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Rakehell

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Hey guys so I just had an epiphany and I wanted to get it written down before it gets washed away by the strong current which is my brain.

So here it is. The concept of “shit tests”, or value tests, or tests in general when it comes to seduction have always been one of those terms that was foggy to me.

Most information on seduction i’d been aware of before even reading it just off of personal experience. But shit tests have never been something that resonated with my mind. The only thing I could compare me trying to grasp the concept to is something like being told how to solve a really long really complicated algebra problem.

But while I was on lunch today talking with this girl who’s very attracted to me, she hit me with a polarizing question seemingly out of nowhere.

I’ll fill you guys in on the question later, but once it rang through my ear drums, it was like time froze and my brain was moving really fast. At that moment I was thinking “THIS, THIS IS IT!!”. And immediately came up with a response. She then walked away, came back, and invited me outside away from everyone else.

Now for the question. I am a long haired individual, it is jet black and curly and pairs well with my golden complexion. I wear it in a bun going toward the back. I’ll just say i’m 95% secure in my appearance on most days looks wise excluding fashion etc.

This girl who I was aware had the hots for me but always plays it rather aloof for whatever reason asked me a simple question. “Why do you wear your hair like that?” in a skeptical tone. I realized she was attempting to see how i’d react to the question. This obviously would have flustered anyone who was insecure in their appearance. But not me. So I responded by looking deep into her eyes smiling and saying nothing at all. She the became flustered, walked away, and you know the rest. Eureka!!

It was like finally finding the last word on a crossword puzzle that you’d spent days on. It was like finally finding the answer to a trigonometry question you’d skipped over and came back to 3 times.

I’m not sure why the concept never clicked to me when other people explained it but I get it now atleast a tiny bit. So this leads me to my questions and I need you guy’s help.

Is it safe to say that shit tests are any piece of a woman’s dialogue, that seems like it wants to provoke an unfavorable response? For example in my story was she trying to see if i’d become defensive? If I’d reacted defensively would that have been me failing the test?

And if so, what are the best ways to respond to a woman’s test in order to gain the upper hand in the interaction?

Is expecting to be tested the best way to prepare for tests?
Kind of like keeping your guard up around a snaggle tooth kid known for kicking people in the nuts?

These are all the epiphanies I experienced while rolling the interaction around in my head. Let me know if i’m on the right track. I swear the more I focus on girls the more it feels like a game that women play everyday without most men’s conscious knowing. It’s possible I’ve just responded favorably to these tests because i'm generally confident, but I could see myself responding in a distasteful way if they had struck a sensitive chord. I feel so relieved in my ability to handle things going forward because knowing anything is half the battle so i’m told.
 

Nicko

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Hey guys so I just had an epiphany and I wanted to get it written down before it gets washed away by the strong current which is my brain.

So here it is. The concept of “shit tests”, or value tests, or tests in general when it comes to seduction have always been one of those terms that was foggy to me.

Most information on seduction i’d been aware of before even reading it just off of personal experience. But shit tests have never been something that resonated with my mind. The only thing I could compare me trying to grasp the concept to is something like being told how to solve a really long really complicated algebra problem.

But while I was on lunch today talking with this girl who’s very attracted to me, she hit me with a polarizing question seemingly out of nowhere.

I’ll fill you guys in on the question later, but once it rang through my ear drums, it was like time froze and my brain was moving really fast. At that moment I was thinking “THIS, THIS IS IT!!”. And immediately came up with a response. She then walked away, came back, and invited me outside away from everyone else.

Now for the question. I am a long haired individual, it is jet black and curly and pairs well with my golden complexion. I wear it in a bun going toward the back. I’ll just say i’m 95% secure in my appearance on most days looks wise excluding fashion etc.

This girl who I was aware had the hots for me but always plays it rather aloof for whatever reason asked me a simple question. “Why do you wear your hair like that?” in a skeptical tone. I realized she was attempting to see how i’d react to the question. This obviously would have flustered anyone who was insecure in their appearance. But not me. So I responded by looking deep into her eyes smiling and saying nothing at all. She the became flustered, walked away, and you know the rest. Eureka!!

