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seems like still same issues with attainability, anti slut defense or in this case even maybe with rather bigger pinch of fsc..or who knows(I hope you!)
I don't' want to do same mistake like with my post below but I again feel/think that I should do what i did with restaurant proposition for second in below post, to shut down her ASD (which was horrible idea in previous case, but there was no kissing):
(you can skip to "WHERE I FUCKED UP")
Saturday I've met with beautiful girl, let's call her "World Economic Forum" (from tinder..agh..), 10/10 (am I in love?), 27, at least 2 inches higher than me (+ she wore at least 2'' heels, it was funny to kiss for greetings)
I saw from start she was little bit disappointed by height difference (i was not lying, i just did not mentioned it in profile and she didn't ask). Never cared about it.(ok sometimes little bit, when I screw up date..but never before tinder haha, sick app, weak mind).
So, we are in this bar, talking, she is dodging eye contact, is little bit shy/disinterested, but after while, i am very straight forward with the compliments (generous compliments.. it is very easy with her, she looked very beautiful) and we have lot of common so she getting into it. Stronger eye contact, laughing, talking. Lots of talkin. Later little bit of roasting her style and acne. But she was on board.
Since I was so straight forward and she was very honest about her life (I liked it but to be honest, she was oversharing a lot) i dip into sex talk in cca 20 minutes, orgasms, favorite type of orgasm (heh, she did not know about her tits can orgasm), she mentioned her frustrating sex life from her LTR from years ago(there I mentioned how i feel that relationship is mainly about sex, how is sex important and interesting,..and how passion can never be replaced with material shit and status).
She was constantly blushing.
However, since last year she is dating a lot, i was not judging, she felt that she can trust me (and she can, i dont judge here), she also mentioned that she was only two times on girls night, but never had sex from it.
Not sure if I believe that.(she also mentioned she tried girl and she has A LOT guy friends).
I was not able to read her, how experienced and open is to sex. On one hand, i feel that she was teasing me with that girl comment(for some reason we did not dig into it, not sure because of waiter or some shit like that -> i was also getting drunk, what the fuck?)
Then we were speaking about some personal topics and views on life, we agreed, she liked my views, the bar closed (cca 2h in..long date, i know..) but it came in wrong time so I did not push for moving to my place but to another bar.
While we moved we spoke about how she don't like how people in this country can be judgmental, we spoke about fashion (chokers..she had one in purse and she couldn't wait to show it of in bar we were heading)
We are in new bar, i was getting pretty drunk (Not sure what is with me, i feel like shit last few weeks, even during dates..) she sits again in front of me (she mentioned in previous bar how she likes that we are sitting in front of each other since she loves the eye contact we have..also, she is in some regards pretty shy, how i mentioned, blushing, talking lot about guy friends but not really about sex itself)
Now we are talking pop culture, she loves one series which I love too, so i stand up and told her "you are perfect, i have to kiss you..oncheeks", i kissed her on cheeks multiple times (while i am writing it, in sounds cringe but..it was not) and left to toilet. When i came back, I asked about another show, she did not see it an i told her let's go to my place to watch it. She refused.
Then I changed topic and asked her what she likes about her most, she told me her "tits" (she was really intrigued by tits orgasm i mentioned at start...i think i have it from girlschase or youtube not sure..but i know i never gave it hahahah), she likes how they look, she was describing them a lot. She knew i was checking them (obviously) whole night, we laughed, i told her they will be also great for kids (in tinder convo i mentioned that i would make her 4 kids), she seriously (!) answered that she can imagine having two kids..but maybeee. During conversation i few times caress her face.(she is fucking gorgeous)
"WHERE I FUCKED UP"
Then she removed something from my t-shirt...i moved closer to her (intention to kissed her..in bar, cca 2 m from bar full of waitresses..what a dickhead... trust me guys, i read and try to implement what you are writing me..but shit i felt it would be right..luckily i was), she lean towards me to kiss me (I was surprised), so i played with it, dodged it, whispered her something nice, than grab her, lean in and kissed her. Deeply, passionately, we were kissing there at least 5 minutes like kids. I was playing with her tights, holding her neck, she had her lipstic everyhwere, i holed her hands and told her how beautiful she is. We were biting each other.
THEN she get emotional, like really moved...i tried to calm her down ( she was not necessary sad or crying, we were still kissing and she did not want to go anywhere), i sit next to her, tried to move with her to my place (2 mins away), not a chance...we were again, kissing like crazy, i had my hand almost in her butt (ahahah that bar is classy, i mean she was impressed i am taking her there..btw they were also closing). She then mentioned me, she needs to move on (something with her ex..hm).
I felt that she needs sex, that she is sexually frustrated and looking for excuse but i was wrong/awkward with execution.
I told her no worry, (did not gave up on sex), this night has multiple scenarios and all of them are good ( i did not want her to feel sad, she looked really "moved")
I told her i will walk her out to her place (by taxi, she lives few miles away), she refused, that she wants cry in taxi.
I told her ok, but give me something for memory -> she said she doesn't have anything (i forgot about that choker, but my intention was bit on my neck).
