The Start of My Journey

[Lex]

Im 19 years old and i want to control of my life

Description of myself
im 19 years old, im black , i have a imposing physique i got big arm 16/17 inch broad should my belly and my waist could be slimmer i wear 36x32 jeans and rarely 34x32 i wear M shirt and t shirt and Large jacket and coat. im 6 foot .I speak french in my everyday life but if i approach a girl and she speak in english ill be able to make conversation but it wont be as smooth.My ear on pierce. Rencently ive ask a female friends of mine what she tought about me and she say that i have a badboy attitude (dont know if she say in a good or bad way but i prefer to be think of as a badboy than a nice guy ). I never had problems with girl they always told me that i was funny but like chase said it Reaction dont equal result. Im not the most attractive guy in the world but i often see girl checking me out on a scale of 1 to 10 i would say that im a 7/8.

My way of approaching

im prefer day game in mall , im not a high energy guy im a laid back guy. ill try to go to lounge during summers so if u know any place in montreal just tell. Ive probably done 35 approach with my friend but it was nothing serious we did like 3 approach each in 2 hours but rencently i gotten serious about daygame. Saturday i have approach 10 girl in 2h got 1 number. Sunday did 6 approach in 1 hour got no number and today did 1 approach in 20 minutes didnt had many oppurtunity at the mall. my goal is to approach as many girl as possible. Ill try to make at least a approach a day to beat approach anxiety and to sharpen my skill. to this day my sticking point is to continue conversation even if the girl doesnt have a big reaction ( i go direct) cuz sometime girl just say thank you but stay in front of me and i know that its mean that they are actually interested a little bit in me and that a big step.ill write post regulary on what happend with each approach ill try to be the most precise. if anyone as something to say feel free to say

Lex

 

[Lex]

Phone number from saturday

Ok so saturday ive take the phone number from a cute girl. I most say that it wasnt the smoothest convo i ever got but well i think it is was good enough ut i think she was already attracted cuz we only talk for like a minute and maybe less. So i took the number it was 1PM i text her at 8 PM .Ill write the whole conversation.

Me:Happy to run into you today -Lex
Her:2hours later : me too you chill ahha
Me: i got the most amazing hamburger with my friend it was incredible/hey (Lisa fictif name), got me thinking we should go grab a bit ? how this week is looking for you?
Her: you is not 19 stop playing you talk to proper haha ( im like da fuck!?!)
Me: hahah i did private school? howold u think i am
her:21 ahah
Me: -.- if i was 21 hitting on 17 old girl it be gross/but i know that i look older/ but i swear im not 21 im 19 ( i said this at 10 Pm)
THE NEXT DAY
Her Hmmm okok haha ( she respond at 1 Am)
Me still dont believe me ? ( i work during night at a hospital )
Her:no no i do
Me :why arent u sleeping ?
her: got home not to long ago u ?
me : im a nursing student so i can work in a hospital
her : ohh okok thats nice
Me: so we chill ?
her: obviously we chill haha i dont care about age unless its like 25 or something aaha
me : perfect hope your weekend was good
Her same to U
THE NEXT DAY
ME : my god feel like biology class is never gonna end...how class for u ?
her : im in spanish class its chill ahaa
Me : in what school do u go ?
her : she answer u ?( wont say its school )
Me: am in cegep
Me 6hours later: oh god just finish my last of scholl danm that semester was long...
her( she answer 3 hours later) : danm finally done / sorry i was playing ball
Me : u play bball ?
her: yeah its my fav sport
Me : used to play in high school with football one dau ull show me what u got / its a great sport ive met my best friends in my high school bball team
her : oh nice thats cool
Me:with ho du u play ?
Her : with my friends everyone
me : are u good ?
Her : yeah we can say ahah
me : u either really humble or cocky ? wich one ?
her:im just proud of mysleft ahaha
me : ahaha have any other hobbies ( its was 11PM )
THE NEXT DAY
her: 7 AM : sorry i fell asleep i was so tired
me : 1PM No prob cutie i fall asleep few minutes later/how is ur day? ( i respond at 1PM )

She did not respond yet so tell me do u have any idea of what should i do next ? one final thing :when i took her phone number i wrote her name in my contact list but did a mistake and she correct it and put her phone number dont know if it mean something what are tough on that fellow ?

