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Too much woke/ Marxist stuff in studies , How do I feel at zen while studying ?

Spyce D

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So, in my course , there is lot of cultural Marxism , super woke , super feministic ideologies .You know where they make a group of people ashamed of who they are , I am part of those group of people .

I have to study all of that because it is part of my syllabus . Now , It is a career that I have so much passion for ....so , I wont quit my course for the sake of it .

But , I want to know that how do i feel calm while studyinbg all these which automatically triggers a 'push it back' kind of behavior in me . I have to read it for exams but I cringe reading most of it .

Any advice would be deeply appreciated . Or if you had any similar experiences , you may share it.
 

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I had to go through that too. In all honesty, it was terrible when I had to do it! But in retrospect, it was very giving because there are some interesting things with those theories (the methodology can be used elsewhere). However, learning something you disagree with, understanding it, and learning how to tackle it from the inside is very useful. In general, learning about things you do not agree with, and learning how to criticize it is a good exercise. So see this a great exercise.

However if it get overwhelming, change school. Not all schools focuses that much on it. Some are extreme. My first graduate school was totally infiltrated by wokists. My second one had none!

Also the word cultural Marxism is a perversion of Marxism. It is a term constructed by a certain group within the Frankfurt School :) Real Marxism is actually pretty interesting (like his theory of value, and his materialism - basically Hegelian dialectics, but about classes.... etc).

My advice is that you need to think long term. Learn things, do well in school and approach it with an open mind, and once you reach late graduate school (Masters) or PhD you strike back. Basically what I did!

Be smart!

-Teevster
 

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Don't repeat the same mistake as your lecturer. They are there to do politics! You are not! so in theory you shouldn't care about whether you agree with X or Y. What you care about is learning about theories and methodologies. See, any experts on X is an expert on the opposing theory.

For instance did you know that Karl Marx is one of the worlds best experts on Adam Smith and studied Adam Smith and David Ricardo extensively? He actually spent more time studying those capitalist thinkers than he did studying left-wing theories! The Majority of Das Kapital is a critic of capitalism! Not a book about communism!

Gotta keep that in the back of your head. A good academic is one who has studied things one disagrees with.

-Teevster
 

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I had to go through that too. In all honesty, it was terrible when I had to do it! But in retrospect, it was very giving because there are some interesting things with those theories (the methodology can be used elsewhere). However, learning something you disagree with, understanding it, and learning how to tackle it from the inside is very useful. In general, learning about things you do not agree with, and learning how to criticize it is a good exercise. So see this a great exercise.

However if it get overwhelming, change school. Not all schools focuses that much on it. Some are extreme. My first graduate school was totally infiltrated by wokists. My second one had none!

Also the word cultural Marxism is a perversion of Marxism. It is a term constructed by a certain group within the Frankfurt School :) Real Marxism is actually pretty interesting (like his theory of value, and his materialism - basically Hegelian dialectics, but about classes.... etc).

My advice is that you need to think long term. Learn things, do well in school and approach it with an open mind, and once you reach late graduate school (Masters) or PhD you strike back. Basically what I did!

Be smart!

-Teevster
Yeah . No other way round it .

Marxism and it's history is no doubt interesting .

Man , I could write a longer post but I have some social justice classes to take .:ROFLMAO:
 

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Don't repeat the same mistake as your lecturer. They are there to do politics! You are not! so in theory you shouldn't care about whether you agree with X or Y. What you care about is learning about theories and methodologies. See, any experts on X is an expert on the opposing theory.

For instance did you know that Karl Marx is one of the worlds best expert on Adam Smith and studied Adam Smith and David Ricardo extensively? He actually spent more time studying those capitalist thinkers than he did studying left-wing theories!

Gotta keep that in the back of your head. A good academic is one how has studied things one disagrees with.

-Teevster
Hmmm , Interesting take .

I will keep it in mind .

Got to screenshot this.
 

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Yeah . No other way round it .

Marxism and it's history is no doubt interesting .

Man , I could write a longer post but I have some social justice classes to take .:ROFLMAO:

Are you studying humanities or social science? These types of courses are typical in sociology and literature, as well as cultural studies. They can also be part of a philosophy curriculum, although less often.

-Teevster
 

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Here is the unwritten rule of academia:

Until you reach grad school and happen to be at the end of your master's (i.e. thesis) you sit down, learn, and shut up. Can't do that? Leave and go elsewhere (to a different uni if you have to!)

