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Eternity

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I dont know the best way to go about with this. It came to me when I saw this gorgeous girl on the train and our eyes met momentarily. I didn't know how to pull it off without being blown out. She was with 2 friends and her boyfriend. You guys have insight into how to pull this off?
 

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Eternity,

Be friends with them, then call her and say to meet. I need to experiment. I realize texting is risky for difficult situations.

Texting has text. Call is just a log. So it is basically a precise shooting skills which can take maybe years to master.

Zac
 

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^Meant stealing her when you don't know either very well, not social cicle number close, more cold approach and finding a way to swoop her.
 

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Eternity,

Yea, couple approach. I done this before once. The girlfriend tried to make the guy jealous. I was surprised to be honest.

You can't swoop her right then and there. That's highly impossible unless someone help you or you in a party or something.

Zac
 

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Eternity said:
I dont know the best way to go about with this. It came to me when I saw this gorgeous girl on the train and our eyes met momentarily. I didn't know how to pull it off without being blown out. She was with 2 friends and her boyfriend. You guys have insight into how to pull this off?

Aim for the guy. Make friends with him. Happened to me at a party, he was there with a blonde and a brunette (his gf), befriending him, at one point i got drinks for him and i in front of the girls ( you should've seen the look on the girls face), making jealous because i was literally ignoring them, albeit being respectful to them. Anyways, at the end,exchanged numbers wih him and boom, was in their circle. The rest is history.

I understand youre on a train and dont have much time, but in that limited time, aim for the guy. When you approach them, sy something like "hi guys" so he knows you know they are all together and most likely he's with one of them, so it doesnt come off as youre hitting on the guy.
 

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And as a friendly reminder, Do what we say, not what always do.

As always, don't take lovebirds. :)

Zac
 

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I know you don't want to hear it at this time, but when you go after girl that is taken you are simply showing neediness. A guy who has abundance mentality doesn't do it, he has no "need to have that girl", no matter how pretty and sweet she is...

Other than that, I would keep looking in her eyes, that would hopefully raise her attraction. Then I would position myself to a place where she can get closer to me, while leaving her BF and friends somehow behind. If she does it (she approaches you), it is a good sign, her BF is just an orbital, a guy who is taking temporaly space while she is looking for the real deal.

Then totally disragard her BF, simply ignore him. Ask for number, then text her as if he didn't exist ...

Try it, you'll see. You would be supriced how much just simple looking in her eyes does. For example: You standing up somewhere, and see a girl. You look in her eyes till she looks to the ground (hopefully after couple of seconds). Then you look away, waiting till she looks back at you. She looks back at you, and you look in her eyes again. By this time she is passing you. You do nothing. Next thing you know is, she stops, turns back, and she is walking your direction again as if she forgot something... Good sign to approach, she is simply giving you a chance to start talking to her...
 

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Drck,

Drck said:
I know you don't want to hear it at this time, but when you go after girl that is taken you are simply showing neediness. A guy who has abundance mentality doesn't do it, he has no "need to have that girl", no matter how pretty and sweet she is...

Depends bro. To some, it's a fetish. We can talk about morals all we want but people operate differently.

Zac
 

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ZacAdam said:
Drck,

Drck said:
I know you don't want to hear it at this time, but when you go after girl that is taken you are simply showing neediness. A guy who has abundance mentality doesn't do it, he has no "need to have that girl", no matter how pretty and sweet she is...

Depends bro. To some, it's a fetish. We can talk about morals all we want but people operate differently.

Zac

Fetish or not, there is a difference between making yourself available and forcing yourself onto someone.

In this day and age, maybe its me and my circle of friends and people that i attract, but alot of couples that i know are into sharing and the girl fooling around with other men. You also need to take that into consideration. Times have changed, thats why my philosophy is to never force myself onto someone, just let them know im interested and let them/her make teh decision:
1) Either they both are into the lifestyle and they both decide if she can fool around with me
2) the girl is a slut and strays away from the relationship anyways, and in that sense, i rather it be with me than some other guy who might end up becoming a stalker or ruin her relationship. If a woman wants to stray away, she will, and at least i know she'll be in good hands with me.
 