I asked for bite on my neck -> she delivered.
Then she asked me if i want to go on cigarette with her infront of the bar wait for taxi, we smoked, no too much talking, she was shivering, then we kissed ( i had to ask her to sit down again because her lips were too high and it would be fucking impractical ahahaha)
We are kissing, in a good mood and then taxi came, one last kiss, spank on butt and I told her to text me when she is at home (to be honest, i really worried, it was 2pm,. 4 h long date for fuck sake!)
In few minutes i received nice text on tinder she is at her place and good night. I texted good night princess. She liked it.
Since I am dummy, in -?>https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...-have-friendzone-situation.25864/#post-146004 I assumed that girl had ASD, and I proposed dinner as a second date (with her there was no kissing, but i felt she liked me and she was trying to be "serious") So, i though that now i am clever, and i did complete opposite. (spoiler, i'm not clever)
So next day around lunch, i sent her text ->
"hey girl, give me your number or contact"
"and also, i had interesting dream about you" (i tried this "gambit" from "skills", once i was successful with it, actually week ago, so i had it fresh in my mind, and to be honest, i woke up with morning wood so it was probably correct).
She answered few hours later with "like" on my dream msg, and question about the dream. No contact/number.(!)
And I, dummy, sent her very sexual msg, how i was dreaming about her coming to my place, in red dress (she mentioned how she has one dress in which she is dancing at home alone and just listening music), how we are kissing, and how i am feeling her body.
+ how i feel there is special chemistry between us. (which i feel)
no answer, over 25h.
my reasoning was that I bet heavy on her sexual frustration which she mentioned during date, trying to have sex on first date. But i was wrong and her ASD + maybe FSC put me probably into trash.
So, now, I feel like i am gonna text her something, what would change dynamics, i have in mind something like this:
hi princess, I hope you are doing good. I am still thinking about you, how "insert lots of honest compliments"
You catch my interest, It would be shame if we wouldn't met again, so i wouldn't be able enjoy your beauty, charm. etc. (again, some generous compliments + something sexy).
I like you, i liked being in your presence, sitting in front of you and looking into your eyes but even more, sitting next to you (thats when we were kissing).
I never felt so good with other woman, You are drug. + proposition for dinner and drinks later
I know it looks cringy, over the top and like from high school, but i think that making her feel special (honestly) and that i mean it seriously is only chance, since my sex talk screwed it up.
Also, she mentioned she is going to therapy
))))
Thank you gentlemen.
I don't' want to do same mistake like with my post below but I again feel/think that I should do what i did with restaurant proposition for second in below post, to shut down her ASD (which was horrible idea in previous case, but there was no kissing):
help with Post-Mortem -> we have friendzone situation
Hello Gentlemen, I have troubles to figure it out where I messed up (actually, still messing up, after girl described below I messed up another date), I would really appreciate your help and if I am taking into consideration correct things. to the point -> Date n.1 matched on tinder, she is 2...
www.skilledseducer.com
Saturday I've met with beautiful girl, let's call her "World Economic Forum" (from tinder..agh..), 10/10 (am I in love?), 27, at least 2 inches higher than me (+ she wore at least 2'' heels, it was funny to kiss for greetings)
I saw from start she was little bit disappointed by height difference (i was not lying, i just did not mentioned it in profile and she didn't ask). Never cared about it.(ok sometimes little bit, when I screw up date..but never before tinder haha, sick app, weak mind).
So, we are in this bar, talking, she is dodging eye contact, is little bit shy/disinterested, but after while, i am very straight forward with the compliments (generous compliments.. it is very easy with her, she looked very beautiful) and we have lot of common so she getting into it. Stronger eye contact, laughing, talking. Lots of talkin. Later little bit of roasting her style and acne. But she was on board.
Since I was so straight forward and she was very honest about her life (I liked it but to be honest, she was oversharing a lot) i dip into sex talk in cca 20 minutes, orgasms, favorite type of orgasm (heh, she did not know about her tits can orgasm), she mentioned her frustrating sex life from her LTR from years ago(there I mentioned how i feel that relationship is mainly about sex, how is sex important and interesting,..and how passion can never be replaced with material shit and status).
She was constantly blushing.
However, since last year she is dating a lot, i was not judging, she felt that she can trust me (and she can, i dont judge here), she also mentioned that she was only two times on girls night, but never had sex from it.
Not sure if I believe that.(she also mentioned she tried girl and she has A LOT guy friends).
I was not able to read her, how experienced and open is to sex. On one hand, i feel that she was teasing me with that girl comment(for some reason we did not dig into it, not sure because of waiter or some shit like that -> i was also getting drunk, what the fuck?)
Then we were speaking about some personal topics and views on life, we agreed, she liked my views, the bar closed (cca 2h in..long date, i know..) but it came in wrong time so I did not push for moving to my place but to another bar.
