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timra

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Hello wonderful people:

I am getting over approach anxiety and reading a book/doing the homework and it is working well for me. As I am going through this book I am also reading personal development books in order to be a better version of myself and get girls.

I am debating between two different books:

1. How to spot a liar (going through the outer signs you can see if someone is lying and the techniques to use to get them to tell you the truth).

2. 48 Laws of power

3. A book on overall body language (but would need recommendations).

Which would be more beneficial in the early stages of attracting girls? I am also up for other book suggestions.

Thank you,

Tim
 

West_Indian_Archie

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#3 body language.

48 laws is a good/fun read, but requires the reader to do some work in terms of spotting and implementing.

Liars? Girls call it flirting... Lol
 

KJ Francis

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I don't know if you mean your own body language or the girl's, but if the latter, you might like Superflirt, and Undercover Sex Signals. I skimmed both quickly but came to the conclusion that literally any body movement projected in your direction can be a sign of interest and you might as well just assume attraction anyways.
 

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Any recommendations on books for overall body language?

Every Body's Talking: What We Say without Words
- Donna Jackson

But the way I would go about it from a student pov, instead of hitting the clubs and just being lost, is to watch tv/movies on mute.

If you can tell what they're trying to communicate without hearing what they say - you're tapping into your OWN ability to read body language.

Body Language Translation is already in your "firmware", lol. It's just not well developed, because you haven't developed it, and society chooses not to develop these things in boys (outside of prolonged eye contact means fight).

Girls are taught this stuff explicitly, but usually informally from peers and female family members for reasons of safety - which cuts the other way, cause they can fall in love with unsafe men...

One of the problems of the game, imo, is that our intellectual brain can't really connect and understand that part of the brain that does and can recognize what other bodies/expressions are doing/mean. We can react, but we can't think and we can't act based on that information.

IMO, Reading and understanding body language is primarily defensive.

And for the most part, for what we do, we're looking for signs of fear, and signs of acceptance/interest, so that we can respond appropriately. I'm not sure if you get that from a book.

If you want your "offensive" game to grow - you take classes on acting - so that you can
  • learn more social situations than you have personally been involved in
  • emote different emotions in those situations
  • get meaningful feedback from experts in a safe environment.
Couple this with what we know about mirror neurons


And you can actually do real pick up, not just "placebo" pick up.

All of this advice ultimately depends on how far you want your game to go.

With placebo pickup, Most guys can get dates just fine without all the extra reading and training, by just looking better/dressing better, going out consistently, and talking 10x more than they normally have in their lives. The last part being the hardest.
 

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Hello wonderful people:

I am getting over approach anxiety and reading a book/doing the homework and it is working well for me. As I am going through this book I am also reading personal development books in order to be a better version of myself and get girls.

I am debating between two different books:

1. How to spot a liar (going through the outer signs you can see if someone is lying and the techniques to use to get them to tell you the truth).

2. 48 Laws of power

3. A book on overall body language (but would need recommendations).

Which would be more beneficial in the early stages of attracting girls? I am also up for other book suggestions.

Thank you,

Tim
No more mister nice guy.

The six pillars of self esteem.

The passion trap.

Psycho cybernetics.

The power of positive thinking.

The power of now.

Awaken the giant within.

(I’ve read all these books multiple times, off the top of my head they’re among the best for overall self help, the first few were also more geared towards seduction and women)
 

KJ Francis

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Reading is a waste of time, just go out and approach.
Have you ever read a GIrls Chase article?

I am also up for other book suggestions.


I would recommend Mystery's Venusian Arts Handbook, Franco's Manual Seduction, 60 Years of Challenge Complete Game Revision System, and Chase's How to Make Girls Chase.
 

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Reading is a waste of time, just go out and approach.
This is like saying, don’t learn about fitness or work outs even though you have no experience with the gym, just go work out.

Then a dude goes to the gym for an hour and just does random machines for random number of reps and walks around confused, works out random muscle groups, makes zero progress, then leaves.

This is a good example, because pick up is much harder and more complex than fitness and working out. Just go out and approach without a plan or any understanding of attraction………. Horrible.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

KJ Francis

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Just go out and approach without a plan or any understanding of attraction………. Horrible.
Yes you could also majorly fuck your back up by not reading about form for major compound lifts. I am pretty grateful for having read primarily Chase and some Franco about female psychology and relationship management... I can see how guys could fuck their life up.
 
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