I tried to post already but it didn't go through the first time? Some technical problem?
Anyway, I will try again. I'm an nextasf refugee, been learning game for almost 15 years. Most recently I had a very high quality LTR (pretty, around a 7
) as well as very emotionally mature and stable and sweet, but unfortunately she moved away and it turned into a long distanceish and that together with her not so high sex drive made me miserable and I had to end things. It hurts a lot, and I'm moving on as best I can. But let me write about what I plan to do now and get some feedback.
Before, when I was actively gaming, generally my results were like:
of girls who were 6s who I got on dates from tinder I could sleep with (eventually, sometimes first sometimes second or third date) 1 of 3
if they were 7s it's more like 1 in 8
I did a lot of daygame before but I pretty much only approached hotter girls, closer to 8 and above, and didn't get anything for a very long time from it. But in the past I have, sometimes.
Overall my lay count is about 100. Mostly 6s, maybe 30-35 7s, and 5-6 8s or so.
I plan to do the following now:
1) Alternate 3 months monk mode and 3 months actively gaming. This is because I find I have a high drive and without regular sex I get unhappy, but I also agree with Chase that having multiple mltrs/fwbs is too time consuming, so this seems to be a hack around this dilemma.
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So by harnessing my sexual energy for productivity I could avoid the time sink. Especially in winter.
Any maybe with increased success in life, down the line there will be greater confidence and less neediness.
And overall perhaps it will bring greater life satisfaction to focus more on other things.
And gaming is a bit stressful, so taking regular breaks could help me really give it my all knowing I'll have a chance to relax from the flaking, entitled attitudes, hitting my head against the wall progress-wise etc. etc.
2) I will aim to lower my standards for cold approaching and try to focus more on that over tinder. Generally people learn best with challenges that are difficult but not overly so, so I will mostly aim to approach and go on dates with an even amount of 6s and 7s, and maybe only very rarely an 8
3) I will hammer hard to fundamentals, there are still some things that still I can improve on, and at this point I shouldn't be making basic mistakes.
Exercises (even during monk mode, spend time at home working on this) to improve humor, flirting, charismatic conversation and so on
In the field focus on fundamental strategic elements, always make sure to be playful and sexual, always be approaching and aggressively closing, I especially need to tighten up my killer instinct. when out don't let myself get discouraged but keep at it.
There is in general some "X factor" that is affecting me, in that a guy who looks worse than me can do and say the same thing as me and get a better result usually, and it seems there's a vibe issue of "stiff / stifled / unexpressive" and maybe in the long run strategy #1 will help, but otherwise I've tried millions of things to address the vibe specifically which were all a waste of time, so I will focus on the factors that are within my control.
Otherwise I've had coaching, one is more of a classic banter and verbal game fundamentals game who said my dates were just too boring and gave me the exercises to work on being more generally interesting, and also playful and flirtatious.
I will also make sure to practice this deep diving thing to build more of an emotional connection, as I also heard the conversations were too surface level.
I had another coach for daygame specifically. He was helpful in teaching boldness and leading and escalation on the approach. For some reason I found getting girls giggling a lot from skills learned from the first guy was not as effective as some of the things I learned from the second coach, with whom at my very best I could get a date out of 50 approaches or something, but usually with an 8+, but nothing would happen on the date (not since maybe 50 dates and many years ago)
I will in general set myself up to be happy alone. I'd like a cute sweet highly sexual ltr and will do my best to improve myself to get this, but I'll try to let go of that outcome as well, and become perfectly content with being single as well, indefinitely. But of course I'd regret it if I don't give it a significant attempt once more in my 30s, as I will probably be too busy to be doing exercises on being witty and flirtatious in my 40s.
But at the same time there are also things here I need to get right especially my future vision and financial situation, so I will have to balance my time carefully.
www.girlschase.com
Some other strategic considerations: I live in east-central europe. The two most successful guys I knew were:
1) narcissistic talkative British business owner
2) wacky goofy silly Turkish guy
I'm a bit of a "strong silent" type, but I don't know anyone who is successful like that. I don't resemble these two guys at all.
It has been said that the main place for daygame, the shopping street, is overrun with puas and has become almost like a megaclub in women's expectations and reactions. Plus that street tends to attract more status-climbing and gold digging types of women, rather than more calmer nicer girls. So I will aim to diversify where I meet them, and especially want to train myself to be able to do it "off duty" but also there are not many places to go with high traffic.