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A2daMIR,

A2daMIR said:
In this day and age, maybe its me and my circle of friends and people that i attract, but alot of couples that i know are into sharing and the girl fooling around with other men. You also need to take that into consideration. Times have changed, thats why my philosophy is to never force myself onto someone, just let them know im interested and let them/her make teh decision:
1) Either they both are into the lifestyle and they both decide if she can fool around with me
2) the girl is a slut and strays away from the relationship anyways, and in that sense, i rather it be with me than some other guy who might end up becoming a stalker or ruin her relationship. If a woman wants to stray away, she will, and at least i know she'll be in good hands with me.

YES!!!! We can be best friends fOREver. :)

Zac
 

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2) the girl is a slut and strays away from the relationship anyways, and in that sense, i rather it be with me than some other guy who might end up becoming a stalker or ruin her relationship. If a woman wants to stray away, she will, and at least i know she'll be in good hands with me.

Too much White Knight for my taste. If I am going to steal a girl it is just to get in her pants a couple of times. I have no intentions of saving her.
 

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Sophisticated Gent said:
2) the girl is a slut and strays away from the relationship anyways, and in that sense, i rather it be with me than some other guy who might end up becoming a stalker or ruin her relationship. If a woman wants to stray away, she will, and at least i know she'll be in good hands with me.

Too much White Knight for my taste. If I am going to steal a girl it is just to get in her pants a couple of times. I have no intentions of saving her.

Good for you, and thanks for sharing your tastes.

You might see this as a war (Knights, stealing, saving), i dont. Sex is a hobby to me, so it should be fun, albeit challenging (why make her steal, where as you can seduce both the bf and the gf and get into her pants with the bf knowing about it :)).

How we chose to use our skills is up to us individually and based on our upbringing, morals, ethics, and pointless to debate over.
 

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A2daMIR said:
Sophisticated Gent said:
2) the girl is a slut and strays away from the relationship anyways, and in that sense, i rather it be with me than some other guy who might end up becoming a stalker or ruin her relationship. If a woman wants to stray away, she will, and at least i know she'll be in good hands with me.

Too much White Knight for my taste. If I am going to steal a girl it is just to get in her pants a couple of times. I have no intentions of saving her.

Good for you, and thanks for sharing your tastes.

You might see this as a war (Knights, stealing, saving), i dont. Sex is a hobby to me, so it should be fun, albeit challenging (why make her steal, where as you can seduce both the bf and the gf and get into her pants with the bf knowing about it :)).

How we chose to use our skills is up to us individually and based on our upbringing, morals, ethics, and pointless to debate over.

I'm glad to see you back on the Boards A2.

I was linked to a database with alot of your old reports from various old forums. Pretty sure you were a bouncer at one point and raked in women through it. Sorry if I'm mistaking you for somebody else in the event that I'm wrong.

Anyhow, I'd like to share my experience with seducing taken women. It's no different than seducing a girl who is out with her family, you turn your attention to the head of the group and in most cases it's the boyfriend. I've ran into two girls who wore the pants in the relationship and they responded well to direct game.

At first, I would only progress with women who were with abusive men and I'd swoop in and save them during the seduction. The girls I "saved" who I remain in contact with are doing well now. That being said, as much as I tried to resist falling back on the "If she's going to cheat, might as well be with me" I found myself casually embracing this idea without knowing it as I've seduced other taken women.

And actually, I've found taken women to be some of the most thrilling partners. As A2 said, sex is fun and seduction is fun. Don't make it a job.

-Richard
 

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A2daMIR at times I Poke the Bear to start a discussion to make a point. I apologize if I was not tactful. I have a point to make in this thread. I am not pointing the finger or accusing. I am trying to point out we are close to crossing a line. When we as humans do something that is of questionable morals (no judgement from me here intended) we need to do so understanding that we may be breaking others sense of right and wrong. As long as we do so knowing this ok as long as we keep our own sense of right and wrong. When we get into potential trouble is when we justify our actions as a noble cause. Thus we skew our own sense of right and wrong to justify our action. We must take care to not incorrectly save someone because we believe we are more noble. Thus my statement is not about war but about seeing ourselves as better than we may actually be. If we are going to steal a girl just do it. Don't try to make it noble.

Too much White Knight for my taste. If I am going to steal a girl it is just to get in her pants a couple of times. I have no intentions of saving her.

