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Stiffled Saturday - The Magic Of The Fur Coat Is Wearing Off

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Spent entire Friday building up a stack and looking at materials so I can try stuff tonight. btw. I still haven't finished my stack completely but I figured I need to build in more structure, so that's what I've been doing. So, without further ado, this is what I've been field testing.

Pre-game

1. I was drinking some green tea and listening to music to pump my state.

2. I did the 10 minute meditation Teevster recommended in podcast 14. of GC podcast.

3. I did the Julien's exercises from 10game to get in a talkative mood. There were 2 variations: one when you pick a subject and only talk about that subject for 3 min, and one where you are supposed to free associate between subjects (kinda walked into a good gambit and transition, but I haven't field tested it yet, so I won't share).

I finish my cheat sheet I was copying from my desktop stack and put it in my notes app, I put on my fur coat and my boots that make me appear even more tall, even though I am at a reasonable height, and I head out.

The arrival

I get to the club and I walk up to the bar to get a Pepsi-Max. I see this guy also waiting for a drink, and I thought what the hell, might as well start talking. So I fluff talk with the dude for a while till I get my drink. I disengage, and do that grounding meditation that was mentioned at the end of the same podcast to get acclimated to the envivroment: I close my eyes. Breath and hold my breath for five seconds and send energy to my feet to get grounded. It worked, it got me more relaxed.

Then I walk into the middle of the crowd for a better position. I don't see anything, I get bored and start moving around.

It is one of those clubs that has three different rooms, each playing a different genre. I check each out, and then stand at the intersection for a bit.

There is this other dude, who I can tell by his body language wants to talk to me, but I can't figure out if he is a player, or if he is gay or something. His look is a bit too "clean" as in too well groomed, so I try to avoid him. Later, I concluded he was probably a seducer and figured out I was also out solo. Anyway, doesn't matter.

I decide to bounce to the club next door. Once I get in, I zig-zag through the crowd like Teevster mentioned in the podcast. Toilet and back.

I see this blond chick as I am passing through the crowd and she give me strong EC, so I approach.

"Hey, how is your night going?" (cred. @Chase )

"Good. What about yourself?"

"I don't know yet, I just got here we will see. I was kinda bored so far, but I don't know.. you might change that." (said in a slight challenging way)

I back away and give her EC and a smirk.

Her: "Hmmm, no I don't know. No, I don't want to."

And walks too steps to the right.

At this point I am just happy I started approaching, so I eject, no sense in plowing this shit.

I go outside, walk around on the streets for ~15 minutes and go back to the first club I was in.

I stand near the bar to get another fucking Pepsi-Max, and there is this girl with a guy. And they are taking waaaay too long. I think she was trying to pay but her card kept getting rejected. She notices me behind her and offers me a gum. (This was probably IOI but I was too stupid to realize in the moment).

"No, thanks."

Dude, turns to me and goes:

"Sorry, for the wait man, I am not with her."

Ok, my mind starts getting a cleare picture. Fair game.

She finally pays for her drink somehow. And she turn around. My God, she had a beautifle face and the most mesmerizing eyes.

I do the celebrity opener cause she immediatly reminds me of Zooey Deschanel (cred. @Gunwitch)

"Hey, you know who you kinda look like."

She was saying something, but she had a thick accent and it looked like from her body language like she was getting offended, so I re-calibrated.

"No, no. I mean you look like that famouse celebrity. I bet you hear that a lot. But I don't want to say which one in case you get offended."

"Dooooo I, like who, is she pretty?" lol

"Omg. You look almost exactly like Zooey Deschanel. Have you seen, that movie 500 days of summer. I loved her in it."

Immediatly transition into a gambit, about being a guy "who gets it"

"I think it waaas so funny how the main guy in the movie completly and utterly SIMPED for her only cause he thought they shared some commonalities."

It was going good. The only problem was.

I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND A SINGLE WORD THIS GIRL WAS SAYING.

So, I was trying to read her body language and give her good EC, while talking rubbish, and trying to piece together what she was saying based on that.

Anyway, she turns around gets her drinks and disapears into the crowd with that rando guy. I think he payed for her drinks in the end.

So, after that, I did a bunch of STANDIND AROUND, with my dick in my hand (drink (Pepsi-Max)).

Some old drunk geezer, approached me and talked for a bit. But then I realized he was doing that lame ass move to girls passing by: "My friend wants to meet you but he is to shy to talk to girls." So, I just moved away from him.

Did some more standing around.

So this one girl by herself standing like 1 meter away from me, and thought to myself, perfect opportunity.

So I approach, and do what I said I was going to do last week, and that is give her EC in between sentences. And generally my whole delivery was much more controlled, and slowed down.