Lex

 

[Lex]

Day game at the mall

OK so today i was really tired i had final exam at 8 Am in the morning till 12 Am so i was not really in the mood for day game but i motivate myself so went the Eaton center that usually the mall i go for daygame so went there didnt see many oppurtunity found one girl waiting alone so went out got direct ( i told her i like her necklace) she didnt clearly understand me when i said cuz she told me she was italian and didnt speak well french she was glad and happy but she look way older that a tought so i eject

MY TOUGHT
Persistence : i need to persist cuz even if the conversation doesnt seem great if she is still standing she must be intrigued a little bit that my guess
I dont know if there is a lot of black daygamer or night gamer but one think that ive found is that being black is really polarizing in the worst case girl are scared because they think you want to steal her purse eventought is her purse is not in the hand that you tap on and in the best scenario they smile warmly and stay in front of you what are your tought on this ?
one thing that i have realize is that the more woman u approach the moer oppurtunity u have to get laid

My goal
i think i should do street game i have approach anxiety about it but A MAN HAS TO DO WHAT A MAN HAS TO DO

Lex

 

[Lex]

Another day game approach in a mall

today wasnt a great day i felt like shit . i was tired as fuc** i didnt sleep well that night and i wake myself earlier to study for my final exam but i motivated myself to go to the mall and do at least one approach so im there my back is hurting there is a few attractive girl but approach anxiety came quick and hard so i let pass a least 4 opportunities i follow a girl she walk really fast but shes attactive so i do my best to catch her but i failed so im there sitting on a bench dont know what to do i am ready to call it a day and go home but deep inside i know it's not the way to go if i want to take control of my dating life. So i decide to take a last walk in the mall and i spotted a cute arabe girl in a fashion dress so i walk to her tap her on the arm and say that i like her style she smile it look like a genuine smile but she say that she's very busy and that she have to join her family so i say its fine and i let her go. Eventhrough the approach suck really hard i was happy that i motivated myself to do an approach

MY TOUGHT
My voice on the approach was terrible it didnt reach it felt like I lost my voice
but i think that except for this my body language was good
i realise that if i say : i like your style and i had to tell u but dont introduce myself right after that there is a higher chance that they say thank u and just walk away
i think that i need to appear less badboy i need to find a way to be as masculine but more warm on the approach if anyone as suggestion reply please and dont say smile i know it already

Lex

 

[Lex]

My objectif and tought

I want to start street game ive seen the street and its look like a whole different game. It's faster and people can really hear you and something that ive noticed since ive do daygame is that people do look at you when you approach someone in the mall most daygamer say no but it is not true they do look at you and even sometime stay a little bit to hear what you say.

and for the girl i took the number i dont think it would go anywhere.Ill text her few time to see but i wont chase her its summer i prefer to approach a lot of girl and have sex with the one who respond well to my approach

is there any black guy who do daygame that could share is advice on what he does it would be really awesome?