One final point. If a woman is truly in a bad situation we should bring this to the attention proper authorities.

SGent
 

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If women are going to cheat they will with or without you. All morality and ethics aside, sometimes a man might hold these principles near and dear their heart while a woman conveniently forgets them for a romp in the hay with a sexy man. You're just testing them, if they bite it's game on. If not, find some other girl who fits your respective criteria.
 

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A2daMIR said:
Eternity said:
I dont know the best way to go about with this. It came to me when I saw this gorgeous girl on the train and our eyes met momentarily. I didn't know how to pull it off without being blown out. She was with 2 friends and her boyfriend. You guys have insight into how to pull this off?

Aim for the guy. Make friends with him. Happened to me at a party, he was there with a blonde and a brunette (his gf), befriending him, at one point i got drinks for him and i in front of the girls ( you should've seen the look on the girls face), making jealous because i was literally ignoring them, albeit being respectful to them. Anyways, at the end,exchanged numbers wih him and boom, was in their circle. The rest is history.

I understand youre on a train and dont have much time, but in that limited time, aim for the guy. When you approach them, sy something like "hi guys" so he knows you know they are all together and most likely he's with one of them, so it doesnt come off as youre hitting on the guy.

That's great. I can see it working and also see me getting blown out because of it. But anyway, I'll definitely try it next time.
 

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A2daMIR said:
ZacAdam said:
Drck,

Drck said:
I know you don't want to hear it at this time, but when you go after girl that is taken you are simply showing neediness. A guy who has abundance mentality doesn't do it, he has no "need to have that girl", no matter how pretty and sweet she is...

Depends bro. To some, it's a fetish. We can talk about morals all we want but people operate differently.

Zac

Fetish or not, there is a difference between making yourself available and forcing yourself onto someone.

In this day and age, maybe its me and my circle of friends and people that i attract, but alot of couples that i know are into sharing and the girl fooling around with other men. You also need to take that into consideration. Times have changed, thats why my philosophy is to never force myself onto someone, just let them know im interested and let them/her make teh decision:
1) Either they both are into the lifestyle and they both decide if she can fool around with me
2) the girl is a slut and strays away from the relationship anyways, and in that sense, i rather it be with me than some other guy who might end up becoming a stalker or ruin her relationship. If a woman wants to stray away, she will, and at least i know she'll be in good hands with me.

I was just curious. Is there something gay going on here? or Is it just you fucking the girl and the guy watching? Honestly, the second scenario is way too wild for me to imagine. I'm not needy and I don't care if a girl I know fucks another guy but I wouldn't be comfortable sharing my girlfriend or my fuck buddy with anyone. It's just not a fantasy of mine. But I do get a kick of things like this like banging someone else's wife, girlfriends. I'm definitely interested in this lifestyle. So, A2daMIR, I know my question is kinda hanging outside on the personal side, but here it is. When you're sharing, do you only DP the girl with the guy or do you straight up have sex with the two of them? Because I would kinda feel bad for the guy that's sharing with me. And if he really wants to bang me, that wouldn't make me go home and get a goodnight's sleep. I'm not sexually uptight but I just can't see me doing that. So my question is, Can you find people that are into this lifestyle but still respect the fact that you are not bisexual? Have you ever had experience with couples like that or is it just bisexual people looking for bisexual people?
 
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Drck said:
I know you don't want to hear it at this time, but when you go after girl that is taken you are simply showing neediness. A guy who has abundance mentality doesn't do it, he has no "need to have that girl", no matter how pretty and sweet she is...

That's one of the HOF dumb lines of all time. Hey, you might be a nice guy but that kinda logic just makes me think you are fuelling your insecurities all this time while you really wanna steam roll past your insecurities.

Let me break your logic down, see if you can follow me here. IMO, there's only one seduction principle that supersedes every other abstract ideologies like Abundance mentality and that's the prizing attribute. A true Alpha male doesn't need Abundance mentality or reinforce it every time. Everything like Abundance mentality falls in place because he believes in the prizing factor. A true Alpha male knows he is the real deal and he is the real prize. Everywhere he goes, he enhances people's lives. It doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend or not, if she flirts back and she's interested in you more than her boyfriend. That's a pretty good indicator, they're not all that. They're just another two souls walking down the street arm in arm, looking close from the distance, but if you get to know them and see the strength of their relationship, it all comes down to just two people looking to fuck and just happened to be in the right place at the right place and they just fucked. There's no love or chemistry or intimacy or all that bullshit, if they really had any of that shit, a complete stranger like you and me, talking to the girl for a couple days or weeks wouldn't be able to create that feeling. Does that make any sense?
 

