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Calls & Texts  The power of "k" to none compliance/no investment/no effort....

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Tribal Elder
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First how i discover the "k" in texting...... Guys as some of you guys have field tested and witness how the "morning" and "eyes" emoji do wonders as low investment pings which is something i learned from women......... My former onitis, who is currently the one having onitis... Works in a medical field and dated guys that were shitty when it comes to texting... Anyways, part of my frustration during my seduction process was her "low investment texting".... I would do stuff i have done a million times with a million girls in texting (flirting) and she would respond with "k", i took this as super low investment, super low compliance, and took this as a yellow more redish type in the scale (i was wrong, but due to her lack of texting experience, she did not know she came across that way)....

Anyways, her silly lack of texting ability and her being so busy in the emergency room translated to me "challenge" and/or "no invested" and/or kind of telling me "Fuck you" via text subcomunication (i was wrong)... After i had sex with her, i had an honesty type session and told her, her texting comes across as no investment lack of interest and that in turns made me match her interest level (which i fixed the situation, aka i coached her for her bad texting was annoying me and would have cause me to screen her out)...

^ so what does this has to do with texting skills? When you are interacting with a girl via text and she gives you a no compliance, no investment but expects and answer, or your turn to text or __________ fill in the blank after no compliance just text "k" follow by NOTHING ELSE, just radio silence and try to hold as much as possible the radio silence....

ex.-

skills: Getting ready to pick you up tonight, i probably make it around 7 pm, is going to be so much fun...


hb: oh listen i am sorry i can't tonight something came up blah blah, without offering any alternative or sounding like bs or whatever

skills: k


Second sample

hb.- I had sooo much fun with you, i am sorry i did not let you come in tonight to my apartment i was just sooo tired blah blah.....

seducer.- k

^ follow by radio silence, the communication is "fuck you" "you fucked up and ball is in your court"

if you have done proper seduction till that point, she will re- engage and try to earn you back or ping you.... You will feel the change in her texting (obviously if you have done till that point things properly)....


k= i am disappointed, fuck you subcommunication...... DO NOT WRITE OK, DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING AFTER K, AGAIN you guys with texting diarreah and premature textension wait for her engagement.

Edit.- It could also be consider a take away...

and as you guys know which is why i did not include, cause is common pua knowledge to answer shit tests with ok.... You in this case answer to a text "shit test" with "k".

ex.- hb: if you don't stop seeing other women, then i don't want to date you anymore.......

skills: k
 
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Tribal Elder
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ok guy as always i need to clarify stuff so it does not be taken out of context. this post is about NO COMPLIANCE, NO INVESTMENT, NO EFFORT, is clear as water...

obviously if the girl is: - not feeling good, got diagnosed with cancer (one time this happened to me), got into an accident, went on a date with a guy that pull out his dick and drop her in a dumpster (happened to me), grandma died etc.... and she puts effort and emotion on the answer THEN YOU WILL NOT USE "K"

obviously you are going to be sympathetic and the post does not apply, now you reply with:

- emphaty.--- "oh woow that sucks", "oh wow that sucks, you want to talk about it?" "oh man sorry to hear" " no problem i understand" etc..... Do not over do it, any simple emphatetic statement that does not show you butt hurt....

- follow by a fake future projection: " you actually would have had a lot of fun/or a blast, but i totally understand.....

- follow by radio silence for 24 hours

- follow by a ping based on the incident problem: morning! "how is your headache?" how are you feeling?" etc.....

- then banter and at high investment soft close, then hard close, DO NOT GO FOR HARDCLOSE AFTER SHE REPLIES....

Sample:

hb: "Hey sorry, but i'll have to postpone our meet tonight -i've had a mentally very hard day today at work and can't deal with more in my head... again sorry, but i want to jump under the bed and sleep.

pua: boomer you actually would have had a lot of fun, but i understand, some other time.

hb: I have no doubt about that at all- but will look forward to something fun another time.

^ here you don't go for the close cause she is in a down stage, no reply 24 hours, follow by ping, follow by banter, high investment, soft close then hard close....

if she does this a second time, now we know she is full of shit, then k...

I know short cuts are easier but i don't do shortcuts i do high odd strategies...
 
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Railer

Cro-Magnon Man
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Just did "k" … and expected to not receive anything back, because …

obviously if you have done till that point things properly

… I think I already lacked at that part anyway.

So it was just my form of letting this girl go.

Anyway, immediately got a "thinking smiley" as response … and before I end up getting chased back to hell for screwing up everything afterwards, I ask first this time …

Girl

She pointed out after first date, that if we see each other again, it would be as "just friends".

Apparently conservative girl, so I took my shot, assuming this might just be a test for sincerity of my intentions.

Arranged second date. Good chemistry. Didn’t push for anything. We ended up holding hands. (Gay, yeah … I liked it though.)

Third encounter was unexpected and thus a bit weird - ran into each other at a bar and vibe was that she barely took my hand for some dancing.

Anyway, she didn’t accept a third invite to something innocent.

(At this point I can already hear you screaming at me about how stupid I am, but anyway, I’ll keep laying it all out, just in case.)

Context

Leaving the country for half a year. Sent a message telling her, as I would with any friend. Then added another - "wanna take me to the airport?" (Not far away. For any real friend this would be an obvious "yes".)

… and she sent a super-long response over-explaining how she was sick and shit. With words like "sorryyyy" and shit in it. You know, those messages that are so well thought out that one can just tell it’s a lie in order to evade the situation? This.