Lex

 

[Lex]

Approach a the the mall­...again lol

Today i felt a little bit tired my finals exams are killing me... but when to the mall to force myself to approach...So i went there i dont know why but the more a feel tired the more approach anxiety that i feel. So im there sitting on a bench watching girl walking i propably left 3 opportunities pass away. So im like shit i need to go buy some t-shirt ( dont ask me why ? i dont know either ) So i go to Old navy take differents colors ( i always wear dark color ) so im there trying differents t-shirt and i go to the a girl working in the store

Me: i need a woman opinion on somthing and your are a girl
her: ahaha what can i help you with?( with a smile )
Me: i need to know if the t shirt im wearing fit me well
her: It fit you perfectly ( i did look muscular in that shirt )
Me: and the color ?
Her: it look good but i think the blue will be better on you ( i try it and its actually true )
Me: i hope you dont say that just because you want do a sell
Her : no i swear ( with a genuine smile)

So i thank her and leave so im walking around the mall and say a girl that seem cute with a fat asse!! ahaha
I take my courage go to her tap her on the arm and say i think that you are very cute and i had to talk to you my name is Lex she shake my hand and say thank you and have a nice day
eventrought i did get anywhere and she blow me away i was wasnt really affected by it.

My tought

the convo i had with the girl working in the old navy wasnt amazing but i realize that i dont need to be amazing during the day you just have to be better than ordinary. the convo was pretty short but honestly i didnt even think about what to say i just when there and talk and she respond warmly and its was probably because she was working and shes nice to everybody but i dont care it was a light/fun convo and it got me thinking that i dont have to stressed out and find something amazing to say i just have to be better than ordinary and for the girl with the fat ass i did my approach she was polite and say thank you stay for 1 second before saying she had to go. one thing that i realize is that i get my best conversation when i dont try to game the girl. when i just go there and talk girl respond warmly... I have to find a way to be able to reproduce this with girl i approach i was just reading post on girl chase and i found that i need to use banter on my approach it will feel more natural and more fun

Lex

 

[Lex]

srry didnt approach for 1 one day but i approach today

today went to the mall with a red t shirt (see if it is true that red is attractive)i approach 6 woman it was a great day i didnt get any number but all woman respond warmly i talk for a girl for like a minute i dont even remember what i said but it was fun she was smiling but when i ask for the number she said that she wasnt there for to long so...i say its ok and have a good day but something happen to my wingman he approach a girl she respond SUPER warmly and then she said she was gay ahahaha me and my friends laugh so hard when he told me that it make our day

My tought
girl respond more warmly than when i started few month ago i get really less blown out it does happe from time to time but these day they either stay to talk to me or they say thx you with a smile and say that they are married or engaged by showing me their ring. I think i lack sexual vibe or tension so how do u create that during day game in a mall full of people and in less than 1 minute i do make strong eye contact by locking my eyes with the girl but i dont feel the tension

Lex

 

[Lex]

today's best approach

i didn't did approach for 2 days because i had t my final exam but they are finish so i can concentrate in daygame so today i went with my wing to do some approach we did 10 approach each i wont write about all of them but ill talk about the best interaction i had. So we are walking and i see a gorgeous girl with a fat ass =) (that my type) it goes like that ( ill use a fake name)

Me: i just saw you going out from the ardene and i tought you were cute and i had to come talk to you my name is Lex( we shake hand )
Her: ( she blushed and smile ) thx you my name is jasmine
Me:so tell me what are you doing today?
her : i want to buy a hat but i dont know where is the Lids
Me : i know where it is come with me ( she follow me ( is it compliance?)
As we are walking
me : how old are you ?
her : im 19
Me: oh you looked more mature ( i think it was a mistake to say that )
her: ahah dont know
me : i say that as a compliment with a smile/ are you a student ?
her : yes actually i study in architecture in ottawa( we are in a mall in montreal )
me : i hate math im really bad at it. the few math i have in my nursing cause me so much trouble ahah ( that probably the biggest mistake i ever made )
her : aha i love math and im good aha
me: what nationality are you ?
her : im kinda a melting pot of differents race i have french italian and blablabla in my family ( srry dont remember everyone she said )
me : well it does a beautiful mix ( is say that with a smile )
her: aha ( with kinda a awkward smile )
Me : what you like to do for fun ?
her : i dont know i like to do snowboard during winther ahha
Me: arent you cold ? ( she was wearing a tank top but is was raining as fu** outside )
her : ahaha i just got out from my workout
Me : thats good you look fit
her: ahaha
we arrived few meters from Lids a didnt feel taking her phone number cuz she lived far away
Me: Just turn left and youll arrived
her:Thx you its as nice meeting you ( with a smile )

What are your tought about this interaction ?

