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Struggling to apply Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz

Kaida

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I heard so many people mention this book PsychoCybernetics by Maxwell Maltz here on skilledseducer so I just had to check it out.

All in all the book is amazing and it confirmed many suspicions that I’ve had about myself. My self image holds me back significantly from making any lasting change to my fundamentals.

And I know this shit works because I’ve literally felt the success mechanism Maltz talks about. I once subconciously set a goal to have a sexy voice. Over the next few months I could see myself trying out different vocal projections, levels of depth, etc and slowly optimizing my voice.

By the end of it, I had such a smooth and sexy radio voice it was unbelievable. But soon enough my self image reverted again and now my voice is normal. This happens with so many of my fundamentals and I need to put an end to it.

Maybe I just haven’t understood the book well, but I don’t catch the actual process of how to fully reengineer and build a rock-hard self image that demolishes my goals

Heres a list of all the things I want to program into my self image:
  • I am an incredibly CHARISMATIC, INFLUENTIAL and SOCIALLY POWERFUL man RIGHT NOW who other people THROW THEIR VALUE AT in social situations RIGHT NOW


  • I am a READER. I love reading. I read in my free time when others would distract themselves. I internalize what I read at incredible rates


  • I am a CALM, COOL, and COLLECTED MAN at all times. I am always level headed


  • I am a man with an IRON WORD RIGHT NOW. My word CONTROLS MY ACTIONS UNFAILINGLY


  • I RELENTLESSLY OPTIMIZE . I NOTICE ALL MY MISTAKES & CONSTANTLY OPTIMIZE MY CHARISMA based on reactions from people.


  • I am an insightful, powerful man who walks into a place and IMMEDIATELY DEMANDS RESPECT wherever he goes RIGHT NOW


  • I am an EXPERT CONVERSATIONALIST. I am a relatable “STICKY PERSON” who people meet and IMMEDIATELY WANT IN THEIR LIVES

  • I am FILTHY RICH and DANGEROUSLY INFLUENTIAL MAN RIGHT NOW. I have EXCESS MONEY

  • I am a KILLER. I WORK INCREDIBLY HARD AND EFFICIENTLY. I GET SHIT DONE

  • I am an EXCELLENTLY PERSUASIVE and INFLUENTIAL ORATOR and STORYTELLER RIGHT NOW. I am incredibly skilled at CONVEYING & MAKING PEOPLE AGREE with my points 🗣️ 😲

Some of the thoughts I have to myself while reciting / visualizing these are: “Look around you. You aren’t rich.” “You don’t have what it takes (work ethic, talent, etc) to do that” “Thats wrong. Look at the past, people don’t treat you that way.” I try and cancel them but they keep coming up.

Sometimes I find myself being lazy and not doing the work I promised to do, even though I know I can blitz it. My negative and distracting thoughts get in the way.

Especially when it comes time to actually do something to make money, its like theres some strong resistance in my mind I need to get over. I’m 18 and I’m going to get rich by 25, so I need to work my inner world before I dominate the outer world


I’ve been trying at this for months and coming up stuck. Do you guys have any insight that could help me reengineer my self image for good
 
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ulrich

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Hey @Kaida… not having read the book, I may be missing some important information but my first thought after reading your post is that you’re demanding too much of yourself too fast.

First, we have a problem of time… some of the things you are striving to achieve really take years if not decades of dedication.
Things like being “an expert conversationalist”, filthy rich” and “notice ALL my mistakes” are not achievable in a one year timeframe, let alone all of them at the same time.

Here you would be best served by rewriting these affirmations to something on the lines of “I work everyday to become XXX and I am always making progress”.

Second, you can’t really trick your mind with affirmations, you need evidence.
Your mind is always looking for evidence of congruence… if you force an idea of yourself that is not backed by your actions and results in the real world, your mind will give you imposter syndrome and will try to scrap the problematic idea.

The solutions for all affirmations is to take action and get results so you can progressively change your mind.
Changing your self-perception is not a simple mental on/off switch… you need to back it up with actions AND RESULTS to cement the change.

