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Railer

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I went down memory lane today.

It was in May 2008 that I discovered pickup, joined mASF and started to push limits. I remember my dad suggesting to take off that hat I used for pea-cocking. It made him feel uneasy xD

I got the girl though.

On the way from sightseeing to lunch I had her drive with me, found us a spot in the greens and we fucked. Then we joined back up with family as if nothing had happened. Damn was I proud.

The year before, 2007, I had already gotten some extra lays while travelling. On one, the hostel had run out of space having to put me and that dream girl into the same room for a night. She in her bed over there, me here in mine here, chatting. Every time I was about to give up and just sleep, she would start talking to me again - and the other way around. Until I finally took heart. I think I simply asked if she wanted me over in her bed. We had to fuck super-slowly, because she said she'd always bleed. She still bled.

In 2009 one girl came directly over to my place, early, for "breakfast", styled as if going out at night. The moment I saw her like this, I knew it was on. Up until today I have no clue how she even knew she wanted me. I suspect I got recommended. For my part, I knew her only from her profile.

I kept studying. My reasoning: "If I am already attractive, what may happen if I max out game on top of that?"

Fast forward some years, to 2012, after two LTR's, I had two blowjobs, a hand job and eight lays - all except one with girls from my home country, the one visiting from a neighbouring one. That one had me totally crazy for her. She was just enjoying her summer though.

Another was when we were about to leave the club, I convinced my friend to just try one more set. We know that "never works", right? I opened two girls. For some reason they had to - or wanted to - take the bus instead of joining us in the car for the 30-minute drive. That was at 1 or 2 a.m. They actually showed. To this day I have pics from her MySpace. Damn was she cute.

After crushing hard on a girl that wasn't good for me, I found myself again in disbelief, in 2014 when somehow the main promotion girl of a spring-break-type event started to chase me. The only thing I did was stand straight and play it cool when I took off my sunglasses the first time we talked.

Writing this, I realize I was never aware of the effect I had on girls. My negativity-filter was pretty much always on. I was never the "jerk"-type but somehow, on occasion, girls saw it in me and got very turned on.

By the end of that year I had discovered Jesse Charger's content - a very sexual approach to meeting women.

Incidentally, 2015 I was back up again at eleven sexual encounters.

2015 the most fun experience was when I put my dick into a girl that I took to do stand-up pedalling. Out there in the lake we used the board to sustain ourselves. Making my way into her right there in the water? Priceless. I couldn't go long - it was just too good to be true and I would have come within a minute ...

The same year I ran into a 17yo while walking with a friend. We kissed within the first couple of words exchanged. I remember how we drove her to another date she had and felt obliged to show up at. We waited outside in the car and after 10 minutes she was back with me. I even bought her a rose ... and spent a long waking night with her, kissing and talking. When she turned 18, I travelled to see her again. I was so thrilled to be her first ...

Apparently that was about the time I registered here.

In 2016 I had so many girls, I'd be embarrassed naming the count. I'd loose some of the best girls of my life due to wanting to date the next ... and I was falling in and of of love too. One girl I slow-opened, GC-style, I ended up kissing after escorting her to her building in the morning - though she wasn't available. She had me totally crazy for her too. To rid herself of her desires she'd instead scratch or slap me - out in the bars! One bouncer was like "Whoa!" When I finally invited another girl to my place for fun, I found a voice message from that girl in the morning, drunk, asking me to come to the bars, because she "needed me". I think she later mentioned that she had even walked towards my building to see if she could find me.

That year, at some party island, I also had my first threesome. After laying a girl at my room, I escorted her to her stay. We had to wait outside the door for another guy to finish with her friend. Then he left. We entered. I pushed my girl on the bed where her friend was lying and, over her shoulder, kissed the friend. I think I never was that happy in my life - waking up between two naked girls, each of my hands grabbing one butt.

I also realized that this instated some fear of not being able to ever repeat this - much less with consistency. To this day it reminds me of how Buddhism kind of warns about this effect.