 

[Mr. oblivious]

Something i noticed from reading your first submission is that you give out information too easily and you should try give out as little as possible only giving out information to build connections. (just give a brief answer then change the focus back to her)

 

[Lex]

Giving too much information

Mr. Oblivious as an other black guy im pretty interested in how is goes for you ? do you prefer day game or night game and what work best for you ?

and about giving too much information what should i say ? to present myself as mysterious ?

Lex

 

[Lex]

Girl at my work

So today i had to work so i wasnt able to do daygame but at work i talk we a cute girl that i had already talk few months ago it goes like that
Me: so what new since last time
her: not much ahah school and work dont any life since im in college
Me: when do u finish ?
Her : thursday got a few more exam in differents class
Me: lets talk about something else school is boring (say with a smile ) are u still in couple ?
her: no we broke up 2 month ago
me : why?
her : he wasnt sure he wanted to be in couple blablabla
we talked about relationship / standard/ how to manage relationship/ sex how she was in relationship/past relationship for about 30 min during the conversation i didnt talk once about me. i try to use pause during the conversation a few time and i have only one thing to say....GOLDEN i stop talking for a few second during while keeping eye contact with her and i could feel the tension between us maybe im crazy but that was my impression.During all the conversation she say many time that i was mean but ye she was still laughing and keeping eye contact .at one point during the convo her coworkers came but she still continue to talk to me everytime a customer came even if the two of them were good friends she was still looking me in the eyes while talking to him.while her cowokers wer there they came into the conversation we talk a little but and made fun about the cute girl nothing mean at one point i could feel that she was feeling a little bit alone against all of us when she said that she had many criteria so i said
Me: eventrought im laughing at you i dont jugde cuz i agree with you we need to have many criteria for who we choose to love or we might end up with anyone
her: thx you, my lunch break is in now
Me:mine is finishing in 3 minutes walk we to the elevator
her : okay!!
the elevator is there
Me : if i dont see you until the end of the night have a good night
Her:do you work tomorrow ?
Me: i dont know if they call me ill work. when do you finish ?
her : 21h15 you ?
Me : midnight so well see each other

At my others break at 21H i go to the tim hortons i sit down eat a few fruits i see that she is wiht some of her friends. Her friends leave her to go work she pass in front of me i looked her in the eye and say come sit with me she say okay let me get my purse.
we didnt talk that much we talk a little bit but we had many pause were we just look into the eye of the others.At one point during the conversation we talked about crack fingers shwe say she hate it i ask her to give me her hand and she say no because she thought i would crack her fingers and hurt her. I dont insist but maintain eye contact her friends arrived and she leaved cuz she has to giver her a lift she say good bye and i say good bye

what do you think about the whole conversation and how it went ?

To all the pimp out there

Lex

 

[Mr. oblivious]

Re: Giving too much information

Mr. Oblivious as an other black guy im pretty interested in how is goes for you ? do you prefer day game or night game and what work best for you ?

and about giving too much information what should i say ? to present myself as mysterious ?

Lex

Me :why arent u sleeping ?
her: got home not to long ago u ?
me : im a nursing student so i can work in a hospital
her : ohh okok thats nice

Not sure if this is the bit i read last night but as you can see she just asked you why you are still awake which you revealed your a nursing student and you work in a hospital and kinda left the led the conversation to an end.

I reckon something like this
Me: why arent u sleeping?
her :got home not to long ago u?
Me: you party animal just working (this way she would respond to your comment give you more to work with and you still have the mysterious feel cause she like wtf working this late at night what is he doing?)

just realized this is texting game which is one of my weakest areas but i was tired when reading last night so i didn't pay much attention

as an other black guy im pretty interested in how is goes for you ? do you prefer day game or night game and what work best for you ?