Third, you’re striving to change too many things of yourself at the same time. This is not bad but it leaves you with this “I am not achieving enough” feeling that is common among ambitious high performers.

Thing is, if you’re aiming at doing 20 changes at the same time, you’re going to fail at many of them.
And that is OK. It’s part of being ambitious.

A guy tries to change one or two things in one year and he probably achieves it and feels incredibly good.
You try to change 20 things about yourself un one year, only achieve 12 or 15 of them and feel like crap.
Objectively you achieved more… but because you expected a lot more, you’re feeling disappointed.
Nothing to do here… this is how ambition looks. It’s better to understand and embrace it.
 

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I have three suggestions for your practice.

1. Focus on your own character qualities rather than outer circumstances. Confidence rather than "having excess money".
2. Focus on healthy goals rather than bloated stuff. I.e. poise and confidence rather than "dangerously influential"
3. Combine affirmations and visualizations in the following way:

The Practice of Thought Absorption
1. Find a secure, quiet place, as far as possible removed from the scenes and sounds of the outside world. If the ideal conditions cannot be secured, you must content yourself with the best obtainable conditions. The idea is to shut out the distracting, impressions, and enable you to be alone with yourself.

2. Place yourself on a couch, bed or easy chair, obtaining a position of absolute ease and comfort. Relax every muscle; withdraw the tension from every nerve; allow yourself to be perfectly “limp” all over, from head to feet. Breathe deeply and slowly, retaining the breath for several moments before expelling it; continue the deep breathing until a feeling of calm, restful quiet manifests itself.

3. Concentrate your whole attention inwardly upon yourself, shutting out all outside impressions. Concentration exercises will enable you to do this.

4. Having obtained the proper conditions of bodily and mental relaxation, fix your thought firmly, calmly and steadily upon the word “Fearless,” letting its outward form sink into your mind, as the die into the wax. Give yourself up to the thought and the word. Then think of the meaning of the word, the characteristics of a person possessing that quality, etc.

5. Form the mental picture of yourself possessed of the desired quality, act it out in your mind, as in a dream; think of yourself doing certain things by reason of the possession of the quality; see yourself in your relations to other men and women, you being possessed of the desired quality. In short, indulge in a pleasant “day dream,” having for its theme your possession of the quality desired. Give your imagination full sway, merely insisting upon it sticking to the text, and its always showing you successful in the scenes and occurrences of the dream. Always conclude this “dream” with a strong impression and thought of “I am.” This will give you additional strength and confidence. In fact, it is better to alternate the thought of the quality, with the idea and recognition of the “I am.”

6. Repeat these exercises as often as possible. It is like the dripping of the water on the stone. The repeated thought takes root and grows rapidly. It is a good plan to practice this exercise when you retire for the night, and also during your waking hours at night, if you have any. The exercises will not keep you from slumber, but will rather tend to induce the desire for sleep. If you feel yourself dropping into a doze, do not resist it, as the impression which you carry with you into sleep will dwell with you, and will do its work even while you are slumbering.
In the above exercises, I have used the word “Fearless” and its accompanying thought, to illustrate the process of inducing Thought Absorption. You will understand that you are to use the word expressing the quality of which you are desirous of acquiring. If you wish to rid yourself of an undesirable quality, select the word expressing the opposite thought. For instance, if you are inclined to be indolent, select the word “Active” or “Energy,” etc., and so on. You must remember that when we wish to brighten a room, we do not have to drive out the darkness first; we merely open the blinds and admit the light, and lo, the darkness has departed.

Do not bother about the undesirable thoughts, but concentrate on their opposites, and the positive will neutralize the negative. Do not become discouraged if the results do not come as soon as you would like. Remember, they are sure to come, in time. All that you require is repeated practice. The mind can be developed just as can be the muscle, and by the same process—continued practice. You have been given the means of remedying your defects. If you do not avail yourself of its benefits, it is simply because you do not want to. If you have Desire strong within you, you will do it. If you lack the strong desire, I can not help you. If you prefer to sell your glorious birthright of Mental Control for the mess of pottage of present indulgence, that is your own business. You are your own master. Make of yourself what you will.
 

