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2022 was promising, wayyyyyy better than the pathetic corona dominated 2020 and the meh 2021, 2022 was actually promising for a change, Though the consistancy of women comming out was not as good as pre-corona, they were out more than 2021 and of course dah more than 2020 which was plage by corona..... I was also amazed how at my age i still got it (and my skillset due to current trends have actually improve my game, more on that later on this review) I think i am the only one of the true naturals left in my area...And one of the only OG still clubbing i should be in the guiness book or something... But anyways here we have the good, the bad and the ugly, again..... As you all know i am still out there on the field every weekend so i can report to you niggas....


Some of the good:

- The fashion trends are really nice FOR WOMEN, more fit people in general.... The sneakers are trending for both sexes. When it comes to men it went autistic, some changes in men are for the worst.... Stupid shorts like the 80s, showing socks.... Skinny jeans were traded to Baggy ass pants and oversized shirts (i do not recommend this, but i am just reporting),also socks over the joggers visible(in man looks like shit, in women nice) following that the fucking tattoos trend is going to far all the way to neck and face, and women overdoing the tats, just a turn off to me.... Finally hair styles there are some that i like that are back like the lama haircuts, some that are shit like the mollet.... (but they are back)... I am praying to the fashion gods, every day for the baggy crap no to come back... Though in women baggy is nice cause is tight at the top baggy on the legs, like bell bottoms (so on women we are good even baggy thanks the lord)....

- Following the above the women styles continue to be awesome the more nakedness' the better, with the booty shorts, the short dresses' and mini skirts, see through stuff etc... pretty much is acceptable to women to be practically naked out.....Sometimes i am dancing with women the tits pops out of the shirt, i personally have to fix the shirt, is crazy...Of course the ass chicks out on the shorts, pretty cool the mini skirst are almost right at the ass point, super high...

- the fitness trend continues specially in USA were most women since young age, getting in shape and actually lifting, tons of breast and booties surgeries, and the technology as i said improving so it looks real and well done in the majority were you could not even tell.... I banged a blonde that had fake books (i hate fake boobs, but i had no idea they were fake till i did some type of weird complement in which i was trying to say how nice the boobs were they had to cost a lot in plastic surgery, fuck my life, i was expecting to say "no they are actually real" but they were fake as she confessed....This has not changed from 2021 and again the plastic surgery advancement getting better and better....

- On the financial side, usa is slowing down, interest rates are up, car, house and rent prices are wayyyyy higher than wages, but still the slow down and the rescession, has not hit as bad as 2007 thanks the lord... It has not personally affected me yet, thanks god!... And i don't see as having access in my profession to hundreds of financial lives, not getting hit as bad, the main problem cont. to be inflation...

- Seducers with game cont. to be a dying breed, seducers are dropping out like flies, or either taking breaks to focus on finances, or get into retarded fights and quit the community, or just get a gf.... Seducers are a dying breed just like naturals....

- Women cont. to come out way more in holidays, specially Halloween, has been one of the better holidays...

- Physical game and even to some extend dance floor game are kind of back, More physicality, more people making out at clubs, even slightly more pulls than previous years... Physical game is back, last year 2021 coming back, now is almost 100% back, same with dance floor game it seems coming back.... (you even can see seducers that are mental masturbators doing dance floor game)


Some of the bad:

- The pua industry is officially almost rip.... Is now like game of thrones, the main issue no only the people fighting among each other, the posturers this year from the pua industry were fighting with the same posturers... So let me explain this better, the inner circle of the people that posture constantly (posturing means the retarded believe that what you do to get laid is better than what other people do to get laid, but in order to bring evidence to your fantasies you need to bring the other people that get laid down indirectly) in the forums and in popular youtube, went into fights among themselves, the funniest one was jmlv....

- Following the above the red pill has WON, since the almost dead and buried seduction community keep fighting and undermining each other... The red pill full of kjs has now taking over and somewhat gone mainstream, dudes like Tate are more popular than ever... In my thanksgiving dinner with my family I was surprised my mom asked me to watch a fresh and fit video giving to her by my little brother.... (obviously my family does not know i am skills).... This got me totally depress.... My little brother of course no getting laid, making a bunch of money, with a million dollar house, and making 50 times more money than i do.... Again you guys keep following the red pill crap and that tate crap... good luck with that...

