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Disclaimer.-Long post but it could be life changing, I tried to make it as short as possible, because i hate long posts, but again this is important and i will make it entertaining...
This post is very important post for the seduction community for OLDER AND YOUNG alike (the reason why i say young is cause i have seen as young as 17 in a forum with low t symptoms and levels of a 90 year old man, due to injury to the ball sack,trauma, hospitalization etc... That is why go by BLOOD TEST, NOT BY AGE), this is one of the most important things for a man and specially for a self actualized man or/and a seducer....
You will see older guys for example cough Zardoz, me etc..that have said, i am done searching for tail blah blah at one point or another, or how so many older seducers "settle down" or "get out of the community"... You have also seen younger dudes such as sexandnovalidation and recently o'pry with weird posts of low sex drive, giving up, identity crisis etc...
skills get to the point
Everything started changing for me at the age of 40 when my ex of 10 years was planning her escape and i made this post (notice my similarities to o'pry)... Note.- A dramatic experience can affect your testosterone. Guys started talking to me about low t, but i was like "dude i work out, i am in decent shape, no way" (but i had no idea what i was talking about)
This send me in a 5 year research path into studying hormones since i was scared of side effects and i was scare of a life commitment (both total kj concerns i wish i would have read a post like this).....
Now some signs of low t:
Reduced sex drive (libido). Many men experience a drop in libido as they get older, but low-T can cause a more drastic reduction, particularly in younger men.
Erectile dysfunction. Low-T can make it difficult for you to achieve and maintain an erection. Your body needs testosterone to stimulate the production of nitric oxide which triggers a set of reactions that allow for an erection to occur.
Decreased semen volume. In addition to affecting your ability to achieve an erection, low-T can also make it more difficult to ejaculate and may affect the volume of semen in your ejaculate.
Hair loss. Though hair loss is genetic for many men, low testosterone can speed up the process or cause it to affect the face and body as well as the head.
Low energy levels. Many men with low-T report a decrease in energy levels or even severe, chronic fatigue even when they get enough sleep.
Increase in body fat. When your hormone levels become imbalanced, it can affect your metabolism and the way your body burns or stores fat. When testosterone and estrogen levels are out of balance, you may gain body fat — particularly in the stomach.
Decrease in muscle mass. Testosterone plays a key role in building muscle mass so low-T might lead to a decrease in lean muscle mass. Keep in mind, however, that changes in muscle mass don’t always accompany changes in strength or muscle function.
Loss of bone mass. The hormone testosterone plays a role in producing and strengthening bone, so low-T can sometimes contribute to osteoporosis, or a loss of bone density. Low bone density may increase your risk for bone fractures and breaks.
Changes in mood. Not only does testosterone play a role in many physiological processes, but it can also impact your cognitive function and your mood. Men with low-T have a higher risk for depression, trouble concentrating, and irritability.
Sleep disturbances. Though low-T sometimes causes extreme fatigue, it may also lead to insomnia or other sleep disturbances.
My personal symptoms: I personally was working out like a mad man and eating right, and it was difficult for me to make gains (lose fat and gain muscle) despite making everything correctly...
I would have girls at clubs giving me opportunities to game them and pull them and i had no interest what so ever.
I could not hold my pee at times.
When i was having sex i could no focus on the girl and my mind started wondering all over the place.
0 drive and ambition when it came to biz, promotions etc...
my dick would not get hard and i had to get "pills" such as viagra
I would get really angry fast from 0 to 100 anger (Guys that used to be in nextasf may remember i was super angry at times)
^ Again my goal was to never go to trt due to side effect (this is kj if you do it right minimal to no side effects), I did not want to inject myself for the rest of my life (i hate injections, but i will show an alternative),expenses (is actually not expensive at all, and you will make money out of it due to the benefits), and i did not want a lifetime commitment (this is kj ridiculous excuse, don't you want TO FEEL AMAZING FOR EVER), finally i did not want to put my life on the hands on some doctor (again kj)
^ Due to all of the above objections i wanted to go natural so i started trying natural remedies such as vitamin d, zinc, aswaghanda, other herbs etc... mainly recommended by pe and other seducers...
and guess what they work for couple of weeks then my body would get used to them and back to 0, spent a bunch of money on that shit....
Finally i had enough and did a test and my total t in the 1100 which is high, but my free t (which is the important one) in the toilet about 9 from 0-30.... due to my shbg holding free t.... So i tried naturally to lower shbg it worked for couple of weeks and then:
After reading every article, reading every book and watching every video, i decide not to do trt and instead...i found proviron, (which is a mild steroid,known for getting you horny and for being oral which i found perfect, while minimal side effects and no liver damage)
Proviron worked well but after a year or so, i notice one of my knees was hurting i assume due to my lack of estrogen.... Did a blood test and my estrogen kind of low, estrogen is a female hormone but needed in men.
then i decided to go full blown with testosterone..... I decided to go for the testosterone Cream scrotal application for many reasons (note cream is NOT GEL, THE GEL IS EXPENSIVE AND WILL BURN YOUR BALLS):
-convenience, not injecting.