Iv haven't got serious yet cause im waiting until exams etc. are over and for my birthday which ill be legal and can go out to bars etc.

But where im from most the time everyone hangs out in night game.

I don't mind night game (more likely to get an LR if your logistics are right) but as a black guy you really need to make your open located appropriately usually in lighted area. And generally with night game when everyone is drinking etc. the girls which just crave black men are way more expressive so it makes it easier in a way and people seem more open as well.

I haven't really done much intentional day game but i find i can set things up in day game if im going out later (like if you have a day drinking session preparing) also since i am set up fundamentally good i find once i smile at the beginning of my interactions in day game the girls become much warmer as most other black guys where im don't seem to present themselves well (baggy clothing etc.)

Anyways some tips from me would be to get over the mentality that other raced girls don't find you attractive cause i went through a phase where i thought that but after becoming more confident the girls seem to have noticed it and seem warmer on approach (probably a bunch of factors)

On approach generally use a smile to disarm people as well

im planning on getting serious real soon so ill probably try compete with ya

 

[Lex]

Re:Giving too much information

ahahaahah glad to hear from an other black player

when you started day game tell me how it goes for you we could share tip from our experiences and for the smile it is true they do respond warmly when you smile

and for the giving too much info it all make sense now thx you very much

Lex

 

[Lex]

Vibe off

today went to an other mall to see if i would feel nervous and...GOD yes i did feel anxiety but i still manage to do one approach. i went blank on what to say so i eject but she was receptive and respond warmly she was white ahaha. the good point about this mall is that the majority if the girl speak french which is the language at the most comfortable with and i learn ONE MAJOR thing... SMILE and A PAUSE with a direct opener is a Killer Combination it make the girl melt in front of you. There is one question: after i did my approach the girl stop and smile/blushed then i ask the girl what she was doing today she say that she was going to work in 10 minute but that she was going outside I said lets walk together she say yeah ok ? Was it a good move or Not?

To all player outside
Lex

 

[Lex]

Keep Improving

When out today its was cold tried a differents mall to see what there i try a differents hour to and the mall was empty me and my wing did 4 approach nothing amazing or woth writing a FR but one thing that i realize is that your vibe is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING in seduction and one way to get into a good vibe is to drink a Red Bull or Monster and listen to real good music. On the positive side one thing that i think i have improve is my opening rate with direct opener . I have a opening percentage of 75% with direct opener most girl stay and talk to me but some in the first second say i have a boyfriends sorry... so i just let them go. My sticking point to this day is the hook point i have a difficult time reaching the hook point where the girl is actively working to make the conversation go...if anyone as any suggestion please help me

To all player outside
Lex

 

[Lex]

Indirect opener i gues...

So after i ate sushi with a female friend of mine i was heading home when I saw a girl that i think tought i knew from elementary school so i hesitate for 3 second then i just say to myself fuck it just do it so i tap her on the soulder then i said : excuse this gonna sound random but i got this weird feeling that i know you or maybe im just crazy ? she said : with a humongous smile i think that you are crazy we laugh a little bit but didnt know how to continue the conversation and the face of the girl wasnt great...but she had a fine ass so i eject and took my bus the go home.

 

[Lex]

Rain

So it has been 5 days since i did an approach because it was raining as fuck outside so today i went out eventought it was still raining i went out with my wing and wasnt a great day we did 8 approach each nothing worth writing a FR i got blown out hard 1 time it didnt faze me much.The more appraoach you do the less you care about the outcome...Im a little bit dissapoint with my result i would like to have more numbers close... I only had 1 since a started. When i approach some time girl will say thx you with a smile and will started to walked just a little bit until i presented myself and say my name while shaking their hand but when they do that they are not in front of me they are on the side (if i could say) do i still continue the conversation or just continue my way and find another girl. On the good side from the start of my journey ive always been afraid to approach a girl on her phone but today i approached 2 girl on their phone one of them was the girl that rejected me hard so now i know that girl are not more difficult to approach because they are on their phone is just a limiting belief.What do you do when the girl is still there smile but she is boring as fuck and dont contribute to the conversation ?