- I am not going to even edit this from previous post last year, is actually getting worst....-Following the above since the sexual market place is total shit, most guys are not getting the same level of reference experiences with women, sexual experience, real live women understanding and relationships that we got to enjoy in a bit more favorable market place. This works in our favor since the guys good with women had 1000s of successful reference field experience, relationship, women dynamics etc... this translate in the seduction which is not fair at all to other dudes that even if they try won't be able to compete. This apply to most in the seduction community as well...

-Cold approach in general is a DYING BREED. Even in forums a lot of the lrs, were some indirect form of social circle,apps, some major holidays, or luck... Very few lays from actual proper a to z seduction. (i personally would never write, i don't even share off the forums lrs were there is nothing to teach, but this is me)

- The player is in life support status(change from almost dying to life support, this has gotten worst)... I see the "naturals" that were really good couple of years back, not even coming out, locking in women, or just disappearing... This year actually they totally disappeared...

- The time machine seducers from 2021, came back for 2 seconds, None of them could make it, NONE OF THEM, all the posts, guides and insights they promised (as i predicted, never were written)... Again no shame in this... I eventually going to explain what they need to do so this does not happen to good seducers when they get older... Though is not practical for most, which is to do what i actually do i still minimally game just to no lose my skillset and no to kj... then when some troll or posturer bothers me, sometimes i be like, k let me see if my shit works, then i go get laid, and go "see".

- following the above we have a lot of pua teachers that smartly got the fuck out of usa/England to a more favorable sexual market places such as Colombia, Brazil, Eastern Europe, Thailand, Mexico.... good for them, but a lot of the stuff they teach will be hard to relate to usa.. This alarming trend cont. worst they are though no exchange sex for money, indirectly very close to this... (is like a latin america dan balzirian flah game)

- When it comes to cold approach the biggest loser has been day game, the bigger winner has been apps and online, even the game purist don't go into long arguments about online/apps anymore they bite the tongue... Night game has also as i previously stated making a small comeback, no yet to old school levels, but night game is doable again vs the inconsistency of women coming out of 2020 and 2021.... Good news for day gamers is though nobody is doing it, if you do it, is an advantage since again nobody doing it anymore...

- The fucking horrible tattoo ink trend on women is getting worst, horrible disgusting shit in USA, actually hot women looking like shit with tattoos

- In this market place the mating market is becoming crazy, you need to have fundamentals, know how to do a to z aspects of seduction, from opening to close almost flawlessly which is again a problem with guys that even though they are trying, learning, grinding, they are not getting those many dick in pussy experiences over than over that help developing into an actual gamer... This mating process was not like this back in the days even if you approach you could have a shot of success with women just by the natural mating process (i know this sounds like mental masturbation but I knew a lot of guys that did not know what they were doing with girlfriends now a days, good luck with this)....

- The obesity epidemic specially in USA is becoming beyond horrible (i am not talking about thick women, with fat tits and asses, which i luv, i am talking fat, as in fat roles), not only the sexual market place is shrinking we got obesity, tattoos etc... to deal with.... No changed but again the women this year coming out more...

- A lot of gurus are actually paying for sex in different ways which is pathetic either rent for pussy, or salt daddy or some other pussy for money transaction or q pro quo transaction for me this is pathetic... Again this trend cont. and is even more acceptable...

- Me too, social justice warriors, fra etc... Thanks god has slow down and even now backfired... I believe the Johnny depth and amber heard saga totally help with this A LOT.... But this is my own mental masturbation theory...

- Clubs and night venues back... Again guys night game is somewhat back vs 2021 dominated by bottle service/vip etc... but again that is my take...

- competition cont. to be none existent for seducers, is actually easier for us to compete.

- I think women just like app fatigue are getting a bit of social media fatigue.... I notice women posting way less in social media vs 2021, but may be in my corner...


