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The stuff on this site about deep diving, being a conversationalist, and being open minded and non judgmental have been very helpful to me. But often I would have a girl talking A LOT, very invested in the conversation, revealing a lot about her true self, and I'm thinking Im making such great progress. Things seem to be going so well, but when I try to move things forward during an interaction (trying to close on dates), things just fall flat.
Ive learned that having good social skills and moving fast socially with girls is needed if you want to move fast with girls in general. But deep diving really well with a girl does not necessarily relate to sexual progress with her. You can also throw in some sexual eye contact and playful innuendo and find that things still fall flat.
In the end the most important thing to focus is being attractive yourself. That means being noticeably strong willed, completely believing in yourself and what you are doing at all times without a shred of self doubt, Always know exactly what the fuck you are doing, saying, and where you are going (in life). Not supplicating and looking up to others, or be able to be easily fucked with, shaken, or influenced by them either.
The thing about this thats interesting is that these attributes are hidden and you can not always see whether or not people have them just by the way they live every day life and behave in social interactions. Ive met some guys who seem alpha and above the rest at first, but turn out to be immature, unintelligent and emotionally unstable. These attributes have to come out in needed situations. This is the whole reason why women give shit tests, its because they can't clearly see whether you have these things simply by observing or having a friendly conversation with you.
Because of this guys miss out on a lot of attraction they could be getting from girls when they are just getting to know a girl and “flirting” with them. So instead of waiting for women to test us, why not find whys we can display this more often before women even start to test us.
I deep dive a lot differently lately than I did before. I used to try to get her just revealing a lot about herself and agree with everything to set myself up as being non judgmental (I still adhere to the sexual portion of this). Now I make an effort to often disagree with her, have my own beliefs and opinions and strongly reinforce them (sometimes even if I actually agreed with her). When I do agree with her I share why with my own thoughts, opinions, experiences. I do a lot less saying “yea thats cool” or “yea me too” in response to her
Basically I challenge her beliefs and show her my strength of character, will, and opinion. Now you have to make sure that you don't take it over the top and turn into a difficult, negative, one upping, annoying prick. There is a balance here. But show her how you've got sack and are resilient.
This really helps structure the interaction in a powerful dominant male – submissive female structure. And let me tell you... When you have the interaction going like this in a proper way, it will boost the reaction you get from her and move things along much easier. It almost feels like biology kicks in hard sometimes and both of you really start feeling each other. I personally believe this is much more effective than trying to just “flirt” with girls and poke at them with your sexual intentions. The change from responses I have been getting during deep diving like this have been pretty awesome.
Its like to doing the same thing that high school douche game tries to accomplish, which is putting you on top and dominating a bit (and girls respond to this in social interaction like they do physical). But you are doing it in a much more mature, smooth, and manly way (if you ask me).
Try this out for yourselves next time you guys are deep diving or just interacting with a girl and let me know how it goes. It has been really working for me.
Ive learned that having good social skills and moving fast socially with girls is needed if you want to move fast with girls in general. But deep diving really well with a girl does not necessarily relate to sexual progress with her. You can also throw in some sexual eye contact and playful innuendo and find that things still fall flat.
In the end the most important thing to focus is being attractive yourself. That means being noticeably strong willed, completely believing in yourself and what you are doing at all times without a shred of self doubt, Always know exactly what the fuck you are doing, saying, and where you are going (in life). Not supplicating and looking up to others, or be able to be easily fucked with, shaken, or influenced by them either.
The thing about this thats interesting is that these attributes are hidden and you can not always see whether or not people have them just by the way they live every day life and behave in social interactions. Ive met some guys who seem alpha and above the rest at first, but turn out to be immature, unintelligent and emotionally unstable. These attributes have to come out in needed situations. This is the whole reason why women give shit tests, its because they can't clearly see whether you have these things simply by observing or having a friendly conversation with you.
Because of this guys miss out on a lot of attraction they could be getting from girls when they are just getting to know a girl and “flirting” with them. So instead of waiting for women to test us, why not find whys we can display this more often before women even start to test us.
I deep dive a lot differently lately than I did before. I used to try to get her just revealing a lot about herself and agree with everything to set myself up as being non judgmental (I still adhere to the sexual portion of this). Now I make an effort to often disagree with her, have my own beliefs and opinions and strongly reinforce them (sometimes even if I actually agreed with her). When I do agree with her I share why with my own thoughts, opinions, experiences. I do a lot less saying “yea thats cool” or “yea me too” in response to her
Basically I challenge her beliefs and show her my strength of character, will, and opinion. Now you have to make sure that you don't take it over the top and turn into a difficult, negative, one upping, annoying prick. There is a balance here. But show her how you've got sack and are resilient.
This really helps structure the interaction in a powerful dominant male – submissive female structure. And let me tell you... When you have the interaction going like this in a proper way, it will boost the reaction you get from her and move things along much easier. It almost feels like biology kicks in hard sometimes and both of you really start feeling each other. I personally believe this is much more effective than trying to just “flirt” with girls and poke at them with your sexual intentions. The change from responses I have been getting during deep diving like this have been pretty awesome.
Its like to doing the same thing that high school douche game tries to accomplish, which is putting you on top and dominating a bit (and girls respond to this in social interaction like they do physical). But you are doing it in a much more mature, smooth, and manly way (if you ask me).
Try this out for yourselves next time you guys are deep diving or just interacting with a girl and let me know how it goes. It has been really working for me.