It was like finally finding the last word on a crossword puzzle that you’d spent days on. It was like finally finding the answer to a trigonometry question you’d skipped over and came back to 3 times.

I’m not sure why the concept never clicked to me when other people explained it but I get it now atleast a tiny bit. So this leads me to my questions and I need you guy’s help.

Is it safe to say that shit tests are any piece of a woman’s dialogue, that seems like it wants to provoke an unfavorable response? For example in my story was she trying to see if i’d become defensive? If I’d reacted defensively would that have been me failing the test?

And if so, what are the best ways to respond to a woman’s test in order to gain the upper hand in the interaction?

Is expecting to be tested the best way to prepare for tests?
Kind of like keeping your guard up around a snaggle tooth kid known for kicking people in the nuts?

These are all the epiphanies I experienced while rolling the interaction around in my head. Let me know if i’m on the right track. I swear the more I focus on girls the more it feels like a game that women play everyday without most men’s conscious knowing. It’s possible I’ve just responded favorably to these tests because i'm generally confident, but I could see myself responding in a distasteful way if they had struck a sensitive chord. I feel so relieved in my ability to handle things going forward because knowing anything is half the battle so i’m told.
Recieving shit test is a good sign, Women/girls do it sub-consciously because they like you.

it is a filter mechanisms in their brains, to filter the ones that can stand against a women’s/ girls.

those who fail are deemed as less value then them and attraction takes a hit

those who pass their attractions soar

Think it this way: In this case ur a high value guy and a girl finds u attractive and whats to see if ur congruent

she will sub-consciously test u like for this instant the girl who questioned about your hair

and you passed! congrats now she likes u even more.

Shit test can be seen as a frame grab, testing you if you are truly who you say who are in this case a attractive high value guy.

like a common shit test in clubs would be ‘hey nice shirt i like it’

Testing your frame, if your frame is stronger then hers making her chase you when she tests you

you respond
‘I know but ur quick to please ;)

There is plenty of ways to respond to shit-tests for example:

1. amplify and exaggerate,

2.ignore it(deeming her test is so low value u pretend to not notice it)

3. negging( old school method and is out of date, don’t try to bother attempting it since its the least efficient one of dealing with shit tests)

4. simply reply in a confident manner

Generally responding to her in a very self assured way will pass the shit test without putting much thought unless its a very specific shit test like

‘how many girls friends u have’

Shit test comes in all kinds and shapes as they require context and how she perceive you.

To change ur mindset in a better light think of it its: One of the ways a girl would flirt with you if they finds you attractive.

like a cute girl wants to double down on you with a bag of chocolates, teddy bears and a moist dessert down below for you later ;)

don’t forget that shit-tests don’t mean they actually mean ill-intent its just a evolutionary mechanism for girls to determine that they perceive as high value
 

Rakehell

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Shit test can be seen as a frame grab, testing you if you are truly who you say who are in this case a attractive high value guy.

like a common shit test in clubs would be ‘hey nice shirt i like it’

Testing your frame, if your frame is stronger then hers making her chase you when she tests you

you respond
‘I know but ur quick to please ;)
Thanks Nicko you’ve broadened my perspective even more :). Now in reference to this part i’d never considered that compliments could be considered shit tests. When people compliment me my auto pilot response is usually a thank you with a smile. Are you saying I should treat compliments the same way as shit tests that may come off rude in the moment?
 