Here are some solutions (remind the same though i would increase or try a bit apps and night game in your inventory):

- Keep grinding is my solution number 1 you can still get laid and a lot, but you need to be consistent, find a day or 2 preferably no less than 2 to CONSTANTLY SARGE, the excuse of work, running biz etc... is just excuses i am sure you can find some type to consistent sarge i have done and cont. doing it for more than 20 years... (again getting rid of drugs and alcohol help with this)

- Cross game and when you cross game, cross game on the cross game (sounds like a rap).- You need preferably to combine all games, an ideal situation in my opinion is going about your day day game, online/apps when you are in the toilet or waiting in line, night game once or twice a week. But lets say you day game you need to constantly go to different malls or parks or ____ fill in the blank to see how target rich they are... On online/apps at least 4 apps, online is not tinder for fuck sake, tinder is actually in my opinion the worst. IN night game as i have been saying minimum, specially now 3 venues, close to each other walking distance, go out different nights to see the best night aka women actually coming out in your city.

- If you don't have a follow up method (for me texting) good luck getting laid all the time with ons, ons are becoming harder and harder, dtf not coming out as much as back in the days.... Slight improvement this year from 2021

- move out of usa to a more fucking normal sexual market place. (i personally don't think this is necessary vs last year, again improvement in night game, guys getting more lame in the west)

- move from a major city for example Miami, to a more favorable sexual market place for example WEst palm (hotter women than Miami and Broward, less competition). In other words move from a major city Miami, to a second or 3 type city (palm beach in my case 3rd type city in south Florida)... This may have also draw backs cause less quantity but more quality, but less male competition. ( I am not competin with professional sports players for example).

- Lock in a girl/girls even if an ok girl vs personal 10 keep her or help her with fixer upper game. While you improve and hunt (i already explain how to do both in different articles, so you monkey branch, reverse hypergamy). This is hard to do though without the experience.

- improve logistic live walking distance from clubs/day game etc...or get a ban like jeffy shit

- This is a GEM I DISCOVERED.- For some reason Latin type clubs have not been affected as much by the trends. IN Latin clubs (i don't really like them but) it seems they are stuck in 2010, lol, in other words women are out there, you can find dtfs, etc... it seems latin only clubs, have not change and gotten better cause of the popularity or reggatton which promotes sexual escalation and lack of courtship the 2 problems i always had with latin clubs... This is something i will explore more since that was never my target club, but i seen this. Edit from 2021.- again night game slowly coming back even non latin)

- I can't believe i am going to advice this but, clubs that allow under 21 with wrist bands, again in those clubs stuck in 2010, i assume cause since they are letting under 21 in you have decent ratios.

- PRE-DOING ONLINE, this is something that one of the best guys in this forum doing online taught me(this is verifiable by me).... please do this if not you will be wasting your time.... Go to Photofeeler, AGAIN GO TO PHOTOFEELER... put the settting for the women of your target audience only lets say 18-34, can only vote, we don't give a shit about dudes voting... Unless you get 8 or above on your pics, YOU WILL NOT UPLOAD ON TINDER ETC... This is the way around shadow banned.... If you already have a tinder, do this and get a new cheap phone or account, so you don't get shadow banned.... What is shadow banned when the syster thinks you are a 5 and just show you 5s and below women or no women or matches.... Again apps is not tinder, minimum 4, tinder, hinge, bumble, and pic another one such as fetlife, coffee met bagels, okkupid/pof (if you are older gen z)...

- Fundamentals have to be on point all the time is saddens me that in clubs i dress better and even in the seduction community of dudes less than half my age... And also it saddens me that guys don't update to current styles of clothing... How pathetic it is that even most seducers, don't fucking know how to dress, jesus christ!

- Avoid social media and social media type seduction.

Anyways guys you can share or disagree or whatever, i am always open to discussion...
 
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I wonder if a bounce is coming… social justice, me too, equality and sexual positive movements are getting old.
Maybe we will live through a re-appreciation of the male-female roles and dynamics.
yeah...... the noise was way down this year, and again the Amber vs Johnny, as per the post i think it totally hurt, those type of movements....
 

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- Seducers with game cont. to be a dying breed, seducers are dropping out like flies, or either taking breaks to focus on finances, or get into retarded fights and quit the community, or just get a gf.... Seducers are a dying breed just like naturals....

-Cold approach in general is a DYING BREED. Even in forums a lot of the lrs, were some indirect form of social circle,apps, some major holidays, or luck... Very few lays from actual proper a to z seduction. (i personally would never write, i don't even share off the forums lrs were there is nothing to teach, but this is me)

- The player is in life support status(change from almost dying to life support this has gotten worst)... I see the "naturals" that were really good couple of years back, not even coming out, locking in women, or just disappearing... This year actually they totally disappeared...