Question ?
on an average of 10 woman how many of them are receptive?
on an average of 10 woman how many number do you get?
How long do your conversation last ? because i think mine are really to short

To all player outside
Lex

 

[Lex]

Fundamentals are improving i guess ? what do you think?

Since the beginning of my journey ive tried a lot to improve my look and i think that it work to the point that i had a female friend of mine who said that she was glad to walk around downtown with me because now her friend think that she is balling( her friend saw us walking together they dont know that we are just friend)!! and i dont know if this is because im getting my fundamental handle or just because they want to be nice but many time ive had girl who i didnt know start talking for example i work in a hospital and two time this week nurses that i didnt know tried to crack joke with me for example one day i was sitting on a chair(there was nothing to do this day) and i cute looking girl who i guess was doing an internship came to me and said in a playful tone : you are keeping a eye on the equippement ? the other example i was just about to leave and so i took my bag when an nurse said something to me with a huge smile ( i dont remember what she said ) their is others example i just dont remember them.

to this day i think i have most of my fundamental handle

-My posture is straight
-Got a good hairstyle that got me many compliments
-My sense of fashion is not completed but on his way to get mastered
-My voice naturally i have man voice one day i did a lecture in school and people could gave us compliements and one girl said that i had a warm voice ahaha!!
- Facial hair eventought im black i dont have goatee im pretty close to have a stubble i always get my facial hair trimmed cuz otherwise it look messy and girl react cold to me
-The two remaining fundamental that is left for me to master is conversation and fat loss eventought girl say tht i look muscular and buff i feel that i need to loose way until i can see my abs

that left me with one question

How to you get past small talk during a direct gay game approach ?

To all player outside

Lex

 

[Lex]

Girl from the past...what should i do?

Ok so few months ago a girl give me a handjob she wanted to have sex but i couldnt long story...she is engaged to a guy and cheated on him with me...after that she want cold on me and i understand why (auto-rejection is my guess) so we stopped talking to each others for 3 month i texted her a few time so we could meet but she didnt want to be alone with cuz she told me that she is not the same girl who gave me an handjob and that now she faithful didnt want to talk her anymore so we stopped talk to each sometime she would send me a How are u? but for 2 motnh we didnt talk but now out of the blue she texted me it goes like that

Her: Friday ill be at this bar and you are welcome to join me
Me: who will be there
Her: Many people
Me: friend? family?
Me:is there a special occasion?
Her: friend
Her:there will be DJ something!!! ( i dont know who the fuck is this guy?)
Me: ahaha idk who is he is but ill try to come ive never been to a club so it could be funill text you back
Her: ok the entry 20$
Me:everything ok?
her: yeah you?
Me; ive seen you warmer
Her; im find im so exhausted.im going to sleep my eye are burning
Me: its good we will have time to catch up friday
her:Yes but im really good and dont know what warmer mean? ahaha( the real convo is in french but i said warmer in english)
Me i give the definition in french)
her: no im like usual
Me: need to go to sleep good night will see friday

So do you think i should go or it is a waste of time ?

Lex

 

[Smith]

Question ?
on an average of 10 woman how many of them are receptive?
on an average of 10 woman how many number do you get?
How long do your conversation last ? because i think mine are really to short

For some reason, most of the women I meet these days are a lot more receptive and warm to me than when I started out a few months ago lol. so I guess something has changed.
Sometimes 0/10 numbers, but really u should focusing on building a connection, the number is just a logistic tool for the next date

How to you get past small talk during a direct gay game approach ?

https://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-art-deep-dive