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Alright guys, i already explain this in a thread of i Believe @Shawn but yesterday a dude in my crew face the same issue, so i will explain here for everyone, and if it happens i just can be lazy and link this post....
1st what is plausible deniability (i kind of like this one from urban dictionary:
Now what is Bait and switch:
unfortunately dictionaries all over the place so i will give you my own definition made up by me: Is when you convince a women to be isolated with a pretext of doing or showing something and in her head she actually believes this and want to do what you promise, but she is surprised all of a sudden that it was a lie and your real intention was to try to bang her....
^ so as you can see with plausible deniability she knows the intention is sex, but she wants to save face so she can not be seen as slut or she in her head does not feel like a slut, so a branch of asd.....
So most seducers and even some instructors teach bait and switch game under plausible deniability (ex. jmlv aka John Anthony)... Is ok to do this but lower odds, but i will teach when to actually do this...
So when to use plausible deniability and how.- plausible deniability the way I USE IT, in most instances if i have to, most of the time i don't even have to now a days... I just say "Follow me", but when i use it, is NOT AS AN INFLUENCE OR SELL TECHNIQUE is not AS BAIT AND SWITCH.... I use it after a PROPER FULL SEDUCTION, in other words all the possible objections of the girl i have uncovered, she is relaxed, she is turn on, and she has agreed INDIRECTLY to sex with me in her head..... When all this element has been met... I just go "follow me" "come with me to the after party" "lets go get tacos" other seducers use "lets go get high weed/coke" a lot of the most artistic seducers such as Bachaus/top cat use "art", in my opinion it really does not matter just something you are comfortable with and is smooth and a go to that you don't even need to think about, by the way the promise does not even have to be real, the only exception drugs, don't lie about drugs in my opinion, what you use other than these things that should be avoided in my opinion:
- do not ask "would you come home with me"? = this is weak, no showing leadership, too direct, just bad vs a statement "follow me"
- do not make it too direct "lets go home to fuck" or even "lets go home" is too direct and is not helping her save face at the moment of extraction...
- do not promise drugs if you don't have them as plausible deniability
other than that it really does not matter what you use, i use at 5 am "invite me over for a cup of coffee" which is sooo ridiculous that she even was confused... Is not going to work unless she is properly CLOSED, and ready to go is the main point of using plausible deniability...
When to use bait and switch.- Well as i told you guys the seducer that ask me about this, he was not comfortable using bait and switch after the date.... He was going to use "can i use the bathroom" which is a good one to use for isolation inside her place, or even as a plausible deniability..... He did not use this, cause he instinctively knew he did not have the lay low odds, his gut feeling and instinct of seduction talking to him, he knew she was not properly closed, he did not have the confidence to ask to use the bathroom as plausible, cause he know she was not a 100% ready to go....
I used bait and switch in the past and again this is lower odds, but there are times when to use it and when not to use it.... I would not use plausible deniability if you did a lazy seduction vs a proper one.... For example i told a girl "lets go to the after party" and she was not properly seduced and had her in my bed, i hump her made out all that, but she was tense i knew it was not going to happen, i did not do second gen. Prior to isolation and i did not do pyco cause she was tense and i knew i did not have it, i did not even attempt....
^ but bait and switch has his place of usage, when to use it? if you have a girl that you know you will unlikely see her again, lets say a girl that has to go back to her country or a girl that you in your gut know you won't see her again.... Bait and switch game can be use as a hail marry, burn the boats, "make the hoe say no" "max persistence game".... I would also combine with another hail marry technique such as pyco.... But again wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lower odds vs proper seduction then using plausible deniability.... Lower oddss is better than no odds. So i would still recommend a lower odds style such as bait and switch if you know, you are unlikely to see that girl again, now or never game....
