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Went out this weekend again, and applied the advice I got from the previous FR.

Got there early on Saturday at 10:30pm like @Skills recommended. And did a few openers that were variations of what @KJ Francis recommended. I also met a wing in the club on Friday that is into PU, that is visiting here from Poland, so that was a big difference this weekend. I swear to God, at this point, I can tell seducers by the clothes they wear.

Not drinking helps a lot, I can actually focus on running the interaction and avoid just spewing high-energy non-sense, I think I smashed like 6 coke-zeros though. On the other hand, it is really hard to match the energy of the girls in club when not drinking.

Really got acclimated to the club environment by getting there at a less chaotic hour, @FunGuy was right. Anyways, ran a few interactions but nothing that really stuck, my opener was just "How is you night going?".

Wing really wanted to do street approaches at night and was complaining all the time of how he can't talk to girls in clubs cause he can't hear them. So that's what we did, had a few fun interactions but imo nothing worth writing about.

Wing made a good point about street approaches though, someone might find useful. He said that the girls are mostly drunk and they have a different perception to you who is sober. So for them, they don't even remember being approached just some dudes appeared and then they decide do they like them or not.

In the end, it turned into one of those nights where you just bounce around different clubs with a wing with some street approaches mixed in. Tbh, I prefer picking one place and sticking there. Also, I don't like doing street approaches because: A it is spammy in my mind, and B the girls are almost always cold and/or rushing somewhere. It can go good, I know... I just want to focus on club and bar game right now.

Being sober, my sub-comms were much more on point and I was able to communicate interest better with EC and vibe, at least for the on street approaches. In the club people talk into each others ears, so I haven't been doing proper EC. Though, now when I think about it I will have to test saying a sentence - then break away from ear and do some EC - then say next sentence.

However, I noticed some girls just don't stick. Imo, my fundamentals are solid, I dress cool, I attract attention, I don't blend into the crowd, I can talk, my vibe is alright but still some girls don't even seem to be receptive to my open.

I opened this very pettite girl in a club, who was wearing gliter and a tiara and angel wings:

"Have you ever seen Peter Pan?"

"No, no, no." Head nod motions to no

"The cartoon?"

"No, no, no."

(I'm thinking there is no way she hasn't seen fucking Peter Pan, she must be defaulting to no for some reason, at this point I knew the next line wasn't going to land)

"Anyway, you kinda remind me of Tinker Bell (lmao)".

"Ok."

So I auto-ejected on that one.

The infamous hook point has got me again. I used to hook before going off of vibe alone, but I really need to read up on some hooking and attraction creating material. Memorise a few gambits. If anyone has any good hook material, feel free to link it here.

Most interactions were too high energy and I'd say even though they were fun they were too short, I didn't get immersion and I didn't even get the chance to run the three keys. It is slighlty getting better with each outting though and muscle memory is kicking back in.

Lessons and sticking points:
1. Going out sober is much better to be able to strategize and think about seduction while out.
2. Wingmen can be good to have someone to talk to and keep the social momentum/they can be useful to push you/best for 2-sets obviously/It is more socially acceptable to be in a club with someone else | However, they also can be a burden and can cause endless club hopping/Bring your state down if they talk too much about game/Can also make you feel responsible for another person.
3. Hook point - don't relly on just sub-communications and vibe for hooking. Have some gambits ready to run.
 

Skills

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Street game is much better at the end of the night when clubs are closing or about to close...

I don't have the energy level issues that you have, but you can take a caffeine pill or red bull... I don't need them but when i tired have field tested caffeine pill...

Instead of you know peter pan... Hey ir oh shit you look like twinkle the peter pan psychic... Go into it vs asking her
 
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KJ Francis

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Nice job going out alone! Pretty cool you met a solo wing.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about the girls who weren't into you. I remember 60 years of challenge wrote about the asymmetric returns. He wants to go through the rejections to find the girl who's really into him and is waiting beyond all the rejections. You could have 10 nos and then BAM a strong yes.

Especially if you are dressing in a standout way, maybe it's a bit of a screen. Some girls may not like your type of look, but if it's a true display of your personality, it might also screen in the ones you want who will mesh with you well. I think DoWhatWorks wrote that about the genre of music you choose for picking venues. Good way to find your type.

-KJ
 
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