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For context I was predominately meeting girls through apps but have moved to daygame because:
-Online game is time consuming despite deceivingly appearing like it's not (swiping, back & forth messages, higher % of flakes etc.)
-I wanted higher quality girls and my dabbling of day game in the past has shown that this medium is more consistent for this
-My focus on 2020 will be more on biz, gym & career and daygame appears the easiest to integrate into my lifestyle as it doesn't leave you waking up at 1pm with a sorehead like nightgame nor is it as time consuming as online or so social circle
Without further ado the key differences I've noticed are:
1. Most girls are nice, mentally stable and have realistic standards
It's easy to get sucked into the online bubble where girls have bios like: "6ft plus only", "cute but psycho", "not a gold digger but having a car and your own place helps" to get demoralized on your dating options especially when a lot of these girls online are people who in person you would not take a 2nd look at. Due to the sheer volume of guys hitting them up girls standards go up and guys standards go down.
Now flip that to day game and suddenly girls who you would have a hard time even matching with have huge beaming eyes and genuine smiles with you approaching them. Even when it doesn't lead anywhere the biggest "rejection" I've had is a girl politely telling me that she's seeming someone but you can tell she's flattered we both mutually tell each other to enjoy the rest of the day ( and mean it!) then life goes on.
2. My time management and social skills improve
Two birds with one stone I don't believe in the old school block out 4 hours on a sunday evening to "Sarge" and "approach sets". I just have a key metric to say "Hi" to 2 girls a day when I'm out. Notice I don't say number I just focus on the activity that I have control over and let things to fall into place.
Going out 5 days a week at least for work/gym should in theory mean I'm meeting 10 girls a week and 40 girls a month. That's a load more than the average guy and best of all I have not spent a penny or used up times in my evenings or mornings outside of work that I'd rather dedicate to other priorities.
I still have moments where I'm a complete pussy and hesitate talking to girls however in those moments I do there's just an adrenaline rush that can't be replicated in the other mediums of meeting girls.
Daygame forces you to get out of your head and zone in on the girl. It's like being in the matrix/meditative state where you're viewing the interaction in 3rd person. I commonly have a rule where I will "insist" the conversation 2x before letting it go. E.g. "I always get the Katsu curry here... What do you get?" in a restaurant for example before saying then asking "You from around here" if she gives me a one word answer again then cool I let it go but I'll literally count in my head - I reckon this one will bite... 1, 2-
"I'm actually from ABC but recently moved here - what about you?"
Then there's body language? As I approach does she fully swivel round and hold my gaze, or does she not seem that into it? Alright let me test me it, I’ll playfully tease her then halfway turn as if I'm going to go then see if she pulls me back in.
It may even be that she's into it but in a rush... You going somewhere? No worries what's your number - let's get a drink sometime.
You’ll have all this sharp processing then re-assessing of the social interaction in your head, while externally just having a casual conversation. This can be 100% transferred to other areas like networking events and interviews
E.g. fuck the interviewers eyes are dazed I’m losing him as I’ve rambled and gone off topic to his question, let me throw in a joke here to lighten it up then give a concise 5 word answer
You simply cannot replicate this with online. Admittedly you can on the date but the preliminary work is where the social skills are refined.
I’ve seen it with friends of mine who get laid like champions from online but tell you with a straight face that they’re socially awkward and couldn’t really talk to a stranger girl.
IMHO daygame is “cooler” / “more manly" / “impressive” doesn’t matter which word you’d like to use and we all intuitively know it.
Besides being able to talk to a stranger, build attraction, set dates and eventually have a FB or future girlfriend just feels top fucking tier to me.
Perhaps it’s an arrogance or need to be different but also the fact that many guys can’t/won’t do it inspires me to do it even more.
3. My view of the world improves
With all this #Metoomovement and guys and girl relationships being more strained than ever. With daygame I'm able to create a reality where all this extreme toxicity simply isn't on my radar. Vast majority of my personal woman interactions are positive with the most "negative" one being a girl looking at me weirdly which ironically enough was one of the lesser attractive girls I approached. Even then I just assessed the situation, knew it wasn't on and bid her farewell in a positive and upbeat way.