2017 was on-par with previous success. I think one positive factor at that time was me going out with female friends. At one point I had two girls on rotation, each one visiting one day of the week. Again, I fell in love with some other girl this year, but she didn't want anything more. A fun remark came from a 20yo I had taken home: She thought she was a big exception for me, being so much younger than I. I liked her thinking that :)

I remember in 2018 a new friend asking my existing ones what it was about me: He thought all the girls in the club were staring and going crazy. It didn't make any sense to him. And neither did it to me. I never consciously knew where that effect was coming from - actually, I never noticed it myself. How could others be seeing it and not me? The very same night, I couldn't get the girl I fancied. And that's the way it pretty much always went.

This same year, I found my MLTR. Although quantity went down with other girls, I ended up fucking yet another - one of the most stunning ones - mostly by ignoring her over the course of half a year. I invited her to the hotel pool, but within 30 minutes we were already in the room - I just couldn't stand how horny I was for her anymore. I remember advertising that I wouldn't last a minute the first time we'd do it. Me taping my dick sliding into her didn't really help to lower my excitement xD This girl currently has close to 50 thousand followers on Instagram.

Once again less encounters than the year before, I'd think I was post my prime in 2019, but there was still some high quality. I remember watching "Lucifer" back then. In Ibiza, one model that was partying with our guys the night before, showed up in a stylish blazer. She immediately reminded me of Detective Decker. It turned out she fancied the series too and we role-played our way back to my room - even before the party started. While my friends were wasting money for tables, I was inside this super hot girl. Towards the end she said "I wanted to tell you that it hurts me a bit, but then I realized that I kinda like the pain so I didn't say anything" and bursted into embarrassed laughter.

In the beginning of 2020 I had two encounters with girls that I consider the objectively most-beautiful in my life. One I recently mentioned in my journal ... I had to keep texting her even though she wouldn't respond on many occasions ... until finally she agreed to come to my place. She didn't even seek to do any romantic stuff beforehand. She sucked like a pro and all I remember is being stunned by her perfection ... and not being able to get fully hard - not at night and not in the morning after waking up together.

The other was so crazy about me, I couldn't believe it. I had chat her up outside the club just to not end up beating myself up for not doing so. We danced only a bit. Then we had to sneak out of the venue, but her friend noticed. She was screaming at us from afar, complaining about us leaving her behind like that. My girl told me to just ignore her and keep walking xD We hurried to fuck quickly so she could get back ASAP. Later, a friend who had seen me on the way, congratulated me on that girl.

I remember how some of my friends were excited about online-game in 2021. But for me life was tough. Lays went far down - to only two, total. I guess the one I did get, received all the charged up energy. She got fucked like two or three hours straight. Even months later she would text me about that night. Oh and I had kissed her friend too: Already at my place, while we were standing together, I had asked my girl if she was okay with it. The friend then wanted to leave early though - she had just started something with a guy back in her country and didn't think it was correct to join us for the fun.

Then, in 2022, after having gone through a lot of shit, nothing worked any more. I slept with my MLTR though - and loved it as always <3

Anybody up for it can tell from my journals: In 2023, I am still far from where things used to be. 100 approaches - 1 lay. I don't really feel comfortable about looking for lays any more. Girls are intimidated, don't respond much or well. I notice I'm not too anxious when chatting them up. That may sound good, but it's merely a sign that I'm simply not excited. It's probably because I don't really think I can get the girls in the first place ... while at the same time feeling somehow entitled, which is a very bad. I know.


Anyway, much of the success was thanks to being guided by pickup material. In the beginning, things like Mystery Method got me to at least have some structure, which led me to approach more and handed ideas on how to continue.

Jesse's stuff had me excited about living out sexuality, which hooked girls to repeat the encounters.

And, finally, GirlsChase helped me hammer out the kinks and get me to a naturally cool style.

Over the years I processed 200 GC-articles and newsletters, resulting in some 1600 lines of notes taken. The content is invaluable.

Thanks, Chase, and anyone working at it with you. Your meticulous research does make a difference!

As for me personally, I don't know were I'll take things from here. I don't know if I'm too old, too bold or too weak. I still keep falling in and out of love. I'd like those things to turn out well ... and be somewhat lasting.

I'll be on the lookout for new approaches to joy - and see if there aren't other levels that have yet to be discovered ...
 
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Chase

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Really fun experiences, @Railer. Thanks for sharing all these, man.

It's great to read about your progression over the years.

