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NotJamesBond

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I was messaging this girl and it was going great. We'd exchange huge walls of text (enormous). I know this site advises against that, but it was fine. However, I called her up and I think this is what killed it. We talked for an hour and there was intermittent laughter from her and me, so I thought it went well. However, she has not replied to the couple of texts (which were questions) since. She did not reply Thursday night, and then I sent another this morning and nothing. I'm going to send one more in a couple days, and that'll be the magical 3. I know it's pretty futile to go back in my memory and try to sift through what I did/said wrong, but I did talk quite a bit. I rambled a couple times. She seemed unphased (polite?) and talked quite a bit herself. Who knows, maybe it was my voice itself even. What I'm asking is: is talking too much an attraction killer? Does it depend on the woman or is it generally bad? I figure some women like talkers and the more interested in you they are, the more leeway you have. The last woman I talked to like that was really interested in me, so maybe she spoiled me, causing me to think how much I talked was fine. Just looking for any insight from more experienced flatterers.

-NJB
 

Hue

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NotJamesBond,

From what I can tell from what you wrote, the relationship you have with her right now is a texting buddy, think about what you can do to change that.

Most of the connection that you build is optimal if done in person, which is why GC advises to use texting primarily as a tool to get a date set up / meet up.

You exchanged enormous walls of text, and then called and talked for an hour. Why was there no attempt to schedule a date or meet up that day with her through either of these opportunities? What's the connection worth if it doesn't take place in real life?

She did not reply Thursday night, and then I sent another this morning and nothing. I'm going to send one more in a couple days, and that'll be the magical 3.

If I were you I'd pull off hard, and go radio silent for a week, maybe two. Then she'll wonder what's going on, and if she doesn't reach out to you before then, then shoot her a text saying "hey [missy] I've been super busy blah blah blah we should get coffee and catch up" or call her and communicate the same thing, but with the goal in mind of scheduling a meet up.



Hue
 

NotJamesBond

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I appreciate the tips. I should have explained this initially but the reason we haven't met up yet is due to the distance. She's quite a ways away, too. We said in the messages how we'll meet up half-way in this one town (non-specific plans), but on the phone I didn't bring it up because I was going to do that in the next call/bring it up over text. We have hardly texted, the messages we exchanged were on a dating site lol. We had a mutual understanding of interest, she told me some deep stuff about her that she tells "guys she's talking to/dating". She stopped responding pretty suddenly, which is why I'm scratching my head.
 

Seppuku

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Hey NJB,

Like Hue said, it is better to hold back on the amount of texting, to avoid the textbuddy loophole. And it is better usually to incite her to talk about herself, rather than you doing the talking. However, yes, when she's away and there is no possibility of meeting right away, you've got to keep the connection alive, so you have to use this chat.

But what I suspect you are not doing, and which cost you the interaction, is: you did not maintain a healthy sexual tension. Correct me if I'm wrong.

How would you do that?

First, you're not always available for texting. Sometimes you don't answer right away. Sometimes you keep silence for a few days and let her wonder. You aim to let her initiate the chat, say 2 times out of three. A reasonable dose of silence in texting is a good habit. It keeps her guessing and keep her on her toes. If you're too available, she will guess many things about you, such as you're obviously not busy fucking someone else. She should never be sure of that. Nor of the opposite.

Second, you make sure that you keep some sexual tone, at least once in a while. Use and abuse sexual innuendos. Make some references to her womanly shapes in her pictures. Etc...

Third, if you are going to call her, you are going to use your sexy voice. It's the first physical contact she will have with you: your voice. Remember that your voice alone can make her wet. Read on GC main site the articles on fundamentals and on voice. On the phone, you will keep a cool and collected tone - as opposed to a hyper excited one. You are going to avoid making her laugh. If you don't understand why, I suggest you read "making her laugh means nothing" from Ricardus on the main site. Your call is going to be about keeping tension.

Tension, tension, tension!