With regards to dates I've tried already, and will keep cycling through (as in trying all of them and seeing what works best, but so far haven't found a pattern) between an aggressive one date lay versus the blackdragon two date model versus the slow play three date one. With some of the eastern european immigrants in particular, they are a bit slower. But I've tried all three and it isn't clear what the best is in terms of time wasted relative to success rate
Anyway, I will try again. I'm an nextasf refugee, been learning game for almost 15 years. Most recently I had a very high quality LTR (pretty, around a 7
) as well as very emotionally mature and stable and sweet, but unfortunately she moved away and it turned into a long distanceish and that together with her not so high sex drive made me miserable and I had to end things. It hurts a lot, and I'm moving on as best I can. But let me write about what I plan to do now and get some feedback.Before, when I was actively gaming, generally my results were like:
of girls who were 6s who I got on dates from tinder I could sleep with (eventually, sometimes first sometimes second or third date) 1 of 3
if they were 7s it's more like 1 in 8
I did a lot of daygame before but I pretty much only approached hotter girls, closer to 8 and above, and didn't get anything for a very long time from it. But in the past I have, sometimes.
Overall my lay count is about 100. Mostly 6s, maybe 30-35 7s, and 5-6 8s or so.
I plan to do the following now:
1) Alternate 3 months monk mode and 3 months actively gaming. This is because I find I have a high drive and without regular sex I get unhappy, but I also agree with Chase that having multiple mltrs/fwbs is too time consuming, so this seems to be a hack around this dilemma.
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So by harnessing my sexual energy for productivity I could avoid the time sink. Especially in winter.
Any maybe with increased success in life, down the line there will be greater confidence and less neediness.
And overall perhaps it will bring greater life satisfaction to focus more on other things.
And gaming is a bit stressful, so taking regular breaks could help me really give it my all knowing I'll have a chance to relax from the flaking, entitled attitudes, hitting my head against the wall progress-wise etc. etc.
2) I will aim to lower my standards for cold approaching and try to focus more on that over tinder. Generally people learn best with challenges that are difficult but not overly so, so I will mostly aim to approach and go on dates with an even amount of 6s and 7s, and maybe only very rarely an 8
3) I will hammer hard to fundamentals, there are still some things that still I can improve on, and at this point I shouldn't be making basic mistakes.
Exercises (even during monk mode, spend time at home working on this) to improve humor, flirting, charismatic conversation and so on
In the field focus on fundamental strategic elements, always make sure to be playful and sexual, always be approaching and aggressively closing, I especially need to tighten up my killer instinct. when out don't let myself get discouraged but keep at it.
There is in general some "X factor" that is affecting me, in that a guy who looks worse than me can do and say the same thing as me and get a better result usually, and it seems there's a vibe issue of "stiff / stifled / unexpressive" and maybe in the long run strategy #1 will help, but otherwise I've tried millions of things to address the vibe specifically which were all a waste of time, so I will focus on the factors that are within my control.
Otherwise I've had coaching, one is more of a classic banter and verbal game fundamentals game who said my dates were just too boring and gave me the exercises to work on being more generally interesting, and also playful and flirtatious.
I will also make sure to practice this deep diving thing to build more of an emotional connection, as I also heard the conversations were too surface level.
I had another coach for daygame specifically. He was helpful in teaching boldness and leading and escalation on the approach. For some reason I found getting girls giggling a lot from skills learned from the first guy was not as effective as some of the things I learned from the second coach, with whom at my very best I could get a date out of 50 approaches or something, but usually with an 8+, but nothing would happen on the date (not since maybe 50 dates and many years ago)
I will in general set myself up to be happy alone. I'd like a cute sweet highly sexual ltr and will do my best to improve myself to get this, but I'll try to let go of that outcome as well, and become perfectly content with being single as well, indefinitely. But of course I'd regret it if I don't give it a significant attempt once more in my 30s, as I will probably be too busy to be doing exercises on being witty and flirtatious in my 40s.
But at the same time there are also things here I need to get right especially my future vision and financial situation, so I will have to balance my time carefully.
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Some other strategic considerations: I live in east-central europe. The two most successful guys I knew were:
1) narcissistic talkative British business owner
2) wacky goofy silly Turkish guy
I'm a bit of a "strong silent" type, but I don't know anyone who is successful like that. I don't resemble these two guys at all.
It has been said that the main place for daygame, the shopping street, is overrun with puas and has become almost like a megaclub in women's expectations and reactions. Plus that street tends to attract more status-climbing and gold digging types of women, rather than more calmer nicer girls. So I will aim to diversify where I meet them, and especially want to train myself to be able to do it "off duty" but also there are not many places to go with high traffic.
With regards to dates I've tried already, and will keep cycling through (as in trying all of them and seeing what works best, but so far haven't found a pattern) between an aggressive one date lay versus the blackdragon two date model versus the slow play three date one. With some of the eastern european immigrants in particular, they are a bit slower. But I've tried all three and it isn't clear what the best is in terms of time wasted relative to success rate
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