The best pickup advice I ever received

[og_pua]

I had some okay success when I first started doing pickup in New York, but what I really wanted was to meet girls from different countries, specifically Asia. My first stop was Japan, and I spent a few days there with no luck whatsoever.

I ended up meeting up with a guy from the community who lived there, who gave me a great piece of advice. This is specifically related to Asian girls, and even more specific to Japanese girls, but I think it can apply to other situations as well.

He told me that the reason I wasn't getting anywhere was because I only talked to the hottest girls I saw. First off, in Japan at least, these girls don't speak any English. Girls this hot don't need to be smart, so they don't know any other languages, and they also don't need to branch out to foreign guys - they have enough attention already from local guys. His advice was to talk to more normal looking girls. Not ugly or fat (not that you can even find them in Japan anyway). Just more average-looking girls. He said that their bodies will be just as good, and that they're probably no less attractive anyway - they just wear less makeup and sexy clothes. Most importantly, they will actually want to talk to you, and you can get them into bed.

I followed his advice, and everything changed. After that I got a lot more numbers, and eventually slept with a number of girls in different cities. One of whom was an 18 year old with huge tits, and a literal housewife that was like a MILF from a Japanese porn. The others were good too. Maybe not drop-dead gorgeous, but definitely very cute, with incredible bodies.

The following year I applied the same strategy in China, and the year after in Korea. Each time I got more confident (and more lays). By the time I made it to Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia, I was unstoppable.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any follow-up questions.

 

[Chase]

@og_pua,

Nice first post. Welcome, man!

Yeah, another thing about super hot, very made-up girls in foreign countries is they tend to be very status conscious and going with/for the high status local guys. If they're seen with a foreigner it can really hurt their rep.

One of the nice things about social mobility is you can find a lot of those less-made-up-but-still-good-looking-with-great-bodies girls in the big capitol cities who are not plugged into the social scene there, because they're from the suburbs or the countryside. The ones who are hardest to get as an outsider are always the ones who grew up in the city and are deep in the social hierarchies of those cities (and who are also very hot and status conscious).

Anyway, you travel to Asia, you travel to Eastern Europe, you meet the guys with girlfriends and wives there, and you discover those girlfriends and wives to a T almost always hailed from outside the city originally! They city-born girls are all dating high status local guys (hottest ones), or (alternately) they've already emigrated to the West (less hot ones... I was amazed how much hotter the Asian girls in Asia and EE girls in EE are when I first started traveling... then you realize, "Oh, right, the best-looking girls have no reason to leave...").

Chase

 

[DarkKnight]

The ones who are hardest to get as an outsider are always the ones who grew up in the city and are deep in the social hierarchies of those cities (and who are also very hot and status conscious).

Ah click.. I never considered this from a community view. I know that in venues regulars who know everyone are usually harder but the in-city grown girls.. this makes a lot of sense with everything I have seen.

 

[og_pua]

@og_pua,

Nice first post. Welcome, man!

Yeah, another thing about super hot, very made-up girls in foreign countries is they tend to be very status conscious and going with/for the high status local guys. If they're seen with a foreigner it can really hurt their rep.

One of the nice things about social mobility is you can find a lot of those less-made-up-but-still-good-looking-with-great-bodies girls in the big capitol cities who are not plugged into the social scene there, because they're from the suburbs or the countryside. The ones who are hardest to get as an outsider are always the ones who grew up in the city and are deep in the social hierarchies of those cities (and who are also very hot and status conscious).

Anyway, you travel to Asia, you travel to Eastern Europe, you meet the guys with girlfriends and wives there, and you discover those girlfriends and wives to a T almost always hailed from outside the city originally! They city-born girls are all dating high status local guys (hottest ones), or (alternately) they've already emigrated to the West (less hot ones... I was amazed how much hotter the Asian girls in Asia and EE girls in EE are when I first started traveling... then you realize, "Oh, right, the best-looking girls have no reason to leave...").

Chase

Thanks! And I agree, 100%.

I can't speak for EE, but the hottest girls in Asian countries - aside from maybe China, which is all about money - care more about status/reputation/fitting in than anything else, and don't want to be seen with foreigners. Even if it's what they secretly want.

The men are exactly the same way, which presents us with a good opportunity. That's because they don't want to be seen with a girl who isn't considered conventionally attractive. In most cases this means super skinny, big eyes, small lips, demure, etc. So we can easily get all the curvy feisty ones, who are much better anyway!

 

[mist]

Ok but surely there are gamers who have infiltrated the social 10 set.

Those local women inundated with their culture, bubble, and area code have surely been cracked by someone or discussed in how to circumvent the status game long enough to smash or lock her in.

language barrier more dicey but this

I find it hard to believe no man made it his mission to make this inefficient task less so

 

[og_pua]

I don't know if I've ever scored a flat out 10, but I've definitely hit some 9's and 9.5's. I guess it all just depends on priorities. Do you want to spend weeks or months to get ONE 9 or 10? Or do you want to spend the same amount of time getting dozens of 7's and 8's?

 

[DonGately]

I'll spend weeks getting a 10. I have done it twice, and also a 9.5+ [which did not take weeks!]