Just a week ago, I went to meet a girl that I knew from Instagram. Same, long distance situation. Here are some excerpts of texting we did before meeting:
Me: You also work on your fitness. I will control the results! she was hinting on having gained weight over the festive season. That's a very common girl concern and a nice way to get sexual
Her: Will try
Me: Are you still able to put these tight jackets and button them around the waist? direct reference to her Instagram pics
Her: Yes
Me: So what’s the worry?
Her: The hips
Me: A little more fat around the hips will just add to the charms (wink)
Her: Hahaha (laugh emojis)
Her (switching subject): Do you know that I have never had a white man? (drops / aubergine emojis) - she's a black girl by the way
Me: It means it’s about time you tried French food! I'm French. Insert any nationality here.
Her: Oh yes
Me: Hahaha. I have some experience with exotic dishes already (wink)
Me: But Ok, you need to be initiated to French cuisine. We have some nice chefs!
Her: Haha really? Am waiting
Later on she kept referring me as "my French meal", while I was calling her "my hot chocolate".
Note her reaction when I mentioned her charms - she said she never had a white man, implying she wanted to fuck me. That's the sort of reaction you get when you hint sexuality. The drops and aubergine emojis are a direct reference to a dick and sperm.

This sexual tone kept her interested, and when we finally met (some weeks later), she was in my bed about 30 minutes from first meeting ever.

Sexual tension! That's how you are going to keep the interest up. Try it!

Seppuku
 

NotJamesBond

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Appreciate the reply as always, Seppuku. So I don't text anyone much at all actually and my texts were an hour or two after hers minimum. I agree that I think I lost her over the phone, though. My voice was sexy at first but I quickly went into autopilot and kind of dropped it, yeah. That's probably what happened. Maybe became too "chummy" too fast. I let her talk too and I listened, it was probably about equal, but I probably got carried away by a hair a couple times, ha. And as you said, she should be doing 1/3 more talking/texting. I'll go back in the field with this in mind (I haven't screwed up the phone before, I guess we all have cracks in our game!). As you were.

NJB
 
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Hue

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Second, you make sure that you keep some sexual tone, at least once in a while. Use and abuse sexual innuendos. Make some references to her womanly shapes in her pictures. Etc...

Third, if you are going to call her, you are going to use your sexy voice. It's the first physical contact she will have with you: your voice. Remember that your voice alone can make her wet. Read on GC main site the articles on fundamentals and on voice. On the phone, you will keep a cool and collected tone - as opposed to a hyper excited one. You are going to avoid making her laugh. If you don't understand why, I suggest you read "making her laugh means nothing" from Ricardus on the main site. Your call is going to be about keeping tension.

Tension, tension, tension!

Great advice - especially for long distance girls!


I was going to do that in the next call/bring it up over text.

Unless it's a girl that you're getting a lot of resistance from on say, the first or second date with or something, waiting almost always fucks you. I can't tell you how many girls I've lost from not moving things forward (in the direction of meeting up / sex) and doing so quickly.

We have hardly texted, the messages we exchanged were on a dating site lol. We had a mutual understanding of interest, she told me some deep stuff about her that she tells "guys she's talking to/dating". She stopped responding pretty suddenly, which is why I'm scratching my head.

When I first got a Tinder I had a couple girls that I'd get into "deep" conversations with, on the app, and eventually realized that our convos were probably no different than that she was having with most other guys that invested their time like I did (girls that want attention and/or girls that have some actual issues and turn to online strangers [most of whom just want to fuck her in the end] to vent to). I'm not saying that your girl necessarily fits one of these because I don't know what you're talking about - I just know that there's girls on the app that are mostly their for someone to.. gain texting buddys (attention surpluses).



I highly recommend, in addition to the solid advice Seppuku has provided you with, these 3 articles to read/review.

Attraction has an expiration date
Move Faster
How to keep her attraction lasting longer


Best of luck,

Hue
 
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