The key to daygame is *SOCIAL CALIBRATION* and *APPEARANCE* That's it.
The truth is if you look presentable and respectfully hit on someone through a genuine compliment e.g. liking their: hair, choice of tattoo, clothes or accessories - hell even just asking a contextually relevant question like "are you going anywhere nice?" while stood at a bus stop. THEY'LL BE THE SOCIALLY AWKWARD ONE for not either
-respectfully declining your advances with the same energy you approached them with most commonly them not inputting the convo, headphones in or smiling but not engaging
or
-asking you back questions and making conversation
4. It's easier/more efficient to get laid in real life
This is the classic reactions vs results argument. Daygame has a higher emotional barrier to entry to talk to strangers and risk "social suicide" which is a myth in any settlement that has more people than farm animals.
Online however has a lower barrier to entry and *deceiving* quick results. For example you may get 50 matches over your first 3 days of signing up for Tinder (partly due to their new starter algorithm by the way) however 20 of those girls will live so far away the aren't worth pursuing, 15 of them won't reply to your message for numerous reasons ( not active, just want attention, didn't see it, already seeing someone etc.) which leaves 15 girls you'll talk to.
Out of the 15 maybe 10 will give you the number, 4 will "agree" to going on a date then 1-2 of them actually will. This is all in a time frame of 2-6 weeks.
Now with Daygame you'll approach 10 girls and maybe all of them go nowhere on the first week. This may look bad but this is good because it doesn't lie to you like Tinder. As it has such a high fall out rate you have a false sense of security that you have dates lined up but in reality you have texting buddies and future flakes.
With daygame in your next 10 girls you approach - 3 girls will reply to your text and although 2 may then flake the one who comes actually has a much higher chance to go somewhere than the tinder date. Furthermore because you mentally only have 1 "engaged person" you will continue to approach and not rest on your laurels.
This is in my experience at least *shrugs*
I think the more consistent daygame numbers becoming dates is because meeting someone in person is more novel and cute. The approach shows confidence which is attractive and she can show off to her friends too who are likely having mediocre online dates or in long term relationships cheering for her to have met "the one".
Be interesting to hear other people's thoughts
-DWW
-Online game is time consuming despite deceivingly appearing like it's not (swiping, back & forth messages, higher % of flakes etc.)
-I wanted higher quality girls and my dabbling of day game in the past has shown that this medium is more consistent for this
-My focus on 2020 will be more on biz, gym & career and daygame appears the easiest to integrate into my lifestyle as it doesn't leave you waking up at 1pm with a sorehead like nightgame nor is it as time consuming as online or so social circle
Without further ado the key differences I've noticed are:
1. Most girls are nice, mentally stable and have realistic standards
It's easy to get sucked into the online bubble where girls have bios like: "6ft plus only", "cute but psycho", "not a gold digger but having a car and your own place helps" to get demoralized on your dating options especially when a lot of these girls online are people who in person you would not take a 2nd look at. Due to the sheer volume of guys hitting them up girls standards go up and guys standards go down.
Now flip that to day game and suddenly girls who you would have a hard time even matching with have huge beaming eyes and genuine smiles with you approaching them. Even when it doesn't lead anywhere the biggest "rejection" I've had is a girl politely telling me that she's seeming someone but you can tell she's flattered we both mutually tell each other to enjoy the rest of the day ( and mean it!) then life goes on.
2. My time management and social skills improve
Two birds with one stone I don't believe in the old school block out 4 hours on a sunday evening to "Sarge" and "approach sets". I just have a key metric to say "Hi" to 2 girls a day when I'm out. Notice I don't say number I just focus on the activity that I have control over and let things to fall into place.
Going out 5 days a week at least for work/gym should in theory mean I'm meeting 10 girls a week and 40 girls a month. That's a load more than the average guy and best of all I have not spent a penny or used up times in my evenings or mornings outside of work that I'd rather dedicate to other priorities.
I still have moments where I'm a complete pussy and hesitate talking to girls however in those moments I do there's just an adrenaline rush that can't be replicated in the other mediums of meeting girls.
