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Garrett

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Hey guys, Garrett here.

So to sum up my situation, I'm trying to get into medical school. The thing is, I'm not very motivated about school in general. Last term I got a B+ average and I need an A- to get into medical school, so I'm almost there! School has always been easy for me, I don't work that hard, and it's because I just don't find any classes interesting. For example, I LOVE psychology and study it in my spare time, but when I go to class, all it is are boring definitions to memorize, and it's things I already know. I got an A- in psychology, but I don't have much of a drive for school. Whenever I'm studying, I'll always come to this site and read a bunch of posts and basically get engulfed in this. I'd much rather be going out and picking girls. My goal right now is to get efficient at my schoolwork, which I already have done. I know exactly what I have to do, it's just that I don't want to do it. All day I think about my fundamentals, girls, getting better game, sports, working out. I've been doing school for years, and I'm bored of this same old routine all the time, I want to go out and pickup girls, but I have to wait till summer. If i actually applied myself in school, I'd be getting a 4.0, I just don't really care to :/. I think it's because I haven't set any goal that's motivational. In the past I'd tell myself to just go for an A- as a goal, but I usually don't achieve it because I feel like it's not a very specific goal. Do you guys have any advice on how to set a motivational goal? Is it possible to get a drive to succeed at something you aren't passionate about?

Another thing, one of my professors once asked my class, "How many of you want to become doctors?" Almost the entire class put their hands up. He then went on to say, "How many of you have parents enforcing you to become doctors?" Almost everyone kept their hands up, including me. Then he went on, "You should all do what you love, because you will never work a day in your life. When I come to school and research chemistry (he's a chemistry prof), I love it. I used to have chemistry kits when I was a boy, I used to love chemistry even at a young age, it just fascinated me!. I never did that well in math, because I was never that interested in it, I even skipped the exam! So do what you love if you want to be happy."

^^ In regards to that, I agree. The thing is, you have to be realistic with what you want to do, because if you want to be a professional NBA player and you're 20, you're going to have one hell of a slog trying to make it. You can make it, but as Chase said, not many people are built for mastery. I'd say I'm above average at almost everything I do, but I'm not GREAT at anything. I don't know if I'm capable of mastery, but I want to get good enough at things until I feel satisfied with my results.

Any advice would be appreciated as I'd love to hear your thoughts :)

Cheers,
Garrett
 

Chase

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Hey Garrett,

The problem with trying to willpower your way to success is that it doesn't work. You can't fight your emotions... your emotions will always kick your butt.

If you want to win at something, you've got to find a way to make yourself want to win, and it needs to be a sustainable way, or you're going to burn out and throw the towel in halfway in. Which may not be bad if you're just trying to get a base level of proficiency at something, but you're trying to build a career here.

Garrett said:
I know exactly what I have to do, it's just that I don't want to do it. All day I think about my fundamentals, girls, getting better game, sports, working out. I've been doing school for years, and I'm bored of this same old routine all the time, I want to go out and pickup girls, but I have to wait till summer.

First note - school's boring for most people. Don't confuse school with your career.

It may be that you'll hate school, but love medicine. Not many people like sitting in classrooms listening to professors drone on. But you may find that being in a hospital during backbreaking 36 hour shifts, flirting with nurses, and saving lives really is your thing. So judge based on where you're going, rather than where you are right now. No matter what you study for, you're going to spend some time sitting in classrooms listening to professors drone on - don't let that be the basis of your decision.

Second note - why do you have to wait for summer? Are you living somewhere with 0 women?

If you want to do something, go do it. Then it'll be off your head, and you can get on with the other things you need to do.

Garrett said:
If i actually applied myself in school, I'd be getting a 4.0, I just don't really care to :/. I think it's because I haven't set any goal that's motivational. In the past I'd tell myself to just go for an A- as a goal, but I usually don't achieve it because I feel like it's not a very specific goal. Do you guys have any advice on how to set a motivational goal? Is it possible to get a drive to succeed at something you aren't passionate about?

No, it isn't, but it is possible to make yourself passionate about it.

What will motivate you only you know (or can discover); nobody here can tell you what's going to make you want a 4.0 grade. Maybe you find out they're offering a study abroad semester in some part of the world with really hot women you want to meet, but they only accept students with 3.70 GPAs or better, and suddenly you're motivated as hell. Maybe you do some research and find there's a great medical school with a 60% female population where men totally call the shots on relationships, but you need a 3.60 GPA and killer test scores to get in. Maybe you decide the ultimate goal of your medical career is to get into Harvard / Yale / somewhere else, but... you get the drift. Find something you really want that requires you succeed at what you're doing right now. Suddenly, you'll find a passion you didn't know you had surging you to kick some serious ass at your work.

Garrett said:
^^ In regards to that, I agree. The thing is, you have to be realistic with what you want to do, because if you want to be a professional NBA player and you're 20, you're going to have one hell of a slog trying to make it. You can make it, but as Chase said, not many people are built for mastery. I'd say I'm above average at almost everything I do, but I'm not GREAT at anything. I don't know if I'm capable of mastery, but I want to get good enough at things until I feel satisfied with my results.

Anyone with enough drive and grit is capable of mastery, but it requires a level of dedication to the exclusion of other things that most people aren't willing to make. You need to make sacrifices to achieve true mastery, and that includes pushing aside a lot of the relaxation and simple pleasures that most other people view as the highlights of life. The highlight of your life must revolve around reaching new heights of proficiency, and using that proficiency to do truly cool things.

Chase
 
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Whizzy

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Sounds like the key is just finding the motivation or silver lining to get motivated. Just imagine how awesome you'll done once your motivated if you already do great now. I'm in the same boat about school (straight A's easy in college) but when it comes to something I truly care about it makes a hell of a difference
 
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