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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey guys,

Decided to start a journal to keep track of my score in the snatch tournament, but I will gradually also use it to review my progress while learning the game.

Stay tuned

tvktvk
 

tvktvk

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Okay, so week 1 of the snatch tournie:

Tuesday - Great first night out, 1 kiss 17 p
Sets:
1 Girl walking - Went out alone, so I took a walk around downtown to see where the party was at. The town was pretty much dead lol. I start to walk back to where the main college bars are when a girl walks out of a bar behind me while coughing. I turn my head while walking and ask her if she's all right or if I should call an ambulance (in a playful way). She laughs, runs up to me and says she's fine. We talk a little, but it gets awkward pretty quick (she wasn't that cute). She's on her way home. If she was cute I would have grabbed her number. Just warming up though.
2 Girls in bar - Get to first bar and find a friend who brought three americans with him. I hang out with them. Go to the bar to get a beer. Ask these girls standing in front of the bar if they're in line, they giggle and say no. I ask them generic questions, how's they're night going on so on. They leave pretty quickly though. Oh well
3 Girls w/old school friend. Bump in to an old friend. He's with a guy and their talking to two girls. My friend has a girlfriend so he's just keeping one girl occupied so his friend can try to hook up with the other one. They girls seem intrigued by me and both say hi. I start talking to them. After 2 min the other dude is like "bro, wtf?" Haha, all right I'll let you have them and I say bye.
4 Siri - My friend and the americans went to my favourite bar passenger so I followed them. This place is PACKED. I open this cute blonde girl with bangs. Doesn't really go anywhere, but I should have asked for compliance of some sort. She looked super tired.
5 Hannah - I meet this girl as she's about to leave, we went to high school together. She's going to an afterparty with her friends. She tells I should come, I get her number and we make out a little bit before she goes. I called her later. She said she was going to sleep over there so I didn't pursue this any further.
6 Nina - The americans started to talk some girls and they tell them I am some celebrity from hollywood, loool. I play along and spew out bullshit. One of the girls Nina seems super intrigued. The next girl however grabs and Nina goes cold.
7 Dance floor girl - Girl grabs me and we dance. Ask for her name, but she can't hear me. She is with her friend who is giving me mean eyes. I then manage to bang my teeth on her head while she dancing, fuck. I just left of sheer awkwardness, but I should have pulled off the dancefloor...
8 After party girls - I leave the bar shortly afterwards and go to my local kebab & pizza shop. There are three girls sitting there. While I wait for my food I ask them if I can join them. We banter a lot and then their 3 other friends show up. One of the girls wants an afterparty. I tell them I live 2 blocks away and they all agree to come back to my place. The after party consisted mostly of loud girl talk and gossiping... I had my eyes on one of the girls and I think she wanted something to happen, but she's no way going to do anything with me with her 5 other friends there of course. They leave around 4.30 am and all give me a hug. Overall a very fun night out!

Takeaways:
Tip, dont bring 6 girls to an afterparty by yourself
Have to try to get more compliance from interactions

Thursday, probably my most frustrating night out ever, 1 number 7 p
Sets:
1 Sandy, shy hot girl
2 Alex, Hot girl and when drunk, doesn't care about social repercussions
3 Maya, Note to self: Never do that shit again EVER. Next time, ask her home
4 Girl on second floor - Extremely boring opening, whatever
5 Very hot thirsty girl on the dancefloor

FR from Thursday:

Well, here's another tale of epic fail with yours truly, tvktvk.
My Bro (let's call him Berserker) lives with a few hotties, and we pregame at their place.
I find 3 of them cute, one is way too drunk though. The 2 left are Sandy and Alex. Sandy is chasing me pretty hard from the get go. I mostly hang out with my Berserker, but Sandy follows us. I deep dive her only a little bit but I can tell she's attracted. Later at the pregame I end up sitting with Alex for a while and I bond pretty well with her and she warms up to me very quickly. When we leave the pregame to go to the bar, Sandy is walking with me and Berserker. At one point where my bro is nagging her she tells him "stop cockblocking me!" Berserker is laughing his ass off and I was thinking shit she's chasing me hard! Sandy runs up to the other girls embarrassed. I consult with Berserker and he says that Alex is more likely to go home with me though. He tells me she's one of those girls when drunk has very little care for social repercussions.

