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Transmutation is the greatest compliment

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When we go up to talk to a girl, there are a lot of annoying little things to deal with:
  • How to go up without looking needy or too interested?
  • How do I manage my vibe?
  • What should I compliment her on?
  • What if she doesn’t respond the way I was hoping/expecting?
On top of these, when we approach we often believe that we are forced to accept a negotiating frame, where we are going in to negotiate a price to get the prize (her). Oh yeah, we are a prize as well! So maybe we are both prizes, but one is more valuable than the other, and maybe using discounts and coupons, throwing in an old sofa and a tv, and using a bit of nifty wheeling and dealing, the price and the goods can be made to match.

Needless to say, this is a horrible frame.

So what else is there? Maybe we can go in and talk and talk for a while, and then somehow wrangle a phone number after enough words have been spoken. After all, words might be cheap, but they are also quick to crank out, and only cost a couple of calories each. For the cost of a cheeseburger I can probably crank out enough to get a phone number right?

Nope, this is also a bad frame.

But what else is there? At the end of the day, we have to go in there and make something happen.

OK let’s go back to the beginning. If I want to seduce this girl, I have to make her want to be with me, enjoy being with me. So I have to make her feel good. I know, I’ll give her a compliment!

Not too bad! Compliments are usually the best way to meet a total stranger. But compliments are also cheap. What if I just think about it long and hard and come up with a really cool, really unique first-class, 500-word, 5-star, compliment that she just can’t help but truly enjoy? Hmm, sounds good, but something tells me that this is a road I shouldn’t be going down.

And what about after the compliment? Where is the continuation? Do I just keep giving compliments? Isn’t there a way I can give a continuous compliment?

Yes, my friend, there is! The greatest compliment, that is also a continuous, never-ending compliment, is to transmute her energy, to allow her to arouse you, and to reflect that arousal back to her. This requires no words, and it never needs to end.

What does it mean to transmute a girl’s energy though, is this some kind of wishy washy nonsense?

Well, put it like this: have you ever been walking along in a mall somewhere, and suddenly you hear music coming out of a store, and it’s this really catchy, rhythmic song, and almost without thinking, your feet start hitting the ground to the beat?

What your body is doing there is transmuting the music into movement. Energy exists in many different states, sound is one of them, and muscle movement is another. The energy simply crossed through space from the speaker and changed form – transmuted – into your walk or dance.

The greatest compliment you can give the music is that it made you dance. And just like music can make you dance, girls can make you dance too.

The best thing about this compliment though, is that it does not ask for a response, nor does it depend on one. It simply expresses, reflects, connects, and stimulates. It dances. And a dance never needs to end, in fact, it can whirl and twirl its way all the way to the bedroom, and continue between the sheets, and into the next morning and beyond.

But let’s be specific, what does it mean exactly to transmute her energy? How does this dance actually happen?

Well, first of all, I want you to think about something: when you see a beautiful girl, what do you feel? Excitement, anxiety, tension, desire, right? This is her energy in you, having crossed the space between you, ready to make you dance.

Will you fight it, force it down, be ashamed of it, shove it into the nearest dark recess of your mind, slam the door shut and lean on it to make sure it never comes out? Or will you weave it into something that matches her own beauty, and show that to her?

Will you let it rush through your body?

Will you let it fill your face and eyes with pleasure and delight?

Will you let it flow into your shoulders, your hips, your feet, lending them animation and grace?

Will you let it caress your balls, give you an erection?

If you do these things, when you dance toward her to show her what she has done with you, you will hardly need to speak a word, she will already know that you are the one for whom her beauty was made, and this contagious energy will make her start to dance with you.
 

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Another beautiful thread thanks Will. I believe this is what James D already does.

I need to keep this in mind for future approaches.
 

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Another beautiful thread thanks Will. I believe this is what James D already does.

Yeah, it's pretty evident from some of @James D's reports that he's having this effect.

I need to keep this in mind for future approaches.

For me it's a reflex, not something I turn on for the approach. I'll slip into doing it with all kinds of women, even ones I'm not interested in taking. At this point I don't really know any other way to be when I'm around them lol.
 