- higher sex drive due to spike in dht
- it increases free t the highest...(the important t)
just like the seduction community many schools of seduction, there are many fights and trt school of hormone optimization.... The school i found the best was the school of thought of NOT BLOCKING ESTROGEN.
^ So joined a facebook group of the best in trt, did my blood test, got my prescription, told the doctor what I WANTED TO DO, most doctors are clueless(and the ones of the estrogen blocking school too expensive)
then after..... TOTALLY REGRETTED IT, i looked like a total sack of potato from the bloating, see what happens at the beginning is that your body has new hormones and need to adjust so i experience:
-bloating(sack of potato look)
-emotional (told a fb that i loved her and confessed my love)
-anger (would snap)
What happens is you need to give it time for the body to adjust to the hormones, so i went to the forum of my school of trt, and i yelled at everybody and told them to fuck off, i felt mislead...
They told me to chill and to give it time for the body to adjust and not to do anything but to give it time and be patient....
I listen to the advise and then, a day after that post (3 weeks after being on trt):
-my body looks amazing
-my skin looks amazing
-sex drive is EXTREMELY CRAZY ANNOYING, hard on and tingling, i fuck my girl 3 times a day plus then masturbate twice.
- extreme energy and focus
- ambition.
-being on testosterone once optimized/dialed in is like you becoming limitless like the movie but just horny 24/7
If you want to do it this is the 2 delivery systems i recommend: either daily injection or the scrotal cream application (i personally like the cream better)
SOME IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT TESTOSTERONE:
-Give it some time to work, and only use TESTOSTERONE
-less is more, the less you can use for symptom resolution the better and the less side effect. Remember men only produce like about 7mg of testosterone a day.
-WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT BLOCK ESTROGEN PLEASE. Crashing your estrogen like bb do will result in bond loss, loss of libido etc... leave it alone.
- Do not manipulate shbg leave it alone too.... (i did this for a year so i am not kj)
- A good test of you being "optimized" and/or dialed in, and/or problems is MORNING WOOD....
- don't start throwing or mixing a bunch of compounds keep it TESTOSTERONE ONLY... Of course keep taking vitamin c, vitamin e, zinc, and magnesium.
WHAT TRT IS NOT:
- a magic pill that we get you and awesome body, if you do not work out and eat right and are fat you just will look like a fat ass on trt.
- an excuse for a younger guy that has not business being on trt use this to look like a dude on instagram
additional resources:
The best 2 delivery systems:
This post is very important post for the seduction community for OLDER AND YOUNG alike (the reason why i say young is cause i have seen as young as 17 in a forum with low t symptoms and levels of a 90 year old man, due to injury to the ball sack,trauma, hospitalization etc... That is why go by BLOOD TEST, NOT BY AGE), this is one of the most important things for a man and specially for a self actualized man or/and a seducer....
You will see older guys for example cough Zardoz, me etc..that have said, i am done searching for tail blah blah at one point or another, or how so many older seducers "settle down" or "get out of the community"... You have also seen younger dudes such as sexandnovalidation and recently o'pry with weird posts of low sex drive, giving up, identity crisis etc...
skills get to the point
Everything started changing for me at the age of 40 when my ex of 10 years was planning her escape and i made this post (notice my similarities to o'pry)... Note.- A dramatic experience can affect your testosterone. Guys started talking to me about low t, but i was like "dude i work out, i am in decent shape, no way" (but i had no idea what i was talking about)
This send me in a 5 year research path into studying hormones since i was scared of side effects and i was scare of a life commitment (both total kj concerns i wish i would have read a post like this).....
Now some signs of low t:
Reduced sex drive (libido). Many men experience a drop in libido as they get older, but low-T can cause a more drastic reduction, particularly in younger men.
Erectile dysfunction. Low-T can make it difficult for you to achieve and maintain an erection. Your body needs testosterone to stimulate the production of nitric oxide which triggers a set of reactions that allow for an erection to occur.
Decreased semen volume. In addition to affecting your ability to achieve an erection, low-T can also make it more difficult to ejaculate and may affect the volume of semen in your ejaculate.
Hair loss. Though hair loss is genetic for many men, low testosterone can speed up the process or cause it to affect the face and body as well as the head.
Low energy levels. Many men with low-T report a decrease in energy levels or even severe, chronic fatigue even when they get enough sleep.
Increase in body fat. When your hormone levels become imbalanced, it can affect your metabolism and the way your body burns or stores fat. When testosterone and estrogen levels are out of balance, you may gain body fat — particularly in the stomach.
Decrease in muscle mass. Testosterone plays a key role in building muscle mass so low-T might lead to a decrease in lean muscle mass. Keep in mind, however, that changes in muscle mass don’t always accompany changes in strength or muscle function.
Loss of bone mass. The hormone testosterone plays a role in producing and strengthening bone, so low-T can sometimes contribute to osteoporosis, or a loss of bone density. Low bone density may increase your risk for bone fractures and breaks.