While we moved we spoke about how she don't like how people in this country can be judgmental, we spoke about fashion (chokers..she had one in purse and she couldn't wait to show it of in bar we were heading)
We are in new bar, i was getting pretty drunk (Not sure what is with me, i feel like shit last few weeks, even during dates..) she sits again in front of me (she mentioned in previous bar how she likes that we are sitting in front of each other since she loves the eye contact we have..also, she is in some regards pretty shy, how i mentioned, blushing, talking lot about guy friends but not really about sex itself)
Now we are talking pop culture, she loves one series which I love too, so i stand up and told her "you are perfect, i have to kiss you..oncheeks", i kissed her on cheeks multiple times (while i am writing it, in sounds cringe but..it was not) and left to toilet. When i came back, I asked about another show, she did not see it an i told her let's go to my place to watch it. She refused.
Then I changed topic and asked her what she likes about her most, she told me her "tits" (she was really intrigued by tits orgasm i mentioned at start...i think i have it from girlschase or youtube not sure..but i know i never gave it hahahah), she likes how they look, she was describing them a lot. She knew i was checking them (obviously) whole night, we laughed, i told her they will be also great for kids (in tinder convo i mentioned that i would make her 4 kids), she seriously (!) answered that she can imagine having two kids..but maybeee. During conversation i few times caress her face.(she is fucking gorgeous)
"WHERE I FUCKED UP"
Then she removed something from my t-shirt...i moved closer to her (intention to kissed her..in bar, cca 2 m from bar full of waitresses..what a dickhead... trust me guys, i read and try to implement what you are writing me..but shit i felt it would be right..luckily i was), she lean towards me to kiss me (I was surprised), so i played with it, dodged it, whispered her something nice, than grab her, lean in and kissed her. Deeply, passionately, we were kissing there at least 5 minutes like kids. I was playing with her tights, holding her neck, she had her lipstic everyhwere, i holed her hands and told her how beautiful she is. We were biting each other.
THEN she get emotional, like really moved...i tried to calm her down ( she was not necessary sad or crying, we were still kissing and she did not want to go anywhere), i sit next to her, tried to move with her to my place (2 mins away), not a chance...we were again, kissing like crazy, i had my hand almost in her butt (ahahah that bar is classy, i mean she was impressed i am taking her there..btw they were also closing). She then mentioned me, she needs to move on (something with her ex..hm).
I felt that she needs sex, that she is sexually frustrated and looking for excuse but i was wrong/awkward with execution.
I told her no worry, (did not gave up on sex), this night has multiple scenarios and all of them are good ( i did not want her to feel sad, she looked really "moved")
I told her i will walk her out to her place (by taxi, she lives few miles away), she refused, that she wants cry in taxi.
I told her ok, but give me something for memory -> she said she doesn't have anything (i forgot about that choker, but my intention was bit on my neck).
I asked for bite on my neck -> she delivered.
Then she asked me if i want to go on cigarette with her infront of the bar wait for taxi, we smoked, no too much talking, she was shivering, then we kissed ( i had to ask her to sit down again because her lips were too high and it would be fucking impractical ahahaha)
We are kissing, in a good mood and then taxi came, one last kiss, spank on butt and I told her to text me when she is at home (to be honest, i really worried, it was 2pm,. 4 h long date for fuck sake!)
In few minutes i received nice text on tinder she is at her place and good night. I texted good night princess. She liked it.
Since I am dummy, in -?>https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...-have-friendzone-situation.25864/#post-146004 I assumed that girl had ASD, and I proposed dinner as a second date (with her there was no kissing, but i felt she liked me and she was trying to be "serious") So, i though that now i am clever, and i did complete opposite. (spoiler, i'm not clever)
So next day around lunch, i sent her text ->
"hey girl, give me your number or contact"
"and also, i had interesting dream about you" (i tried this "gambit" from "skills", once i was successful with it, actually week ago, so i had it fresh in my mind, and to be honest, i woke up with morning wood so it was probably correct).
She answered few hours later with "like" on my dream msg, and question about the dream. No contact/number.(!)
And I, dummy, sent her very sexual msg, how i was dreaming about her coming to my place, in red dress (she mentioned how she has one dress in which she is dancing at home alone and just listening music), how we are kissing, and how i am feeling her body.
+ how i feel there is special chemistry between us. (which i feel)
no answer, over 25h.
my reasoning was that I bet heavy on her sexual frustration which she mentioned during date, trying to have sex on first date. But i was wrong and her ASD + maybe FSC put me probably into trash.
So, now, I feel like i am gonna text her something, what would change dynamics, i have in mind something like this:
hi princess, I hope you are doing good. I am still thinking about you, how "insert lots of honest compliments"
You catch my interest, It would be shame if we wouldn't met again, so i wouldn't be able enjoy your beauty, charm. etc. (again, some generous compliments + something sexy).
I like you, i liked being in your presence, sitting in front of you and looking into your eyes but even more, sitting next to you (thats when we were kissing).
I never felt so good with other woman, You are drug. + proposition for dinner and drinks later
I know it looks cringy, over the top and like from high school, but i think that making her feel special (honestly) and that i mean it seriously is only chance, since my sex talk screwed it up.
Also, she mentioned she is going to therapy
))))Thank you gentlemen.
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