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I would only add (to be a bit more precise) that this vibe transmutation seems to work best when it isn't followed by direct or overt verbalization.

At least IME it's most potent when you connect with her without complimenting her eyes or anything fixed (complimenting her style or something that she has agency over, as James D does, is another thing).

It's almost like the tension is increasing, and you're not killing it by verbalizing it with a direct compliment (or excessive compliments), which achieves the same effect as kissing her would (killing the tension).
 
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This transmutation is the only one thing which consistently works for me when it comes to arousing women. As a matter of fact, verbalizing sex when you are connecting energetically, almost always backfires for me and I feel like I shoot myself in the foot.
 

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It's almost like the tension is increasing, and you're not killing it by verbalizing it with a direct compliment (or excessive compliments), which achieves the same effect as kissing her would (killing the tension).
I would agree that talking and joking is killing the tension. However, it's not always a bad thing actually.

This is beause raising and killing tension is a push-pull in practice.

It helps you control the tension, so you don't overdo it. Tension like everything else can be too much. If there is too much tension too early, it will actually turn her off. For that reason it's better to raise the tension (put pressure on her), kill the tension (put the pressure off and increase comfort). Rinse and repeat, and after few of these cycles, she can't control herself to jump on your cock. That's when she is so turned on that she will verbalize sex herself: "Fuck me, please."
 

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I would only add (to be a bit more precise) that this vibe transmutation seems to work best when it isn't followed by direct or overt verbalization.

At least IME it's most potent when you connect with her without complimenting her eyes or anything fixed (complimenting her style or something that she has agency over, as James D does, is another thing).

It's almost like the tension is increasing, and you're not killing it by verbalizing it with a direct compliment (or excessive compliments), which achieves the same effect as kissing her would (killing the tension).

Yeah, I think it's generally best not to compliment a woman on any physical feature during an approach, it's just too explicit.

This vibe works best when it is energetic but ambiguous - there can be elements of intent, restlessness, even a certain kind of sadness, various dimensions of self expression that aren't completely clear, depending on how much room there is within the context of the approach for these things. You want her to feel the stirring of something, without knowing exactly what or why.

Things like compliments and smiles in general depend very much on their subtleties. A compliment that is delivered in an offhand, dismissive, way, followed by a tranquil expression of curiosity mixed with nonverbal intent, is much better than something that is delivered like a fan. The former is not complete, not clear, laced with tension, whereas the latter comes across as if it is begging for something in return.

A smile is the same - an eager, anxious smile kills all the tension, but one that is ambiguous and licentious, that leaves the eyes to express more than just simple positivity, one that, in a way, looks a little dangerous, is far more suggestive and far more effective at maintaining sexual tension.

The way I see it, seduction is at its core theater, and just like in theater there is a gulf of difference in the effect upon someone watching between someone who can use all the depth of expressiveness of their face and body, and the average person who has never learned to understand or manage these things at all, when they are doing apparently the 'same' thing.
 
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This transmutation is the only one thing which consistently works for me when it comes to arousing women. As a matter of fact, verbalizing sex when you are connecting energetically, almost always backfires for me and I feel like I shoot myself in the foot.

I think it depends on how you say it, and the signals that come from you together with the words.

Generally I'm the same, I don't talk about sex directly, but I speak with loads of metaphors and double entendres, all the time. Sometimes I can see girls getting annoyed with it lol but it never seems to harm things as long as I'm super non needy and just enjoying myself - when it's pure self expression. I look at girls as one big stimulation organ - every part of their minds and bodies are created for stimulation, and as far as I'm concerned, stimulating them in all sorts of ways is as natural to do as pressing the keys on a piano.

Way I see it, when you talk about sex, you need to really remove the context from her. That means you can't be reacting to her reactions at all, you can't make it sound like it's about her, you can't make it feel like you are probing for something from her. It has to be this uninhibited self-expression as if she's just happening to be there while you are expressing something real about your own experiences in a completely casual and tranquil way, so that she's free to let it stimulate her without it having any consequence.
 
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