- When it comes to cold approach the biggest loser has been day game, the bigger winner has been apps and online, even the game purist don't go into long arguments about online/apps anymore they bite the tongue... Night game has also as i previously stated making a small comeback, no yet to old school levels, but night game i doable again vs the inconsistancy of women comming out of 2020 and 2021.... Good news for day gamers is though nobody is doing it, if you do it, is an advantage since again nobody doing it anymore...

- competition cont. to be none existent for seducers, is actually easier for us to compete.

- Keep grinding is my solution number 1 you can still get laid and lot, but you need to be consistent, find a day or 2 preferably no less than 2 to CONSTANTLY SARGE, the excuse of work, running biz etc... is just excuses i am sure you can find some type to consistant sarge i have done and cont. doing it for more than 20 years... (again getting rid of drugs and alcohol help with this)

- Avoid social media and social media type seduction.
Thanks for the in-depth update brother

I seriously don't understand what is happening out there for the community to literally be disappearing, it honestly started like late 2017 - 2018, the last super active forum I used to frequent just emptied out and then shutdown. Really ticked me off, there were some legends on there who were super nice and gave the best advice and tips. This is like the last decent /active forum still running. Even sarging groups/meetups vanished.

That being said, with your report, yes I have noticed that online is just dominating and its annoying to me tbh. I straight up don't like social media type game or tinder or w/e its just lame, though I understand it works, and some guys get killer results, not my thing tho lmao.

Now the main thing I'm into and that you've highlighted is cold approach and straight up in person interactions. First off in person is ultra powerful and puts you into the top 3% of men because most men don't got a pair to pull it off. Second off from what you're saying and another guy I follow was saying. We got a massive advantage because all these people going online can't socialize properly in person which gives us a massive advantage as "nobody is doing it anymore." In person will always be the most most powerful. Such an advantage. So I'm looking forward to crushing it.

Brother this is exciting news to me as I can just go have all the fun and practice I want. This art is too good and those that are still practising can be legendary in their own accord. Thanks for the discussion. Lets stay in touch. Talk soon
 

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Thanks for the in-depth update brother

I seriously don't understand what is happening out there for the community to literally be disappearing, it honestly started like late 2017 - 2018, the last super active forum I used to frequent just emptied out and then shutdown. Really ticked me off, there were some legends on there who were super nice and gave the best advice and tips. This is like the last decent /active forum still running. Even sarging groups/meetups vanished.

That being said, with your report, yes I have noticed that online is just dominating and its annoying to me tbh. I straight up don't like social media type game or tinder or w/e its just lame, though I understand it works, and some guys get killer results, not my thing tho lmao.

Now the main thing I'm into and that you've highlighted is cold approach and straight up in person interactions. First off in person is ultra powerful and puts you into the top 3% of men because most men don't got a pair to pull it off. Second off from what you're saying and another guy I follow was saying. We got a massive advantage because all these people going online can't socialize properly in person which gives us a massive advantage as "nobody is doing it anymore." In person will always be the most most powerful. Such an advantage. So I'm looking forward to crushing it.

Brother this is exciting news to me as I can just go have all the fun and practice I want. This art is too good and those that are still practising can be legendary in their own accord. Thanks for the discussion. Lets stay in touch. Talk soon
Are you sargemaximus from nextasf?
 

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Interesting take Skills. Similar observations to mine. Seduction communities and seducers are getting fewer. And i see this trend continuing. Part of this has to do with the rìse and spread of red & black pill.

Also, i think the reduction of dtf girls outside is probably cause a lot of them are online these days
 

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@Skills great post I respect how you're forever in the field...

You'll probably outlast me even though I'm young enough to be your son :ROFLMAO:

Anyway what's crazy is although our styles are different I've reached identical conclusions:

My 2cents on what I think are your most important sections:

Keep grinding is my solution number 1 you can still get laid and a lot, but you need to be consistent,

Yep for others lurking even when you know what you're doing dating market can still be a shit show. I've had a good 2022 but it took effort.

Never take rejections personally and focus on the right actions and the results will follow.

What I'll add is once you find a system that works as per 80/20 principle stick to those things for efficiency.

For example I tried a load of different apps then realized most my lays were coming from Tinder and Bumble. So I stuck to those x2 and got the same results for less effort.