-Teevster
 
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Are you studying humanities or social science? These types of courses are typical in sociology and literature, as well as cultural studies. They can also be part of a philosophy curriculum, although less often.

-Teevster
Social studies .
 

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Here is the unwritten rules of academia:

Until you reach grad school and happen to be at the end of your master's (i.e. thesis) you sit down, learn, and shut up. Can't do that? Leave and go elsewhere (to a different uni if you have to!)

-Teevster
Ok . I will sit down and learn , then.

Thanks
 

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That’s a little part of how life works… any time you want to get deep into a craft/circle, you’re likely to deal with a skewed self-serving view of the world.

I used to take acting classes… everybody there was left leaning, feminist, LGBTQ, anti-religion, free loving, etc…

Then I spent some time in corporate… all the big shots are hyper-capitalist, pro-family, etc…

Then I did the entrepreneurial thing where some guys are like “bigger fish eats the small fish” and personal life is a distraction, gotta meditate and have a morning routine, wake up 4 AM or you’re a loser kind of thing…

Whenever people are in a position to lecture you (which in academia is plenty), they will use it to push their self-serving views on you.
And some circles are monopolized by certain kind of people who tend to be unsuccesful elsewhere.

Why is Hollywood so ridiculously inclusive??? Because it’s full of LGBTQ+ in its ranks.

Why is social sciences academia full of Marxists/social justice followers?
Because it’s one of the few fields where they can effectively find themselves useful.

All this to say that a man who is able to see past his station and his self-serving views is uncommon.
 

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At top graduate schools, they have disputas... the professor flips a coin for which position you will have to defend... and sometimes you need to defend things that are against your personal values, and sometimes they even make you defend absurd things just to test you rethoricsand argumentation skills.

I did not experience the latter gladly, but I did experience the former twice! It is a good exercise and the risk of you having to argue for something you don't stand for is done on purpose... it is intentional on the professors end!

-Teevster
 

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That’s a little part of how life works… any time you want to get deep into a craft/circle, you’re likely to deal with a skewed self-serving view of the world.

I used to take acting classes… everybody there was left leaning, feminist, LGBTQ, anti-religion, free loving, etc…

Then I spent some time in corporate… all the big shots are hyper-capitalist, pro-family, etc…

Then I did the entrepreneurial thing where some guys are like “bigger fish eats the small fish” and personal life is a distraction, gotta meditate and have a morning routine, wake up 4 AM or you’re a loser kind of thing…

Whenever people are in a position to lecture you (which in academia is plenty), they will use it to push their self-serving views on you.
And some circles are monopolized by certain kind of people who tend to be unsuccesful elsewhere.

Why is Hollywood so ridiculously inclusive??? Because it’s full of LGBTQ+ in its ranks.

Why is social sciences academia full of Marxists/social justice followers?
Because it’s one of the few fields where they can effectively find themselves useful.

All this to say that a man who is able to see past his station and his self-serving views is uncommon.
What I have seen that no matter which country , region , religion , demographics makeup ........ Cultural Marxism/ Modern politics stays the same but also different in the sense that .....In west , I have heard that not eating meat is a liberal thing but in India eating meat is a liberal thing . But it may want to erode native culture , kinda .

The only same thing here is the promotion of activities which may not be seen as common .

Speaking of acting and Film industry ....what the west does ..... Everybody follows in the other film industries ( with regional flavours , ofcourse) . Other reasons for film industries to be inclusive ( some more , some less ) could be more audience , more money .Maybe not everything is not about ideology .

Big news companies may show same stuff accordingly to different viewers in different countries so as to maintain their viewership . This is just my observation .... Could be wrong ( need more opinion) .

I don't really watch movies , or news ( most of the time ) so , I couldn't care less .

It's just the academia .... In which I will simply follow @Teevster advice .
 

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Why is Hollywood so ridiculously inclusive??? Because it’s full of LGBTQ+ in its ranks
For me , the real inclusive community is the Seduction community . 😂.

Boys become men , here .

No other community has people from so many cultures , race , ethnicities , nationalities , religion , class , economic background who have similar goals which are also really constructive and not just about some whining and bitching or about blaming women .( Weird videos floating over YouTube from so-called self improvement channels ) .
 
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