Daygame forces you to get out of your head and zone in on the girl. It's like being in the matrix/meditative state where you're viewing the interaction in 3rd person. I commonly have a rule where I will "insist" the conversation 2x before letting it go. E.g. "I always get the Katsu curry here... What do you get?" in a restaurant for example before saying then asking "You from around here" if she gives me a one word answer again then cool I let it go but I'll literally count in my head - I reckon this one will bite... 1, 2-
"I'm actually from ABC but recently moved here - what about you?"
Then there's body language? As I approach does she fully swivel round and hold my gaze, or does she not seem that into it? Alright let me test me it, I’ll playfully tease her then halfway turn as if I'm going to go then see if she pulls me back in.
It may even be that she's into it but in a rush... You going somewhere? No worries what's your number - let's get a drink sometime.
You’ll have all this sharp processing then re-assessing of the social interaction in your head, while externally just having a casual conversation. This can be 100% transferred to other areas like networking events and interviews
E.g. fuck the interviewers eyes are dazed I’m losing him as I’ve rambled and gone off topic to his question, let me throw in a joke here to lighten it up then give a concise 5 word answer
You simply cannot replicate this with online. Admittedly you can on the date but the preliminary work is where the social skills are refined.
I’ve seen it with friends of mine who get laid like champions from online but tell you with a straight face that they’re socially awkward and couldn’t really talk to a stranger girl.
IMHO daygame is “cooler” / “more manly" / “impressive” doesn’t matter which word you’d like to use and we all intuitively know it.
Besides being able to talk to a stranger, build attraction, set dates and eventually have a FB or future girlfriend just feels top fucking tier to me.
Perhaps it’s an arrogance or need to be different but also the fact that many guys can’t/won’t do it inspires me to do it even more.
3. My view of the world improves
With all this #Metoomovement and guys and girl relationships being more strained than ever. With daygame I'm able to create a reality where all this extreme toxicity simply isn't on my radar. Vast majority of my personal woman interactions are positive with the most "negative" one being a girl looking at me weirdly which ironically enough was one of the lesser attractive girls I approached. Even then I just assessed the situation, knew it wasn't on and bid her farewell in a positive and upbeat way.
The key to daygame is *SOCIAL CALIBRATION* and *APPEARANCE* That's it.
The truth is if you look presentable and respectfully hit on someone through a genuine compliment e.g. liking their: hair, choice of tattoo, clothes or accessories - hell even just asking a contextually relevant question like "are you going anywhere nice?" while stood at a bus stop. THEY'LL BE THE SOCIALLY AWKWARD ONE for not either
-respectfully declining your advances with the same energy you approached them with most commonly them not inputting the convo, headphones in or smiling but not engaging
or
-asking you back questions and making conversation
4. It's easier/more efficient to get laid in real life
This is the classic reactions vs results argument. Daygame has a higher emotional barrier to entry to talk to strangers and risk "social suicide" which is a myth in any settlement that has more people than farm animals.
Online however has a lower barrier to entry and *deceiving* quick results. For example you may get 50 matches over your first 3 days of signing up for Tinder (partly due to their new starter algorithm by the way) however 20 of those girls will live so far away the aren't worth pursuing, 15 of them won't reply to your message for numerous reasons ( not active, just want attention, didn't see it, already seeing someone etc.) which leaves 15 girls you'll talk to.
Out of the 15 maybe 10 will give you the number, 4 will "agree" to going on a date then 1-2 of them actually will. This is all in a time frame of 2-6 weeks.
Now with Daygame you'll approach 10 girls and maybe all of them go nowhere on the first week. This may look bad but this is good because it doesn't lie to you like Tinder. As it has such a high fall out rate you have a false sense of security that you have dates lined up but in reality you have texting buddies and future flakes.
With daygame in your next 10 girls you approach - 3 girls will reply to your text and although 2 may then flake the one who comes actually has a much higher chance to go somewhere than the tinder date. Furthermore because you mentally only have 1 "engaged person" you will continue to approach and not rest on your laurels.
This is in my experience at least *shrugs*
I think the more consistent daygame numbers becoming dates is because meeting someone in person is more novel and cute. The approach shows confidence which is attractive and she can show off to her friends too who are likely having mediocre online dates or in long term relationships cheering for her to have met "the one".
Be interesting to hear other people's thoughts
-DWW
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