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asshole said:
Drck said:
I know you don't want to hear it at this time, but when you go after girl that is taken you are simply showing neediness. A guy who has abundance mentality doesn't do it, he has no "need to have that girl", no matter how pretty and sweet she is...

That's one of the HOF dumb lines of all time. Hey, you might be a nice guy but that kinda logic just makes me think you are fuelling your insecurities all this time while you really wanna steam roll past your insecurities.

Let me break your logic down, see if you can follow me here. IMO, there's only one seduction principle that supersedes every other abstract ideologies like Abundance mentality and that's the prizing attribute. A true Alpha male doesn't need Abundance mentality or reinforce it every time. Everything like Abundance mentality falls in place because he believes in the prizing factor. A true Alpha male knows he is the real deal and he is the real prize. Everywhere he goes, he enhances people's lives. It doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend or not, if she flirts back and she's interested in you more than her boyfriend. That's a pretty good indicator, they're not all that. They're just another two souls walking down the street arm in arm, looking close from the distance, but if you get to know them and see the strength of their relationship, it all comes down to just two people looking to fuck and just happened to be in the right place at the right place and they just fucked. There's no love or chemistry or intimacy or all that bullshit, if they really had any of that shit, a complete stranger like you and me, talking to the girl for a couple days or weeks wouldn't be able to create that feeling. Does that make any sense?

Haha who are you? Dr. Phil? Who made you the judge of what relationships are valid or not? You miss the point about Abundance mentality. It's "there are so many girls available to me in my Rolodex that I don't need to focus on taken girls. Let that guy have his girl, I have access to 10 more of my own that are as hot if not hotter." That's abundance mentality.

"This chick is cool but I don't need *this* one girl, her pussy isn't any more special than any other girl's pussy." That's abundance mentality. Stop putting taken girls on a pedestal. They're taken - move on to the next girl. Abundance.

There are so many tools and geeks who read this alpha male stuff and they let it get to their heads. You don't know alpha male. You only read about alpha male characteristics and hope to emulate some of their mannerisms and try to fool a girl long enough to think you are one. But you're not. If you were standing next to a real alpha male - the kind of alpha that exists everywhere in the animal kingdom, the kind that are on top of their species and all other males fall in line to - you would know it. And if you were to see an actual alpha male with his girl the last thing you would be thinking of is trying to take her from him.

Girls tell me I look like Vin Diesel *all the time* and I have the muscles to match - whether I'm with my wife or some girl I just met at bar that I've only known for 5 minutes trust me you aren't going to be taking either from me. But you can look all you want. You're just not gonna pull your "alpha male" crap on me lol. Kissy kissy!
 

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HellAtlantic said:
Haha who are you? Dr. Phil? Who made you the judge of what relationships are valid or not? You miss the point about Abundance mentality.

First off, don't take this personal. I don't know what I said pushed your buttons to the point you had to brag about all the girls you have and your looks.
If it makes you feel any better, I'll tell you I'm not that good looking like Vin Diesel or like you, I maybe a 7 if the lighting's right but I just don't care about things like that anymore. A true Alpha male raises above all the petty bullshit like looks and social conditioned labels like Boyfriend, Husband etc that people stick with. Don't get me wrong, I dress to impress but I just don't look for validation from a girl if I'm hot or not. And BTW, I don't mean I'm the Alpha male in any way, maybe that was the impression you took away from my OP that ticked you off. I'm not running for the Mr. Alpha Male title here. Steve Harvey will probably mess things up for me. That term is just the all-encompassing term for describing someone cool in my book. Now, I hope we get the bragging and indirect name calling (there are geeks and tools part....blah blah blah) out of the way. I for one, definitely think shit like this should stay out of this board.