So I sent "k".

Her response: 🤔

(In theory she has some plausible deniability there, due to "kay" being something English-speakers would use … or Southpark-Fans … or she might actually not reason what it means. Whatever.)

Anyway I realize I have no idea on how to take it from here …

as always i need to clarify stuff

Like that xD

Any hints appreciated though totally aware that you might much rather ditch me down some dirty roadside instead.
 

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Just did "k" … and expected to not receive anything back, because …



… I think I already lacked at that part anyway.

So it was just my form of letting this girl go.

Anyway, immediately got a "thinking smiley" as response … and before I end up getting chased back to hell for screwing up everything afterwards, I ask first this time …
So you used it as a take away and it worked, though is better to try to do things right all along.... Though i don't know what you messed up you let that part out???
Girl

She pointed out after first date, that if we see each other again, it would be as "just friends".

No good at all, put you in a mercy and chasing position in this context.

Apparently conservative girl, so I took my shot, assuming this might just be a test for sincerity of my intentions.

Arranged second date. Good chemistry. Didn’t push for anything. We ended up holding hands. (Gay, yeah … I liked it though.)
Horrible, and you end it up with a dick in your hand fapping to pornhub....

Third encounter was unexpected and thus a bit weird - ran into each other at a bar and vibe was that she barely took my hand for some dancing.

Anyway, she didn’t accept a third invite to something innocent.

(At this point I can already hear you screaming at me about how stupid I am, but anyway, I’ll keep laying it all out, just in case.)
Good she saved you from wasting your time, after 2 encounters the chances of getting together or fucking to 3rd encounter go to total shit... Only exeption is if the sexual escalation is progressing from first to second encounter.... holding hands is not even close to even a micro escalation...

Context

Leaving the country for half a year. Sent a message telling her, as I would with any friend. Then added another - "wanna take me to the airport?" (Not far away. For any real friend this would be an obvious "yes".)
Horrible next time open, banter and at high point you can soft close with: "we should celebrate my last time here before i live over drinks" ..... Anyways friend zone is dead zone, lets be friends, means i am rejecting you in a way that i save face..... Women risk adverse they are not comfortable rejecting you , saying dude i am not interested...
… and she sent a super-long response over-explaining how she was sick and shit. With words like "sorryyyy" and shit in it. You know, those messages that are so well thought out that one can just tell it’s a lie in order to evade the situation? This.

So I sent "k".

Her response: 🤔

(In theory she has some plausible deniability there, due to "kay" being something English-speakers would use … or Southpark-Fans … or she might actually not reason what it means. Whatever.)

Anyway I realize I have no idea on how to take it from here …



Like that xD

Any hints appreciated though totally aware that you might much rather ditch me down some dirty roadside instead.
instead of okay in english k.... I dunno your language..... This is to be used for English speaking nations or other languages that have okay, otherwise would be autistic for example in spanish okay is the same, so it would work... in french d'accord i don't know if d would translate get me???
 

Railer

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You really have a gift of building people up x)

Though i don’t know what you messed up you let that part out???

that date where I had the chance to make a move

means i am rejecting you in a way that i save face.

Who knows. That was before date #2.

After she sent that "just friends" disclaimer (after date #1, regarding anything upcoming) I froze out for a week … then responded as if nothing happened - and had her come to date #2.

I was like, "well if she thinks she wants friend zone, let’s do it" … confident she’d change her mind - or that it was a test to begin with.

(It didn’t make any sense given how date #1 went. When we hopped in her car at the end, she didn’t ignite and instead kept chatting for 20 minutes. Then she gave me the ride to my place - not at my place uhoh. Again we kept chatting as if to extend the date …)

Date #2 I had her come directly to my apartment and she was excited about … pretty much everything (from the place itself, to the shit I do). Don’t wanna bore with details.

after 2 encounters the chances of getting together or fucking to 3rd encounter go to total shit

What’s the dynamic behind that? Confirmed over and over again … but why* is this such a vital factor?*

Anyway I left her smiley at "read" - for lack of any idea what to respond next.

Yeah, she’s "oneitis"-level important to me. Though now I’m gone, so, well …
 

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What’s the dynamic behind that? Confirmed over and over again … but why* is this such a vital factor?*

Anyway I left her smiley at "read" - for lack of any idea what to respond next.

Yeah, she’s "oneitis"-level important to me. Though now I’m gone, so, well …
Depending on the game style the odds of the lay go down, in my experience:

- night game if you did not close, she should close in the next encounter.... If this does not happen odds go down.

- Day game.- If you have not close after 2 encounters odds go down.

- social circle.- 1 encounter (date) maybe 2, after odds go down a lot....

^ the exception in my experience is if from 1 encounter to another there is progression in the physical sexual escalation for example in encounter 1 full make out touching everything, encounter 2 same but you got to finger her or a bj, then encounter 3 should be ok........, or logistical problems (period, emergencies, wildcards) in second encounter.

Reason is Cause women may not feel that raw sexual attraction, or rationalize why they have not slept with you as lack of chemistry, attraction, so is always better to bang them fast, to avoid friendzone..... If this girl is onitis level importance you need to look for articles on getting out of the friendzone... Mine is old and i am kj a bit since i don't get friendzone see if chase has some....
 

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Don't forget k's close cousins, "meh", "nah" and "cool". I like to use them as warning shots before or variations of the "k"
 
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