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Hi,

As i just quarrel with my family and try to be as relax and be relatable, although was quite work up with it, and got mad. I finally understood what i feel Chase has been through and what he has layout his blog for men to learn. I just quarrel with my family members on the fact that this very thing Chase writes down "Give Women What They Want or Let Them Go". As my family are not so keen on me behaving differently, i also are not keen on them caging me. I also realize the importance of why you should qualify, screen and having relationships with the right women so that there will not be drama like the one im facing. Having to be able to communicate anything with your women, loved ones, friends, and not manipulate them to who you want them to be and not give back. As much as you love women, you should always send the right message. I think it goes the same for family too. The right to have your needs met, and not be judged, and give it to them. Setting expectations.

Thanks Chase, for starting this blog, for writing and sharing your experience, for being warmth and relatable, for being kind to give us this notes, for giving thoughts of most of the guys on what you write the next article and the next and the next article and continue. I can feel you man, maybe i'm not you and what you have gone through, to know true grit, but You know because of you, i have a new perspective of life, a new hope, and a mentor of someone who has been there, and done that. I hope to not do my parents and cousins mistakes, build a better future that's more peaceful, open and one where life is amazing and helping people as much as you can, and gives good emotions to everyone, and even after relationships if me and the girl go separate ways, also when i get married in the future, ( although not likely now. :D!! )

I thought we have a "Support tab" for our guys here. This is a forum that i think we should cater as not just ordinary forum but people who want to improve their lifes, and the support that they can write down their problems outside dating without being judged for their lifes. We can try read and aid the problem, but no promises. We want to always under promise and do our best, not try to give comments that might not help. I feel that recently i might not give quality advices. Also not good for people here too. Consider my idea, they can write what they have learn, or maybe we should just stick to the General tab. I don't know, It's your blog and forum man. :)

P.s I am refering to this two articles out of your library of articles, that explain for me, viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41#p338 and viewtopic.php?f=7&t=121&p=391#p391

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Old photo man, but Cheers to you.
Thank you, Chase, Love you like a bro man. i hope to meet you someday if given the opportunity to do business or anything. This is corny but really, God bless. Thank you. :) (btw,Thanks for promoting me to the Yellow man, i still got more to do man.)
Zac
 
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Chase

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Hey Zac,

ZacAdam said:
As i just quarrel with my family and try to be as relax and be relatable, although was quite work up with it, and got mad. I finally understood what i feel Chase has been through and what he has layout his blog for men to learn. I just quarrel with my family members on the fact that this very thing Chase writes down "Give Women What They Want or Let Them Go". As my family are not so keen on me behaving differently, i also are not keen on them caging me.

Good that you can feel this / get this.

Yeah, sometimes it's weird to me to think about how there are certain concepts that seem crystal clear to me, and I'm like, "Pssh, of COURSE everyone knows it's this way! It's obvious!" but then a lot of guys are like, "But do I have to do it that way? I really want to do it THIS way!" And I'm like, :hangs head:

Actually, this is one of those ones that took me years to get to and I had to hurt some girls along the way, which bothers me quite a bit because I was always trying so hard to NOT hurt anybody. This is a big part of why it's so important to get good at picking up and seduction in my view - you can't free yourself from selfishly scrambling for your own wants and needs unless those wants and needs are sufficiently addressed. e.g., when you're starving to death, it becomes very hard to be generous about food, no matter how great a person you are. Guys who don't have abundance or absolute abundance can be very much like the guy who's starving to death and grabbing other people's loaves of bread to keep trying to feed himself.

Unfortunately, families can be this way too, especially if you're an only child - you're the only shot they've got for their genetic legacy, and they're going to act selfish in trying to make sure that you follow the safe path and do what they want you to do. It's a mixed form of selfishness and protectiveness about you that can be quite frustrating if you're going through it (I haven't myself had overbearing family members, but having spent a some time in Asian society, I've had plenty of friends and girlfriends who have, and I'm very aware how irritating that can be).

ZacAdam said:
I thought we have a "Support tab" for our guys here. This is a forum that i think we should cater as not just ordinary forum but people who want to improve their lifes, and the support that they can write down their problems outside dating without being judged for their lifes. We can try read and aid the problem, but no promises. We want to always under promise and do our best, not try to give comments that might not help. I feel that recently i might not give quality advices. Also not good for people here too. Consider my idea, they can write what they have learn, or maybe we should just stick to the General tab. I don't know, It's your blog and forum man. :)

I gave some thought to a "Lifestyles" board, where guys could discuss things like work, careers, family, travel, etc. I think that'd be very similar / the same as what you're proposing here, Zac. If that's something people are interested in, I might open it up.


ZacAdam said:
Thank you, Chase, Love you like a bro man. i hope to meet you someday if given the opportunity to do business or anything. This is corny but really, God bless. Thank you. :) (btw,Thanks for promoting me to the Yellow man, i still got more to do man.)
Zac

Don't mention it, Zac ;) And actually, talking ranks, Franco proposed bumping you up, as I've been doing some travel of late and haven't been on the boards quite as much recently.

Maybe we'll meet one of these days...

Chase
 

trashKENNUT

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Chase said:
Actually, this is one of those ones that took me years to get to and I had to hurt some girls along the way, which bothers me quite a bit because I was always trying so hard to NOT hurt anybody. This is a big part of why it's so important to get good at picking up and seduction in my view - you can't free yourself from selfishly scrambling for your own wants and needs unless those wants and needs are sufficiently addressed. e.g., when you're starving to death, it becomes very hard to be generous about food, no matter how great a person you are. Guys who don't have abundance or absolute abundance can be very much like the guy who's starving to death and grabbing other people's loaves of bread to keep trying to feed himself.

I agree it is kind of hard too, no matter how great you are. I think abundance and if you are ambitious, absolute abundance, is more like necessary the key to living life and avoid this matters to surface.

Chase said:
(I haven't myself had overbearing family members, but having spent a some time in Asian society, I've had plenty of friends and girlfriends who have, and I'm very aware how irritating that can be).

Asian society is slowly liberating, but i doubt it's going to be a peaceful breakout though. Sadded.

Chase said:
Franco proposed bumping you up, as I've been doing some travel of late and haven't been on the boards quite as much recently.

Maybe we'll meet one of these days...

Franco and i, and actually more of the members actually discuss in an article about "Getting Girls back", and quite frankly, it's more work. I don't know if marriage is susceptible to this kind of thing, where she gets mad and lost her feelings, But i guess this is why you emphasize what you written here in the blog and articles, comes in the first place. So such things don't occur, although there are no guarantees in life maybe? i do not know.

Meeting you at some point, if possible, will be great.

Zac
 
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