Nicko

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Thanks Nicko you’ve broadened my perspective even more :). Now in reference to this part i’d never considered that compliments could be considered shit tests. When people compliment me my auto pilot response is usually a thank you with a smile. Are you saying I should treat compliments the same way as shit tests that may come off rude in the moment?
hey! @sunking

I have received compliments during my interaction with girls and they are considered a good sign, they usually express their interest to you

Getting shit test can happen inside a compliment, like a back handed compliment

However from my experience or general experience during day game, getting shit tests are much more subtle especially with more aloof/flirty type girls

The compliment shit test: i used was a bad example

‘nice shirt I like it’

its in a club context and they’re many factors

They usual way of telling if the compliment is a shit test or not from a girl/guy is the genuineness from the comment.

for example:
Guys will shit test each other like for fun/banter or as a mean of a insult

‘Nice cut bro! you should get a mullet instead!’

context applies: if ur friends you guys would laugh it off and go at it each other but if u 2 were not very close and there is a sense of disrespect then its different

they will perceive you on how would u respond. same idea for girls

it is a social low value behaviour as it crushes another person social value to gain social value

it is better to build each other social value but you need to know how to respond to shit tests that are hidden in compliments from dudes out of respect and dignity

however In this case is girls:

For girls who give u compliments when they like you its a for sure good sign, so you can lower your guard a little bit and enjoy the moment

context and congruence applies, if something seems off then it’s mostly a shit test like she’s teasing you/shit testing (which is cute) u for example

‘Omgg your hair is so soft and cute i want to touch it’

its in a good nature and you can tease her back with a back handed compliment, re-frame and flirt with each other

Your gut sense will usually tell you if its ill-intent or its for good fun :)

responding to a compliment from a girl negatively if she likes you/finds you attractive can hurt attainability

From my experience shit tests can correlate with their personality like louder/fun girls got a more teasing vibe and they will at times throw shit tests as a mean of good fun.

your way of replying to the compliments from girls are already good, i do it with out thinking as well so don’t think too much about it.

re-frame to make her seem that she is chasing you doesn’t hurt

-Nicko :)
 
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Rakehell

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hey! @sunking

I have received compliments during my interaction with girls and they are considered a good sign, they usually express their interest to you

Getting shit test can happen inside a compliment, like a back handed compliment

However from my experience or general experience during day game, getting shit tests are much more subtle especially with more aloof/flirty type girls

The compliment shit test: i used was a bad example

‘nice shirt I like it’

its in a club context and they’re many factors

They usual way of telling if the compliment is a shit test from not from a girl/guy is the genuineness from the comment.

for example:
Guys will shit test each other like for fun/banter or as a mean of a insult

‘Nice cut bro! you should get a mullet instead!’

context applies: if ur friends you guys would laugh it off and go at it each other but if u 2 were not very close and there is a sense of disrespect then its different

they will perceive you on how would u respond. same idea for girls

it is a social low value behaviour as crushes another person social value to gain social value

it is better to build each other social value but you need to know how to respond to shit tests that are hidden in compliments from dudes out of respect and dignity

however In this case is girls:

For girls who give u compliments when they like you its a for sure good sign, so you can lower your guard a little bit and enjoy the moment

context and congruence applies, if something seems off then it’s mostly a shit test like she’s teasing you/shit testing (which is cute) u for example

‘Omgg your hair is so soft and cute i want to touch it’

its in a good nature and you can tease her back with a back handed compliment, re-frame and flirt with each other

Your gut sense will usually if they mean ill-intent or its for good fun :)

responding to a compliment from a girl negatively if she likes you/finds you attractive can hurt attainability

From my experience shit tests can correlate with their personality like louder/fun girls got a more teasing vibe and they will at times throw shit tests as a mean of good fun.

your way of replying to the compliments from girls are already good, i do it with out thinking as well so don’t think too much about it.

re-frame to make her seem that she is chasing you doesn’t hurt

-Nicko :)
All great advice. I feel like a fog has been lifted off of my eyes and I can see whats in front of me more clearly now. I have a feeling being consciously aware of this stuff for the first time will help take my game to the next level. Thanks Nicko ;)
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

Nicko

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All great advice. I feel like a fog has been lifted off of my eyes and I can see whats in front of me more clearly now. I have a feeling being consciously aware of this stuff for the first time will help take my game to the next level. Thanks Nicko ;)
Hope to see you around! ;)
 
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