"You know... I thought I would feel better by going out... But now.. I realise... I am waaaay too sober for this crowd."

Was kinda expecting a laugh there, but she kind of looks at me, I hold EC, and goes:

"Yeah, me too. I am going home now."

"Hey, what can I say? Great minds think alike."

Give her some more EC. Silence starts setteling in. So I panic fluff, to gain some ground to launch into a gambit. Just as I start. Suprise! Her boyfriend appears. Dude, was completly OK, and non-combative. They just sort of disapeard into the night.

Did some more standing around.

Ok, enough.

Went outside, provelled the streets. And then went home.

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I got WAAAY less attention for my outfit tonight, I try to spread it out and wear it like every third weekend or something so It doesn't lose the novelty. Tonight it almost felt like I was invisible wherever I went. I don't know what it was. My vibe was deffinetly off. Maybe I spent too much time reading material the day before and was in "hussel mode". Maybe I had an off-putting expression and didn't realise it. But it felt like girls were avoiding eye contact with me. Maybe it's all in my head. I am definitely suffering from low-momentum though. Or maybe it's my fundamentals. But I am not going to lose 20lbs by next weekend anyway, so idk, tonality was better than usual, EC was on point, dressed nice, good hygine, idk how else to work on it.

I was pissed I spent so much time consuming material yesterday to the point of neglecting some other obligations, and I still did not finish my stack. But oh well, that's life I guess.

I think the big thing I realised is, I think I have this mental block when it comes to running a three-set or more. I can handle a two-set. I am mentally looking for a one-set, which is stupid because that is really rare in a club. So, that is a new sticking point to work on.

Sticking points, what I did about them, and some more problems that came up:

1. State management - I did the grounding technique from the podcast. I did pre-game preparations to get in a better mood. I gave myself time to get acclimated. I immediately talked to the first person I saw there. However, I still spent way too much time just standing around and that fucked me up. And I still got overwhelmed by the envivroment, stiffled and pushed in my head. I am self-concious that I am sticking out negatively and sometimes I will go into a negative thought-pattern. I need to block this out, and replace it with positive self-talk.

2. Hook - I armed myself with a bunch of gambits and also imrpovised some on the spot following a similar structure. I slowed down my talking pace and made more pauses. I started breaking away from the ear, to give some EC. However, my interactions are still way too short to run more material. I have problems energy verging in a high-energy envivroment where everyone is sloppy drunk and I am sober. I get cock blocked by the loud music and not being able to hear the girls.

3. Running the group - I realise I am not as comfortable approaching a whole group, when I am by myself, as approaching a single girl. I need to read up/watch some infield so I can have a clearer picture in my mind on how to efficently do that.

What more can I do:

1. For state management - Lower even more the time between interactions. JKT. Just keep talking. As long as I am talking to someone I am not self-concious. I need to hack into the OWN the place idc energy, I think this will fix itself once I start pulling from clubs. I have to go through the low-momentum articles on GC.

2. For Hooking - Even more gambits. More sex talk gambits. Stacking more assumptions, cocky funny, teasing etc. But I really need to figure this loud music thing. It is killing me.

3. Running the group - Read up more, watch some videos. Go through it mentally, visualize. And just start doing it. Even if it is dopey and jittery, just start doing it to get more used to it. It doesn't have to be perfect, like 60% is good enough.
 

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"I don't know yet, I just got here we will see. I was kinda bored so far, but I don't know.. you might change that." (said in a slight challenging way)
My 2 cents. I think you are still too much in "pickup mode". You don't have to drop this line so soon. You just made a massive display of unearned interest. Nightgame is not like daygame where you immediately need to stop someone otherwise they would walk off. You are all in a venue, its normal to be social. So first get into SOCIAL conversations, then even 2 minutes in you can throw in a tease or start flirting.

I would personally rather have 5 conversations with 2 or 3 sets in a nightclub and hold their interest with an engaging stack WITHOUT hitting on them than just directly try to seduce 1 or 2 girls in an outing at the club.

With indirect opinion openers you can get used to hooking and holding girls' attention first, get comfortable holding court with girls in the club/bar then move on to try seducing them.

I made a detailed post on one of your other FRs. I would go down that route first. Again its just my experience.

But I really think you need to get comfortable being SOCIAL first before becoming SEXUAL. I have never seen anyone being able to skip the social part and directly get good at being sexual.
 
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Hey @AspiringStoic I really appreciate that you took the time to read through and reply.

I really don't think being social is the problem, both in personal life and PU, maybe I am conveying it wrong through text.

I only do direct approaches to get the gears rolling as warm ups or if I am outside an interaction for too long, most of my approaches are indirect, like the other 2 that night.

Cheers!
 
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