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Prologue
After feeling like shit for approximately 24 hours, I went out last night continuing to feel like shit. Both the bitterness at having to leave this idyllic life I'd lived for a few months, and the anger at failing the previous night. But it was a new night, and I was determined to not let my state control me.
Before going out, I prepped with meditation exercises, eating a small meal, and some light stretching. I dressed in my usual-all black and a peacocking blazer. Still looks fantastic.
I initially went to a couple of venues, but there were not that many people, due to a city wide festival happening elsewhere. Unbothered, I focused on making mild conversation on my walk to my usual venue. I asked two girls for directions.
The Open-Hook
I eventually made it to my venue at 9:45PM. It’s way too early to be there. Part of my coaching with Alek has been to focus on how to pass this time until peak without negatively affecting the perception people in the venue have of me. Eventually some time passes and foot traffic (while still low) starts to pick up. I make a lap around the venue, and as I’m walking to the bar, I notice a girl in fairly casual wear (think athletic clothing) standing by herself. She has a very beautiful face, but the clothes hide her body. I had noticed her walking towards the bar and then pausing. I body rock and mention how I like the vibe of the venue. She misunderstands me, but I turn it around quickly enough. I make use of pacing and stories to get the hook point-talking about the traveling and visiting friends in other countries that the girl brings up. At some point here she asks me for my name and I find out she's HBCookie.
After HBCookie hooks, I create an open loop about one of the places I had traveled to, telling her I’ll show her some pictures, in order to move us to a table nearby and sit there. From here it’s some pretty basic deep diving, telling stories, and focusing on exciting, stimulating, and passionate topics. At some point I give her a high five and she holds my hand for a second longer than a normal high five.
The Dance
I try to go into some sex talk (sexual frustration gambit), using a fake story of a friend and a dude who was bad at sex to lead into it. She tells me how she feels women are worse off because they fall in love faster from sex compared to men. I pace quickly, before using fake female friends to talk about how friends I have have had casual sex without love and have felt good from it. During the first part of the sexual frustration (where you discuss frustration from bad sex), the girl tells me that the bad sex is the story of her life (poor girl). About ¾ of the way through the gambit, HBCookie starts telling me she’s feeling uncomfortable talking about sex. I very quickly (but in control) finish up the gambit, and backtrack a lot, focusing on emotionally stimulating topics, that while not sexual, still help move the interaction forward by linking me with these great feelings. In this way I try to build up social frame to better allow me to go to sex talk later. While talking, I also misunderstand what she means when she says she only wants sex with people she loves. I do a reframe here to paint casual sex as good, but I’m worried that this girl is not the type to do casual sex.
Given the negative reaction to sex talk, I focus on doing what Alek called, “sex talk lite”, and talking about some other different man-to-women conversations that occur. During this, I find out the girl had gone to the city festival with the intent of meeting a guy, but that it didn’t work out. HBCookie also had been dating a guy seriously, who she felt she strongly loved, but who she had broken up with in December (though I misheard in that moment that they’d broken up yesterday itself). She also says she was really in love with her last boyfriend, and I pace her on that before leading to a slightly more happy mindset.
I notice the music starts to pick up, and in order to not inflate the topics we are discussing (since we’ve been focusing on heavier emotionally stimulating topics), I suggest we dance (I know Alek mentions inflation in the context of sex talk-but I do wonder if it affects all other topics too?). I also want to change to physical game a bit since the sex talk didn't work as well. I figure the physicality of dancing will set some sexual frames. So we go dance-and I guess I’m not as bad a dancer as I feel that I am when I dance in a club. HBCookie marks the second attractive girl who tells me I dance well. Anyway, we dance, I make her twirl for me, we grind for a bit, and I’m whispering into her ear while we converse. I’m not the biggest fan of dancing though, so while we’re dancing I’m trying to finish my beer so I can give some plausible deniability to leave the dance floor. I will admit it was fun though to be dancing with a beautiful girl in the club.
I finish my drink, and suggest we grab another. We walk out, and because of the crowd, I grab her hand and we hold hands until we reach the bar. I ordered some drinks, myself a tequila soda, and two shots of tequila for both of us. Then we go grab another seat somewhere. I try to go into sex talk again, this time using the submission gambit. From here, I make some other comments about sex-and at this point the girl stops me and we have this exchange:
The Pull
What a funny feeling. Undoubtedly there was some luck here, but I'll take it. It also turns out she hadn’t had sex in almost three months, so…. She also tells me later that she used to do casual sex a lot more, so I think this girl is also on the more experienced side. I don’t respond to her question in an overly excited way-just in a very dominantly assertive manner. I am mildly worried she might be a prostitute, but my gut tells me that is not the case. I call an Uber as we walk to the exit. And fuck me the Uber is expensive this early in the night. Anyway, we wait for the Uber outside of the venue, and the girl asks me to kiss her. I do, and she tells me she just wanted to make sure it would be good. So I can very officially say that I am an amazing kisser-I get this compliment from nearly every girl I’m with.