Sample of a girl using plausible deniability and civilian not getting it:
additional reading to be used with Bait and switch:
www.skilledseducer.com
1st what is plausible deniability (i kind of like this one from urban dictionary:
Now what is Bait and switch:
unfortunately dictionaries all over the place so i will give you my own definition made up by me: Is when you convince a women to be isolated with a pretext of doing or showing something and in her head she actually believes this and want to do what you promise, but she is surprised all of a sudden that it was a lie and your real intention was to try to bang her....
^ so as you can see with plausible deniability she knows the intention is sex, but she wants to save face so she can not be seen as slut or she in her head does not feel like a slut, so a branch of asd.....
So most seducers and even some instructors teach bait and switch game under plausible deniability (ex. jmlv aka John Anthony)... Is ok to do this but lower odds, but i will teach when to actually do this...
So when to use plausible deniability and how.- plausible deniability the way I USE IT, in most instances if i have to, most of the time i don't even have to now a days... I just say "Follow me", but when i use it, is NOT AS AN INFLUENCE OR SELL TECHNIQUE is not AS BAIT AND SWITCH.... I use it after a PROPER FULL SEDUCTION, in other words all the possible objections of the girl i have uncovered, she is relaxed, she is turn on, and she has agreed INDIRECTLY to sex with me in her head..... When all this element has been met... I just go "follow me" "come with me to the after party" "lets go get tacos" other seducers use "lets go get high weed/coke" a lot of the most artistic seducers such as Bachaus/top cat use "art", in my opinion it really does not matter just something you are comfortable with and is smooth and a go to that you don't even need to think about, by the way the promise does not even have to be real, the only exception drugs, don't lie about drugs in my opinion, what you use other than these things that should be avoided in my opinion:
- do not ask "would you come home with me"? = this is weak, no showing leadership, too direct, just bad vs a statement "follow me"
- do not make it too direct "lets go home to fuck" or even "lets go home" is too direct and is not helping her save face at the moment of extraction...
- do not promise drugs if you don't have them as plausible deniability
other than that it really does not matter what you use, i use at 5 am "invite me over for a cup of coffee" which is sooo ridiculous that she even was confused... Is not going to work unless she is properly CLOSED, and ready to go is the main point of using plausible deniability...
When to use bait and switch.- Well as i told you guys the seducer that ask me about this, he was not comfortable using bait and switch after the date.... He was going to use "can i use the bathroom" which is a good one to use for isolation inside her place, or even as a plausible deniability..... He did not use this, cause he instinctively knew he did not have the lay low odds, his gut feeling and instinct of seduction talking to him, he knew she was not properly closed, he did not have the confidence to ask to use the bathroom as plausible, cause he know she was not a 100% ready to go....
I used bait and switch in the past and again this is lower odds, but there are times when to use it and when not to use it.... I would not use plausible deniability if you did a lazy seduction vs a proper one.... For example i told a girl "lets go to the after party" and she was not properly seduced and had her in my bed, i hump her made out all that, but she was tense i knew it was not going to happen, i did not do second gen. Prior to isolation and i did not do pyco cause she was tense and i knew i did not have it, i did not even attempt....
^ but bait and switch has his place of usage, when to use it? if you have a girl that you know you will unlikely see her again, lets say a girl that has to go back to her country or a girl that you in your gut know you won't see her again.... Bait and switch game can be use as a hail marry, burn the boats, "make the hoe say no" "max persistence game".... I would also combine with another hail marry technique such as pyco.... But again wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lower odds vs proper seduction then using plausible deniability.... Lower oddss is better than no odds. So i would still recommend a lower odds style such as bait and switch if you know, you are unlikely to see that girl again, now or never game....
Sample of a girl using plausible deniability and civilian not getting it:
additional reading to be used with Bait and switch:
The Complete Guide to PYCO (pull your cock out)
This is going to be a very detailed break down on Pyco, why it works, how to do it, when to do it and different ways to do it, also i am going to show members that would have gotten laid with pyco and did not get laid, and a video at the end, If you do what i tell you here those near misses lays...
www.skilledseducer.com
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