As for me personally, I don't know were I'll take things from here. I don't know if I'm too old, too bold or too weak. I still keep falling in and out of love. I'd like those things to turn out well ... and be somewhat lasting.

You're never too old, unless your knees aren't working or the dementia's got you confused ;)

Nothing wrong with falling in and out of love. @Karea Ricardus D. has mentioned that always happens for him with his new girlfriends... and he's as big a pro out there as there is. Always ends up flipping the dynamic in the end to where he is on top, but if you're a guy with a romantic streak, no sense trying to stymie it.

Not sure how old you are, but PUAs who get into settled relationships usually tend to do so later. I wouldn't worry too much about age... if you're getting "that feeling" that you want something more lasting, it probably means you're switching over to that phase. I've had a fair few guys tell me they were "just starting to think about" that, and then within a few years they're married / first kid's on the way / etc.

If it's what you want, you'll get there, especially if you're going out and meeting chicks and they are chicks you like.

Here's to many more adventures and those new approaches to joy!

Chase
 

Railer

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That’s comforting :)

Exclusive 1:1 relationship isn’t really on my table.

1:2, though, could convince me of having kids.

The general sentiment seems to be that this only causes stress, but I think it possible and fulfilling.

You’re never too old

I’m about to turn 40. Met a gorgeous ~19yo the other night, but I find it hard to "push those buttons".

The fact of my girl-friend holding my hand as she led me through the venue got her attention. Then the girl even opened the set for me, which added value. Good conversation, touch, persistence … but the girl barely responded the next day.

So as for the "young" zone I am at a point where I wonder "What else do you want?" "There’s a guy with all the resources and life skills any girl could ask for and you aren’t even capable of recognizing the scarcity of the opportunity."

The 30+ category is rather easy, but I barely find myself interested there. Even the girl helping there, 30 herself, kept grabbing my dick and putting my hand on her butt. When I suggested to pick up that teen together for a threesome she said she’s open to whatever I wanted.

I’m getting those girls from back in the day™️ back into my life, as friends. The female company and energy is calming and supporting. This week I had two sleep over. I keep touch and put out invites for innocent encounters to those who don’t expect sex.

As for love, it’s conservative charismatic girls for me. One I recently met causes me unique serenity simply by being there …
 

Chase

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@Railer,

1:2, though, could convince me of having kids.

The general sentiment seems to be that this only causes stress, but I think it possible and fulfilling.

Well, I tried getting exactly that setup in place, but oh boy the drama, let me tell you, amigo. And that's even before the busybody neighbors were at the point of wondering "why are those two women over at his place together?"

If you've read a lot of my stuff maybe I'm just repeating myself, but...

Had long conversations about this back in the day with The Asian Rake back before he thought I was a toxic super villain or something. We hashed it out as far as it could go before deciding it's nice in theory but unworkable in reality unless you're willing to move way out into the sticks or to a society that expressly supports it. Otherwise even if the girls are on-board sooner or later you run into the cultural immune system and everyone around you just starts attacking the relationship like a foreign body in a host.

I know Zan ran a relationship like this for I think almost a year. In his case, I believe it started off as a threesome with two 19 y/o girlfriends and he just continued seeing both and had a threeway LTR. One of the girls ended up being too much trouble and he eventually cut her loose and stuck with just the one girl. That might be the better path to go if you want to experiment though... start with a threesome with two chicks who're already friends, then make it a threeway relationship from there.

I think the idea of non-bisexual co-wives is simply too foreign to any woman outside the Middle East, parts of Africa, or the Mexican LDS. You could try to train and condition it into women but it'd be a full time job. You can't do that and also work. You'd need to be a cult leader.

Anyway, not to throw cold water on it. I'd love to see somebody prove me wrong.

If you ever figure it out and get it working long-term, etc., you're 2-3 years in and it's a stable live-in mLTR with the girls exclusive to you, or even pregnant or nursing at that point, and you're not in a Muslim country or the Mexican LDS, I'd be fascinated to hear about how you pulled it off :D

p.s., on this, the Chinese-language film Raise the Red Lantern gives a great look at a long-term co-wives situation with carefully constructed rules to manage the wives... things still go wrong within the household anyway of course (well, it wouldn't be a drama if nothing did):


The book Exemplary Women of Ancient China is filled with moral instruction for women on how to be good co-wives, so might be a worthy primer to have chicks go through if you're working to set that up, though I couldn't tell you exactly how you'd want to go about that (many of the examples are quite extreme in their level of moral self-sacrifice / "husband comes first"):


The fact of my girl-friend holding my hand as she led me through the venue got her attention. Then the girl even opened the set for me, which added value. Good conversation, touch, persistence … but the girl barely responded the next day.