Same thing with nightlife... I realized I got better results going to local bars then going into the heart of my city, so I went out locally more and again got better results for less effort.

Just have to be prepared to change/experiment again if things stop working.

Cross game and when you cross game, cross game on the cross game (sounds like a rap).- You need preferably to combine all games, an ideal situation in my opinion is going about your day day game, online/apps when you are in the toilet or waiting in line, night game once or twice a week. But lets say you day game you need to constantly go to different malls or parks or ____ fill in the blank to see how target rich they are... On online/apps at least 4 apps, online is not tinder for fuck sake, tinder is actually in my opinion the worst. IN night game as i have been saying minimum, specially now 3 venues, close to each other walking distance, go out different nights to see the best night aka women actually coming out in your city.

^^^ If a person reads only x1 paragraph of yours from the post it should be this.

One last thing I add that people overlook lol is social archetypes. Just like in sales you learn that there are not many different personas and when you learn to sell differently (I.E Calibration) to each different type your consistency shoots up which again reduces effort needed for results.
 

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@Skills great post I respect how you're forever in the field...

You'll probably outlast me even though I'm young enough to be your son :ROFLMAO:

Anyway what's crazy is although our styles are different I've reached identical conclusions:

My 2cents on what I think are your most important sections:



Yep for others lurking even when you know what you're doing dating market can still be a shit show. I've had a good 2022 but it took effort.

Never take rejections personally and focus on the right actions and the results will follow.

What I'll add is once you find a system that works as per 80/20 principle stick to those things for efficiency.

For example I tried a load of different apps then realized most my lays were coming from Tinder and Bumble. So I stuck to those x2 and got the same results for less effort.

Same thing with nightlife... I realized I got better results going to local bars then going into the heart of my city, so I went out locally more and again got better results for less effort.

Just have to be prepared to change/experiment again if things stop working.



^^^ If a person reads only x1 paragraph of yours from the post it should be this.

One last thing I add that people overlook lol is social archetypes. Just like in sales you learn that there are not many different personas and when you learn to sell differently (I.E Calibration) to each different type your consistency shoots up which again reduces effort needed for results.
tbh i am not big into archetypes and stuff like that, guys like you, the thin man, bachaus... big into that, i have game all the archetypes and i don't really find any difference tbh, i just calibrate to the girl and the info gathering and the situation accordingly...The only ones that give me issue is more of the hood type/ghetto girls but i don't like that type much anyways...
 

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tbh i am not big into archetypes and stuff like that, guys like you, the thin man, bachaus... big into that, i have game all the archetypes and i don't really find any difference tbh, i just calibrate to the girl and the info gathering and the situation accordingly...The only ones that give me issue is more of the hood type/ghetto girls but i don't like that type much anyways...
Same here...

I'm not really big on archetypes. Haven't really seen much difference. Calibrating to the girl seems to work just fine

But I'm open to learning more from @DoWhatWorks

Another reason I'm not sold on the archetypes thing is i haven't really seen it explained detailed and convincingly enough. Bacchus social and seduction archetypes is confusing to start with
 

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tbh i am not big into archetypes and stuff like that, guys like you, the thin man, bachaus... big into that, i have game all the archetypes and i don't really find any difference tbh, i just calibrate to the girl

I think "archetypes" are just a personal preference on how someone likes to process info.

Personally helped me increase my % but like all techniques it won't be for everyone....

I'm not really big on archetypes. Haven't really seen much difference. Calibrating to the girl seems to work just fine

Sounds like you're all fine then man. It's just one of the many techniques to help with calibration so if it's not helpful for you...Ignore it lol.

Another reason I'm not sold on the archetypes thing is i haven't really seen it explained detailed and convincingly enough. Bacchus social and seduction archetypes is confusing to start with

Fair enough! You aren't alone in the confusing bit, I struggle to understand Bacchus seduction archetypes... In his defense I think what makes (game in general) hard to explain is so much is subconsciously learnt/"felt" over time through practice.
 

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I was also amazed how at my age i still got it
Not sure how old you are but I'm 52 and can't get over how often I get IOI's and dates with women in their 20's to early 30's so I don't think you need to worry about opportunities drying up. Part of my increasing success is improving fundamentals and me being able to read signals better, even so there's always new opportunities arriving week by week.

