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Hi,
Since I've started to approach and touch recently, progress with myself is going really fast. That started to get me into lots of situations with different girls and I started to observe the power struggle between man and woman when it comes to seduction, dating and eventually relationships.
I read something about team relationship elsewhere on the board and somehow that mindset got stuck with me ever since.
I'm just wondering though, what are your toughts about using a 'team' mindset early on in the whole pickup. It seems to be okay to use, but I've still to get a girl in bed due to inexperience on the getting physical part (but I feel I'm getting there, since I took note on how people start to feel better when touch is involved).
So this is just beginners theory here. I'm currently running this 3 rule 'team' mindset in my head (in order of priority):
1) It's about what I want. She can't change what I want for myself, unless she can come up with the logic that benefits myself.
2) It's about what she wants. I can't directly change what she wants, but she can change herself (and I can help her think differently, with logic)
3) Finally it's about what we want together. When this matches, it is when things go forward . This is not because I push her to move things forward, or that I let her lead and let me do stuff against my better judgement.
With this mindset I feel I'm running a lesser leader role, since I'm ying yanging between edge and nice guy, only with a slight preference to edge. But somehow it feels good and the girls seem to open to me. Some girls will move fast because they want to. Other girls move when they are ready for it, as I slowly work on changing their mindset about me, about us, or by meta framing. And some girls will go aloof and wonder what they want themselves at the cost of getting things forward.
Is this healthy, or do you always prefer to push girls no matter what and show what a strong leader you are? (especially the aloof girl part is annoying me, but the succes of moving others, especially those that need a little confincing, is what confuses me)
Since I've started to approach and touch recently, progress with myself is going really fast. That started to get me into lots of situations with different girls and I started to observe the power struggle between man and woman when it comes to seduction, dating and eventually relationships.
I read something about team relationship elsewhere on the board and somehow that mindset got stuck with me ever since.
I'm just wondering though, what are your toughts about using a 'team' mindset early on in the whole pickup. It seems to be okay to use, but I've still to get a girl in bed due to inexperience on the getting physical part (but I feel I'm getting there, since I took note on how people start to feel better when touch is involved).
So this is just beginners theory here. I'm currently running this 3 rule 'team' mindset in my head (in order of priority):
1) It's about what I want. She can't change what I want for myself, unless she can come up with the logic that benefits myself.
2) It's about what she wants. I can't directly change what she wants, but she can change herself (and I can help her think differently, with logic)
3) Finally it's about what we want together. When this matches, it is when things go forward . This is not because I push her to move things forward, or that I let her lead and let me do stuff against my better judgement.
With this mindset I feel I'm running a lesser leader role, since I'm ying yanging between edge and nice guy, only with a slight preference to edge. But somehow it feels good and the girls seem to open to me. Some girls will move fast because they want to. Other girls move when they are ready for it, as I slowly work on changing their mindset about me, about us, or by meta framing. And some girls will go aloof and wonder what they want themselves at the cost of getting things forward.
Is this healthy, or do you always prefer to push girls no matter what and show what a strong leader you are? (especially the aloof girl part is annoying me, but the succes of moving others, especially those that need a little confincing, is what confuses me)