So as for the "young" zone I am at a point where I wonder "What else do you want?" "There’s a guy with all the resources and life skills any girl could ask for and you aren’t even capable of recognizing the scarcity of the opportunity."

Well then perhaps it isn't resources and life skills she's looking for.

I'll tell you a big secret... the vast majority of the girls I've been with have never had the remotest idea what my resources are or aren't, nor do they have much of an idea about what life skills I may or may not have, aside from perhaps a few choice skills.

Whenever you find yourself saying to yourself, "Obviously XYZ person doesn't appreciate ABC thing!" the very next thing to do is turn right around, look at yourself, and answer back with, "You know what, that is an excellent point, me. Excellent point. I wonder what XYZ person DOES value?"

Perhaps worth a read:


The 30+ category is rather easy, but I barely find myself interested there. Even the girl helping there, 30 herself, kept grabbing my dick and putting my hand on her butt. When I suggested to pick up that teen together for a threesome she said she’s open to whatever I wanted.

Yes, that happens when you pass 30 while having your shit sufficiently together. Women still single over 30 suddenly realize there are a lot fewer available men, a lot of the ones who are still available suck, because many of the better ones have been snapped up, and lots of the good ones who are left can and often do just date younger girls than them. These women themselves can't date younger because younger men aren't as established, experienced, or at the same point in life as them yet. So they adjust to their much-shrunken dating pool by becoming a lot more assertive.

I’m getting those girls from back in the day™️ back into my life, as friends. The female company and energy is calming and supporting. This week I had two sleep over. I keep touch and put out invites for innocent encounters to those who don’t expect sex.

That's really nice.

As for love, it’s conservative charismatic girls for me. One I recently met causes me unique serenity simply by being there …

She sounds like a sweetheart!

Chase
 

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I think the idea of non-bisexual co-wives is simply too foreign to any woman outside the Middle East, parts of Africa, or the Mexican LDS. You could try to train and condition it into women but it'd be a full time job. You can't do that and also work. You'd need to be a cult leader.

Anyway, not to throw cold water on it. I'd love to see somebody prove me wrong.

If you ever figure it out and get it working long-term, etc., you're 2-3 years in and it's a stable live-in mLTR with the girls exclusive to you, or even pregnant or nursing at that point, and you're not in a Muslim country or the Mexican LDS, I'd be fascinated to hear about how you pulled it off :D
Historically , polygamy has been part of indian culture until during the period of (1880 - 1940s ) where Indian cultural reformist owing to their feeling of inferiority to British culture propagated a lot against polygamy and got it banned legally .

But , here is the crux , in india , even now , depending on WHO YOU ARE , WHERE YOU LIVE , (both HINDU and MUSLIM) , men have married more than one women .

Because, these things happen in village so media may or may not know about this . But , these things happens in very trace amounts ( compared to 1-2 century ago ) .


An example .

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...cQFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1W4oTfuNrZ4uHY2zfnHG2x


Read : wives say they are very happy.
 
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Historically , polygamy has been part of indian culture until during the period of (1880 - 1940s ) where Indian cultural reformist owing to their feeling of inferiority to British culture propagated a lot against polygamy and got it banned legally .

But , here is the crux , in india , even now , depending on WHO YOU ARE , WHERE YOU LIVE , (both HINDU and MUSLIM) , men have married more than one women .

Because, these things happen in village so media may or may not know about this . But , these things happens in very trace amounts ( compared to 1-2 century ago ) .


An example .

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...cQFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1W4oTfuNrZ4uHY2zfnHG2x


Read : wives say they are very happy.
Again not refuting your stance that these things are not very common outside middleeast And like .

But , just wanted to give a perspective @Chase.

I could even write more about it .... But no desire to derail the thread and certain things are a bit controversial and I don't want them to be on this forum .
 
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