I don't really do day game and I'm much more of an evolving social circle guy so can't comment too much on the other pick-up opportunities.

The fucking horrible tattoo ink trend on women is getting worst,
Much the same in UK. Girls often ask my opinion about what new tatoo's they should get and I'm always of the view they don't add to a girls beauty or attractiveness.

The obesity epidemic specially in USA is becoming beyond horrible (i am not talking about thick women, with fat tits and asses, which i luv, i am talking fat, as in fat roles),
Similar situation in the UK. I was on holiday in France a couple of weeks ago and it was very evident that women are nothing like as overweight. Yes there are women with fabulous curvy hips and boobs of gerneous proportion, which I love, but you rarely see a woman who is obese.

competition cont. to be none existent for seducers, is actually easier for us to compete.

Fundamentals have to be on point all the time is saddens me that in clubs i dress better and even in the seduction community of dudes less than half my age... And also it saddens me that guys don't update to current styles of clothing... How pathetic it is that even most seducers, don't fucking know how to dress, jesus christ!
Agree as so few men seem to understand how to dress never mind get beyond that


Just my 2 pennies worth from the UK.
 

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Are you sargemaximus from nextasf?
Hey bro, no I am not, I keep getting that lol. That name sounds familiar tho.

Nonetheless, nice to meet you bro
 

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Couple of things worth mentioning:
- women are dumber (hell, people in general are dumber). This is why it's best to simplify as much as you can, than to try to run some kind of upper eschelon seduction. Do the basics, but DO IT WELL (and with as fewer flaws as possible).
- the left has won. Period. Adjust acordingly. I absolutely despise woke culture, but I can nod my head in agreement and keep my mouth shut if it means getting some.
- I think fashion has become regional again, lots of variation between countries. In Brazil, I see the worst fashion trends in decades!!! Women's clothes look like they were designed to fit 70 year old ladies. The guys are not much better, fucking homo stuff everywhere. Plus beach wear (which was always a strong suit here) has become senseless. I cannot buy a decent speedo or beach shorts even if my life depended on it. I just stopped shopping local and went 100% online to buy my stuff.
 

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- women are dumber (hell, people in general are dumber).
I'd been wondering if it was just my imagination. I was literally about to post a thread about it. In retrospect, a lot of the girls I've met in the 18-21 bracket have little to no game, even some of the conventionally hot ones.
I think this is a really important trend. We Zoomers are the future and most of us are idiots.
On the plus side, it does mean decreased male competition and also better prospects for all you old dudes.
 

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I'd been wondering if it was just my imagination. I was literally about to post a thread about it. In retrospect, a lot of the girls I've met in the 18-21 bracket have little to no game, even some of the conventionally hot ones.
I think this is a really important trend. We Zoomers are the future and most of us are idiots.
On the plus side, it does mean decreased male competition and also better prospects for all you old dudes.
women are not dumber per se (i know what pob meant), is just the z generation is more digital more glue to phones, that makes the in person interactions seem more awkward and dumber... Is not good for seducers to treat women as "dumber" is anti seductive, does not help with the goal...

P.s. drop in a video on this post:

 
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

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women are not dumber per se (i know what pob meant), is just the z generation is more digital more glue to phones, that makes the in person interactions seem more awkward and dumber... Is not good for seducers to treat women as "dumber" is anti seductive, does not help with the goal...
Thx for clarifying, this is what I meant.
(dumb has a slightly different conotation in portuguese, does not translate good).
Also it seems people are afraid of books.
When I say I read roughly 25-30 books a year (which is nothing really) people stare at me like I'm Nicola Tesla demonstrating alternating current.
 

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We Zoomers are the future and most of us are idiots.
Now this is a concern.
Yes, there is a lot of young idiots going around.
But I also see a bunch of clever young people doing amazing shit!
What is lacking for the youth today is two things:
- proper guidance
- good role models (talking about men AND women)

Young women have no game because they are taught by youtube, IG, tik-tok influencers (and porn), not by mature women.
And most mature women despise them because of the unfair competiton they bring to get the best male prospects.

Difference from us is young women just need to be decently presentable to get laid.
They learn game on the way and will adjust accordingly to how hot they are perceived by the market.

Young guys with no game, on the other hand, are screwed for life if they don't seek help to change...
 
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