HBCookie asks me where I'm staying, and she seems unhappy at how far it is. I ask her where she lives and if we can go there, but she says no, since has a roommate. I tell her we'll just go to mine then, and that I can get her an Uber back later. We get into the Uber, and it’s almost 20-30 minutes to get back to mine due to traffic. I spend most of this time telling stories. Thankfully at this point in my life, I’ve accumulated enough that I can pass the time without issue. Though because we’re both wearing masks there is no kissing in the car.
Escalating
We eventually reach my airbnb, and we get inside. I need to pee, but she tells me she needs to pee first. Alek had advised me to go first usually, but I figure in the case where the girl specifically asks to go first, it’s better to let her do that. I go to the bathroom and then come out. She wants some food and asks me to play some music. Luckily I have some dessert items and let her eat.
From here, it’s some pretty simple escalation. I kiss, she pulls off her clothes and her body is fantastically mouthwatering. She really wants to fuck, and when I try to start with oral, I can feel her being impatient. I don’t care though, if I want to tease her and make her wait, I sure will. Worth noting that I'm definitely escalating slower than HBCookie here.
Anyway, we fuck, and she cums a bunch of times. She tells me during pillow talk that she usually doesn’t cum from sex, and that this was an amazing experience.
Post-Coital
There are also some other interesting questions that I ask her and hear her answers on.
I ask her what makes her be more open to guys when they come to say hi to her. She says that direct openers will automatically make her pass on a guy, as she’s heard them all before and no longer believes them.
She also mentions about the guy she had gone to the city festival to meet, and how she didn’t do anything with him because she thought he wanted something romantic, and she just wasn’t looking for that. She was still coming out of her last relationship whom she felt in love with, and was not into anything romantic. She said that because I talked about sex a lot, that I didn’t come across that way, and because I was also classy and polite, she was interested in coming home with me. She also said she liked how I didn’t force her into any corners and gave her lots of room to make the decision on her own, without pushing her into anything.
Honestly, a surprising lay for myself. While on paper it seems like it was a freebie, I think that without sex talk, and without body rocking, this wouldn’t have worked. My vibe needed the sexual frames that sex talk provided, and I needed the low-pressure opener that body rocking provided. Both of these let the girl feel allowed and unpressured to enjoy the time with me, and give her an experience I hope she will treasure.
After feeling like shit for approximately 24 hours, I went out last night continuing to feel like shit. Both the bitterness at having to leave this idyllic life I'd lived for a few months, and the anger at failing the previous night. But it was a new night, and I was determined to not let my state control me.
Before going out, I prepped with meditation exercises, eating a small meal, and some light stretching. I dressed in my usual-all black and a peacocking blazer. Still looks fantastic.
I initially went to a couple of venues, but there were not that many people, due to a city wide festival happening elsewhere. Unbothered, I focused on making mild conversation on my walk to my usual venue. I asked two girls for directions.
The Open-Hook
I eventually made it to my venue at 9:45PM. It’s way too early to be there. Part of my coaching with Alek has been to focus on how to pass this time until peak without negatively affecting the perception people in the venue have of me. Eventually some time passes and foot traffic (while still low) starts to pick up. I make a lap around the venue, and as I’m walking to the bar, I notice a girl in fairly casual wear (think athletic clothing) standing by herself. She has a very beautiful face, but the clothes hide her body. I had noticed her walking towards the bar and then pausing. I body rock and mention how I like the vibe of the venue. She misunderstands me, but I turn it around quickly enough. I make use of pacing and stories to get the hook point-talking about the traveling and visiting friends in other countries that the girl brings up. At some point here she asks me for my name and I find out she's HBCookie.
After HBCookie hooks, I create an open loop about one of the places I had traveled to, telling her I’ll show her some pictures, in order to move us to a table nearby and sit there. From here it’s some pretty basic deep diving, telling stories, and focusing on exciting, stimulating, and passionate topics. At some point I give her a high five and she holds my hand for a second longer than a normal high five.
The Dance
I try to go into some sex talk (sexual frustration gambit), using a fake story of a friend and a dude who was bad at sex to lead into it. She tells me how she feels women are worse off because they fall in love faster from sex compared to men. I pace quickly, before using fake female friends to talk about how friends I have have had casual sex without love and have felt good from it. During the first part of the sexual frustration (where you discuss frustration from bad sex), the girl tells me that the bad sex is the story of her life (poor girl). About ¾ of the way through the gambit, HBCookie starts telling me she’s feeling uncomfortable talking about sex. I very quickly (but in control) finish up the gambit, and backtrack a lot, focusing on emotionally stimulating topics, that while not sexual, still help move the interaction forward by linking me with these great feelings. In this way I try to build up social frame to better allow me to go to sex talk later. While talking, I also misunderstand what she means when she says she only wants sex with people she loves. I do a reframe here to paint casual sex as good, but I’m worried that this girl is not the type to do casual sex.