Changes in mood. Not only does testosterone play a role in many physiological processes, but it can also impact your cognitive function and your mood. Men with low-T have a higher risk for depression, trouble concentrating, and irritability.
Sleep disturbances. Though low-T sometimes causes extreme fatigue, it may also lead to insomnia or other sleep disturbances.
My personal symptoms: I personally was working out like a mad man and eating right, and it was difficult for me to make gains (lose fat and gain muscle) despite making everything correctly...
I would have girls at clubs giving me opportunities to game them and pull them and i had no interest what so ever.
I could not hold my pee at times.
When i was having sex i could no focus on the girl and my mind started wondering all over the place.
0 drive and ambition when it came to biz, promotions etc...
my dick would not get hard and i had to get "pills" such as viagra
I would get really angry fast from 0 to 100 anger (Guys that used to be in nextasf may remember i was super angry at times)
^ Again my goal was to never go to trt due to side effect (this is kj if you do it right minimal to no side effects), I did not want to inject myself for the rest of my life (i hate injections, but i will show an alternative),expenses (is actually not expensive at all, and you will make money out of it due to the benefits), and i did not want a lifetime commitment (this is kj ridiculous excuse, don't you want TO FEEL AMAZING FOR EVER), finally i did not want to put my life on the hands on some doctor (again kj)
^ Due to all of the above objections i wanted to go natural so i started trying natural remedies such as vitamin d, zinc, aswaghanda, other herbs etc... mainly recommended by pe and other seducers...
and guess what they work for couple of weeks then my body would get used to them and back to 0, spent a bunch of money on that shit....
Finally i had enough and did a test and my total t in the 1100 which is high, but my free t (which is the important one) in the toilet about 9 from 0-30.... due to my shbg holding free t.... So i tried naturally to lower shbg it worked for couple of weeks and then:
After reading every article, reading every book and watching every video, i decide not to do trt and instead...i found proviron, (which is a mild steroid,known for getting you horny and for being oral which i found perfect, while minimal side effects and no liver damage)
Proviron worked well but after a year or so, i notice one of my knees was hurting i assume due to my lack of estrogen.... Did a blood test and my estrogen kind of low, estrogen is a female hormone but needed in men.
then i decided to go full blown with testosterone..... I decided to go for the testosterone Cream scrotal application for many reasons (note cream is NOT GEL, THE GEL IS EXPENSIVE AND WILL BURN YOUR BALLS):
-convenience, not injecting.
- higher sex drive due to spike in dht
- it increases free t the highest...(the important t)
just like the seduction community many schools of seduction, there are many fights and trt school of hormone optimization.... The school i found the best was the school of thought of NOT BLOCKING ESTROGEN.
^ So joined a facebook group of the best in trt, did my blood test, got my prescription, told the doctor what I WANTED TO DO, most doctors are clueless(and the ones of the estrogen blocking school too expensive)
then after..... TOTALLY REGRETTED IT, i looked like a total sack of potato from the bloating, see what happens at the beginning is that your body has new hormones and need to adjust so i experience:
-bloating(sack of potato look)
-emotional (told a fb that i loved her and confessed my love)
-anger (would snap)
What happens is you need to give it time for the body to adjust to the hormones, so i went to the forum of my school of trt, and i yelled at everybody and told them to fuck off, i felt mislead...
They told me to chill and to give it time for the body to adjust and not to do anything but to give it time and be patient....
I listen to the advise and then, a day after that post (3 weeks after being on trt):
-my body looks amazing
-my skin looks amazing
-sex drive is EXTREMELY CRAZY ANNOYING, hard on and tingling, i fuck my girl 3 times a day plus then masturbate twice.
- extreme energy and focus
- ambition.
-being on testosterone once optimized/dialed in is like you becoming limitless like the movie but just horny 24/7
If you want to do it this is the 2 delivery systems i recommend: either daily injection or the scrotal cream application (i personally like the cream better)
SOME IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT TESTOSTERONE:
-Give it some time to work, and only use TESTOSTERONE
-less is more, the less you can use for symptom resolution the better and the less side effect. Remember men only produce like about 7mg of testosterone a day.
-WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT BLOCK ESTROGEN PLEASE. Crashing your estrogen like bb do will result in bond loss, loss of libido etc... leave it alone.
- Do not manipulate shbg leave it alone too.... (i did this for a year so i am not kj)
- A good test of you being "optimized" and/or dialed in, and/or problems is MORNING WOOD....
- don't start throwing or mixing a bunch of compounds keep it TESTOSTERONE ONLY... Of course keep taking vitamin c, vitamin e, zinc, and magnesium.
WHAT TRT IS NOT:
- a magic pill that we get you and awesome body, if you do not work out and eat right and are fat you just will look like a fat ass on trt.
- an excuse for a younger guy that has not business being on trt use this to look like a dude on instagram
additional resources:
The best 2 delivery systems:
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