggest that you look at moving faster and having a clear plan for the interaction in which you always move towards the end result. This will smooth things along, but you are already doing pretty well. Being sober can be an advantage, surprisingly.

 

[The Tool]

Awesome job Nino, Solid and smooth, in the end it worked out great. excellent progress my man. Hope to read more reports soon. (I should start posting mine up myself)

 

[Just_Dave]

Very good man, I really enjoyed the read and very solid execution of various tactics.

 

[nino]

Man bro, those words u use were gold! I could see it going down in my head. In my opinion this is how u game a girl using "cold approach" Good job and keep gaming like a Boss!

Well I had a lot of time thinking about what I could possibly say. And if you take the example with the song "Wild Ones", that's actually something I've done in the past, so in that regard it's my favorite song and they do play it each and every time here.

I don't know why you offered to take her to her home (instead of back to your place), but she solved that problem for you so, fair enough.

I actually gave up on her but like I said, I got greedy and wanted to stay around her as long as possible and hope never dies, even if I knew it never gets you anything. But things turned around anyway so I had good luck I guess.

You were so close man, luckily she realized that she really liked you and wanted to get with you tonight, otherwise she might have lost you. The combination of that and her probably wanting to get laid as her whole premise for going out if she was just sitting around looking hot.

Good job on the hard sell points and sleeping with her, I would suggest that you look at moving faster and having a clear plan for the interaction in which you always move towards the end result. This will smooth things along, but you are already doing pretty well. Being sober can be an advantage, surprisingly.

Thanks a lot for your insights, definitely super helpful ! I think what also helped was that I didn't say the last thing [Alright I'm not going to force you. But I'm no private super hero either.] in a bitter way, even though it actually was me giving up. But what I have always known is that you should never show that to women.

Definitely true with me needing to move faster/make things clearer but I'm still very insecure, no matter how strong the signs are. And yeah, I was surprised too, being sober not only helps you say something useful, you actually get to choose who you end up with, meaning that if you find that girl beautiful you actually do and not drunk you.

Awesome job Nino, Solid and smooth, in the end it worked out great. excellent progress my man. Hope to read more reports soon. (I should start posting mine up myself)

Thanks mate! Hope I'll have lots of (successful) things to report about in the future

Very good man, I really enjoyed the read and very solid execution of various tactics.

Thanks for the nice words!

- nino

 

[Chase]

Solid stuff, Nino.

Pretty much every guy I've seen dedicatedly tackle going through homework / assignments like you have been typically ends up getting rewarded with at least a couple of lays toward the mid-point / end of the homework. It's part excitement, part momentum, and part just getting into the habit of doing it so you're not shaking off rust all the time like the guys going out less frequently.

Anyway, this one was well-played. I'm glad to see the aggressiveness and dominance and pushing your boundaries on how fast you could move paid off here... it's uncommon that everything works out perfectly when you try something new, but it's really rewarding when it does.

Great job, great pull, and you're doing terrific sticking to your newbie assignment too!

Chase

 

[nino]

Solid stuff, Nino.

Pretty much every guy I've seen dedicatedly tackle going through homework / assignments like you have been typically ends up getting rewarded with at least a couple of lays toward the mid-point / end of the homework. It's part excitement, part momentum, and part just getting into the habit of doing it so you're not shaking off rust all the time like the guys going out less frequently.

Anyway, this one was well-played. I'm glad to see the aggressiveness and dominance and pushing your boundaries on how fast you could move paid off here... it's uncommon that everything works out perfectly when you try something new, but it's really rewarding when it does.

Great job, great pull, and you're doing terrific sticking to your newbie assignment too!

Chase

Yeah I guess I had great beginner's luck but I'll also have to make sure to keep my expectations reasonable which is always a problem of mine after something really successful. Thanks for the nice words!

 

[stratvm]

very good report, absolutely must read stuff.

 

[Jeet02]

I just realized I asked you do this post and I hadn't read it yet! My bad man! haha But I finally did, better late than never right?!

Definitely good stuff as usual. I am glad you could pull it off at the end. I think, in my opinion, that part of her hesitation was actually her age. I think girls at that age (from what I have seen) tend to hold back a little bit more than girls a little bit older, because they are still afraid of what their friends might think. Hence why she kept talking about her friends.

As far as the whole "I am not a super hero" thing, I actually think that was SOLID. See, you think you shouldn't show women "you are giving up". But the way she actually saw it, was that you basically said "hey thats fine, I could go ahead and get another one if I want...but I am still here". You are letting her go basically, making her chase you. Which, in the end, is what Chase always teaches us. You are basically saying "I don't give a fuck...do what you want" and more often than not, if you have played your cards right, THAT's what attracts women. So yeah, don't think of it as "I am showing her that I am giving up" just think of it as been aloof and that you really don't care, even though you do. It is all about appearance.

All in all, good job man...as always.

Oh and one last thing...I don't think there is such thing as luck. My dad always taught me "you create your own luck"...and you do. Don't just throw it away to luck, be more confident than that...it was your abilities and they way you pulled it off. If it was luck you wouldn't be able to pull it off again, and you will be able to pull it again. So create your own luck because my friend, "luck"...is the excuse of the lazy.

-Jeet