Second, the point that I was trying to make in my OP was, abundance mentality is a given when you believe you are the prize, not the other way around. And with this, I was making a point that that particular logic he (I was surprised to find it wasn't you) came up with it is flawed IMO. The logic that a guy with abundance mentality doesn't need that taken girl and needing her (there is no needs in my book, just wants) or wanting her makes him needy. The deal with this logic is, you are pulling all these assumptions out of somewhere like having abundance mentality meaning Believing in the ability to get a lot of womensomehow makes you needy when you go for taken girls. So with this logic, you came to the conclusion that all guys who go for taken girls are needy and therefore they don't have abundance mentality. Psyche. Did you see the fallacy in your logic? If the alpha male you are describing is abundant, why limit yourself from banging taken girls? Why does your abundance mentality limits itself when you see a taken chick? Is it because of lack of confidence in yourself that makes you lose yourabundance mentality - ability to fuck loads of chicks when you meet a taken chick? Is it because you believe she's not gonna go for a ford when she has a rolls royce wraith? I don't wanna get personal but something tells me you guys are trying hard with all these logical fallacies not to go for taken chicks. I don't know if it's your socially conditioned upbringing that it's a sin for a man to go for a taken chick. I just can't wrap my head around your thinking.

Haha who are you? Dr. Phil? Who made you the judge of what relationships are valid or not? You miss the point about Abundance mentality.

It doesn't take rocket scientist to tell that something's off in the relationship when you have fucked a taken girl and she doesn't wanna even wanna talk about her boyfriend until later in the morning. I cannot mind read, but I can pick up some cues.

So, to counter these logical fallacies and conclusions that he came up with, I came up with an analogy of two lost souls walking arm in arm but once a stranger gets into this relationship. The girl leaves the guy or at least for the night to have some fun with the new man. I said, if this is the case, that's a pretty good indicator the relationship is not all that, it was just two people wanting to fuck happened to be in the same room. But with the Alpha male, now, it's something different. She's living life, having fun time with this new guy while the old guy just wasn't treating her right. The alpha male (the prize) enhanced her life. Analogy time. You were walking to your college everyday (being single). Suddenly, one day you get a lift from your friend's Honda Civic 1999 (she gets a boyfriend). And then, months later, your friend doesn't pick you up when you needed him. You feel like you're walking somewhere all alone. But once in a while, you do get that lift from your friend with Honda Civic. Hey, you think Honda Civic's all she can get in her life. And...Lightning strikes. Another stranger picks up with his Bugatti Veyron Super Sport(Alpha Male) and says we're going to Vegas. And they ride off into the sunset. Fucked happily ever after.


It's "there are so many girls available to me in my Rolodex that I don't need to focus on taken girls. Let that guy have his girl, I have access to 10 more of my own that are as hot if not hotter." That's abundance mentality.
That let his have that girl part is just what I can't wrap my head around. Why be so dogmatic about it? And why throw all these abstract things like Abundance Mentality up there to see if it sticks to your point of view?

"This chick is cool but I don't need *this* one girl, her pussy isn't any more special than any other girl's pussy." That's abundance mentality.
Reframe time.
Nothing can stop me or the girl that like me from having the time of our lives, not even her boyfriend that doesn't make her feel good. That's Abundance Mentality. My love for women is so abundant, damn, all these boyfriends and husbands, can't top the kind of way I'm making them feel. I have no

Stop putting taken girls on a pedestal. They're taken - move on to the next girl. Abundance.
Damn bro, I'm not putting her on any pedestal. She just won't let me get off her pedestal. I'm telling her, "Hey bitch, go back to your boyfriend, I want to take care of my other girls". Nah, she's not having any of it.


There are so many tools and geeks who read this alpha male stuff and they let it get to their heads. You don't know alpha male.
You only read about alpha male characteristics and hope to emulate some of their mannerisms and try to fool a girl long enough to think you are one. But you're not. If you were standing next to a real alpha male - the kind of alpha that exists everywhere in the animal kingdom, the kind that are on top of their species and all other males fall in line to - you would know it. And if you were to see an actual alpha male with his girl the last thing you would be thinking of is trying to take her from him.
Now that last part, I wouldn't wanna steal her from him. But if she's a cool chick, I might wanna fuck her with him knowing it. Alpha Male with that kind of abundance mentality will gladly share her with me because he can get any chick. He could give a fuck if she's with another guy. He knows it's just sex, the other guy can't never make her wet just by talking like he does.
 
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