Given the negative reaction to sex talk, I focus on doing what Alek called, “sex talk lite”, and talking about some other different man-to-women conversations that occur. During this, I find out the girl had gone to the city festival with the intent of meeting a guy, but that it didn’t work out. HBCookie also had been dating a guy seriously, who she felt she strongly loved, but who she had broken up with in December (though I misheard in that moment that they’d broken up yesterday itself). She also says she was really in love with her last boyfriend, and I pace her on that before leading to a slightly more happy mindset.
I notice the music starts to pick up, and in order to not inflate the topics we are discussing (since we’ve been focusing on heavier emotionally stimulating topics), I suggest we dance (I know Alek mentions inflation in the context of sex talk-but I do wonder if it affects all other topics too?). I also want to change to physical game a bit since the sex talk didn't work as well. I figure the physicality of dancing will set some sexual frames. So we go dance-and I guess I’m not as bad a dancer as I feel that I am when I dance in a club. HBCookie marks the second attractive girl who tells me I dance well. Anyway, we dance, I make her twirl for me, we grind for a bit, and I’m whispering into her ear while we converse. I’m not the biggest fan of dancing though, so while we’re dancing I’m trying to finish my beer so I can give some plausible deniability to leave the dance floor. I will admit it was fun though to be dancing with a beautiful girl in the club.
I finish my drink, and suggest we grab another. We walk out, and because of the crowd, I grab her hand and we hold hands until we reach the bar. I ordered some drinks, myself a tequila soda, and two shots of tequila for both of us. Then we go grab another seat somewhere. I try to go into sex talk again, this time using the submission gambit. From here, I make some other comments about sex-and at this point the girl stops me and we have this exchange:
HBCookie: You like to talk about sex a lot
Me: I find it fascinating, it’s such a-
HBCookie: Do you want to have sex with me? (Not said in a testing way)
Me: fascinating topic, and I think sex is really important. <Pause> I think sex would be fun, and exciting
HBCookie: Then let’s get out of here
Me: Okay
Me: I find it fascinating, it’s such a-
HBCookie: Do you want to have sex with me? (Not said in a testing way)
Me: fascinating topic, and I think sex is really important. <Pause> I think sex would be fun, and exciting
HBCookie: Then let’s get out of here
Me: Okay
The Pull
What a funny feeling. Undoubtedly there was some luck here, but I'll take it. It also turns out she hadn’t had sex in almost three months, so…. She also tells me later that she used to do casual sex a lot more, so I think this girl is also on the more experienced side. I don’t respond to her question in an overly excited way-just in a very dominantly assertive manner. I am mildly worried she might be a prostitute, but my gut tells me that is not the case. I call an Uber as we walk to the exit. And fuck me the Uber is expensive this early in the night. Anyway, we wait for the Uber outside of the venue, and the girl asks me to kiss her. I do, and she tells me she just wanted to make sure it would be good. So I can very officially say that I am an amazing kisser-I get this compliment from nearly every girl I’m with.
HBCookie asks me where I'm staying, and she seems unhappy at how far it is. I ask her where she lives and if we can go there, but she says no, since has a roommate. I tell her we'll just go to mine then, and that I can get her an Uber back later. We get into the Uber, and it’s almost 20-30 minutes to get back to mine due to traffic. I spend most of this time telling stories. Thankfully at this point in my life, I’ve accumulated enough that I can pass the time without issue. Though because we’re both wearing masks there is no kissing in the car.
Escalating
We eventually reach my airbnb, and we get inside. I need to pee, but she tells me she needs to pee first. Alek had advised me to go first usually, but I figure in the case where the girl specifically asks to go first, it’s better to let her do that. I go to the bathroom and then come out. She wants some food and asks me to play some music. Luckily I have some dessert items and let her eat.
From here, it’s some pretty simple escalation. I kiss, she pulls off her clothes and her body is fantastically mouthwatering. She really wants to fuck, and when I try to start with oral, I can feel her being impatient. I don’t care though, if I want to tease her and make her wait, I sure will. Worth noting that I'm definitely escalating slower than HBCookie here.
Anyway, we fuck, and she cums a bunch of times. She tells me during pillow talk that she usually doesn’t cum from sex, and that this was an amazing experience.
Post-Coital
There are also some other interesting questions that I ask her and hear her answers on.
I ask her what makes her be more open to guys when they come to say hi to her. She says that direct openers will automatically make her pass on a guy, as she’s heard them all before and no longer believes them.
She also mentions about the guy she had gone to the city festival to meet, and how she didn’t do anything with him because she thought he wanted something romantic, and she just wasn’t looking for that. She was still coming out of her last relationship whom she felt in love with, and was not into anything romantic. She said that because I talked about sex a lot, that I didn’t come across that way, and because I was also classy and polite, she was interested in coming home with me. She also said she liked how I didn’t force her into any corners and gave her lots of room to make the decision on her own, without pushing her into anything.
Honestly, a surprising lay for myself. While on paper it seems like it was a freebie, I think that without sex talk, and without body rocking, this wouldn’t have worked. My vibe needed the sexual frames that sex talk provided, and I needed the low-pressure opener that body rocking provided. Both of these let the girl feel allowed and unpressured to enjoy the time with me, and give her an experience I hope she will treasure.