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I have three suggestions for your practice.

1. Focus on your own character qualities rather than outer circumstances. Confidence rather than "having excess money".
2. Focus on healthy goals rather than bloated stuff. I.e. poise and confidence rather than "dangerously influential"
3. Combine affirmations and visualizations in the following way:
Where are the quotes from , @TestY ?
 

Skills

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@Karea Ricardus D. @Skills Y’all are the main reasons I got the book. if y’all have anything at all to add I would heavily appreciate it🙏🏾
the whole point i recommend the book is to work on self image... All this i am indian, or i am young or _____ fill in the black is why people don't like me or i don't get girls... if you are trying to do vision boards and stuff like that (don't remember this on the book), but if you are aiming to be something i would include things such as most women secretly like me and want to be with me sexually.... is a good seducer type mindset goal...
 

Kaida

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Here you would be best served by rewriting these affirmations to something on the lines of “I work everyday to become XXX and I am always making progress”.

Ohhh wow. That revision is great because your mind to look for signs of progress, and it uses the winner effect to keep you encouraged.

Second, you can’t really trick your mind with affirmations, you need evidence.
Your mind is always looking for evidence of congruence… if you force an idea of yourself that is not backed by your actions and results in the real world, your mind will give you imposter syndrome and will try to scrap the problematic idea.

Yeah, in the book it says the same thing. But it also says that you can create “synthetic” memories by regularly doing very detailed visualizations because your mind cant tell real memories from detailed visualizations. You can technically “create” your own evidence.

And this worked for me to an extent. I think I just need to train my imagination to be more vivid
Third, you’re striving to change too many things of yourself at the same time. This is not bad but it leaves you with this “I am not achieving enough” feeling that is common among ambitious high performers.

Thing is, if you’re aiming at doing 20 changes at the same time, you’re going to fail at many of them.
And that is OK. It’s part of being ambitious.

A guy tries to change one or two things in one year and he probably achieves it and feels incredibly good.
You try to change 20 things about yourself un one year, only achieve 12 or 15 of them and feel like crap.
Objectively you achieved more… but because you expected a lot more, you’re feeling disappointed.
Nothing to do here… this is how ambition looks. It’s better to understand and embrace it.


Very true man. I’ll take note of that when it happens

Thank you Ulrich!
 

Kaida

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Hey @Kaida… not having read the book, I may be missing some important information but my first thought after reading your post is that you’re demanding too much of yourself too fast.

First, we have a problem of time… some of the things you are striving to achieve really take years if not decades of dedication.
Things like being “an expert conversationalist”, filthy rich” and “notice ALL my mistakes” are not achievable in a one year timeframe, let alone all of them at the same time.

Here you would be best served by rewriting these affirmations to something on the lines of “I work everyday to become XXX and I am always making progress”.

Woah man. A few days of this and it was a total gamechanger. These were the only affirmations that seen to actually work.

Thanks a shit ton bro! Its like I’m making progress in all these different things at once. And these are all things that I havent noticed any progress in for months / years! 😁 Winner effect is truly amazing

I encourage anybody else reading this who wants to get the most out of affirmations to reframe them as “making progress every day”. Also start actively searching for small ways (doesn’t matter how small) you’re making progress and cheering. Much harder to burn out when you’re constantly winning
 
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Spyce D

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I encourage anybody else reading this who wants to get the most out of affirmations to reframe them as “making progress every day”. Also start actively searching for small ways (doesn’t matter how small) you’re making progress and cheering. Much harder to burn out when you’re constantly winning
This is definitely true because back in 2016-17 when I was your age ...I made mistake of visualising grand success instead of this .

Needless to say , because i couldn't achieve it quickly so i got brutally depressed and lead to the start of anxiety in my life.
 
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