We follow the girls to their post exam party. We arrive early so me and Berserker go to another bar. Sandy follows us again. After a while she leaves because Berserker is still giving her shit. We then go back to the first bar and we hit the dancefloor. Thirsty hot girl appears and wants to grind on me. Didn't think much of this other than wow she's hot, because I was thinking of hooking up with Alex. We start talking a bit, but when I try to isolate and move her off the floor, friends grab her. I continue dancing and Alex has some guy on her trying to grind. When she sees me she gets away from him and starts getting nasty all over me. I'm thinking this is pretty much in the bag. After a while I tell her we should save something for later and she laughs. But her is where things go to shit...
Suddenly I see Sandy and Alex start to talk. At the time I didn't think over it, but they were looking at me and talking. They then disappear. I then meet Maya, a girl from school I've flirted with before briefly but here I fuck up big time. We're talking, her friend leaves her, and I move her to the couch to continue talking (compliance). We end up talking about making moves (trying to make the convo more sexual). I try to kiss her, she budges. I'm completely unfazed but was thinking shit that was stupid. She tells me she's thinks its superawkward to kiss in bars and asks if its that easy to kiss someone in a club. I tell her sometimes. This just tells me she's still interested but not completely comfortable with me yet. I try to set the mood again but her friends come to leave to another bar. I get her number though and I find the girls, Berserker and some freshmen from our school. Sandy is talking to one of the guys. I'm thinking great now I can take Alex home. But apparently Alex has made it her mission that Sandy gets dick tonight. So what she does is grabs the random guy's cutest friend and tells them they're leaving. I am thinking wtf just happened. I text Maya, she texts back and is at this bar 1 min away. Against all my better judgement, I chase (I was thinking okay, I KNOW this is chasing, but let's just see what happens). I get to the bar and scope it out. I see Maya with her friends talking to a couple of guys. I know one of them so I get into the group and start talking him who is really happy to see me. But while talking to him, the girls end up leaving...fuck. I go back to the first bar and open one more girl, but as I start to understand what happened with Sandy and Alex, my fire for approaching dies pretty fast.

I'm making a calculated guess here, but I have strong feeling that Sandy told Alex on the dancefloor that she wanted to hook up with me. But since Alex also wanted to hook up with me, she must have said something like screw me, let's find someone for you to hook up with. Remember that Alex is one of those 1% who can talk to any guy and pull him if he's attracted. SHE will take the lead. Because Sandy thought she couldn't get me, Alex made sure she got someone by grabbing the newfound guy's hottest friend while I ended up empty handed. I'm also guessing Alex would have felt bad if she fucked me knowing that Sandy wanted me. I am 99% certain both these girls were strongly attracted to me. If I hadn't switched girls, this would have also never happened... I should have known to just go for Sandy since she was chasing me so ridiculously hard all night! That's why this was so frustrating.

Takeaways:
Maya - NEVER CHASE. ASK HER HOME INSTEAD
don't go for the kiss in the club unless she's comfortable with you and showing strong signs of attraction. I should have teased her, and not gone straight for it.
I think I kept interrupting her, should have let her talk. I should have also talked about her career dreams. And also the team. I think I could have pulled her
Hot girl on dancefloor - Dance, tell her you like the ways she moves. Move her from the dancefloor and start to talk. Move once again, deepdive, sexualize. Pull.
Sandy and Alex - Go for the girl who's chasing you hardest, not supposedly the "easiest" girl

All these interactions were with very hot girls. Except one, all of them were instantly attracted to me which is very good. Think my fundamentals are pretty hard nailed down right now.

Saturday, Ok night out, best prospects had bf's. 6 approaches, 6 p
Watched the CL final with some friends, went to another friends house afterwards. Bunch of soccer players came that were going out, but we don't leave before 12.45 am. They were going to this place where you have to be 24 and above so I ditched them. There was very few people out on a saturday, wtf.
Sets:
1. Interrupted approach - In the first bar I go to the second floor to get some water. A few feet to my left this girl is asking the bartender for a good cocktail. She's dressed very slutty. I ask her very nonchalantly if she found something good. She answers she doesn't know yet and asks me if I'm sad (I was brooding). I give her a half smile and know that she's interested. I intend to talk to her once I get my water, but this dude standing between us start talking to her while I'm talking to the bartender. When I get my water I wait 10 seconds to see if she's going to ditch this guy or not. Should have probably wait longer but I thought screw this...
2. Maria - I left the bar and went to passenger. I walk past the dancefloor and find a group of girls. I ask one of them if I could leave my jacket next to her. She says very warmly no problem. I then tell her I think she's cute and ask for her name. We have good convo, but she tells me she has a bf and tell me I should dance with her ugly friend. nuh uh.
3. Friend of Maria's - One of Maria's other friends start dancing with me. We talk for a little bit, then she gets a phonecall and says she has to go.
4. Girl outside passenger - I go out for some fresh air. Ask this girl a few generic q's, how's your night going etc. None of us were really interested in the other part lol.
5. Helena - While I was talking to Maria I was also eyeing her hottest friend. We exchange some flirty eyes and smiles. I point to the seat next to her and then point at me. She nods and smiles. The convo is nothing special, but she has this bubbly feminine vibe which I'm digging. I ask her what they're doing later. She tells me they're getting picked up. I tell her we should go on a date next week and her ask when she's free. She says she also has a boyfriend like Maria and he's the one picking them up later. But then she started complimenting me heavy, saying how handsome and well groomed I was. And also that she would totally bang me on the first date, haha. Dunno how seriously I should take the compliments but it was nice nonetheless.
6. Club queen - While talking to Helena I spot club queen and she's def eyeing me heavy. I'm thinking preselection may help me pull this girl. I'm about to walk to her, but then this idiot start to hit on her, arrghh... When he leaves she and her friend grabs their coat. As their walking I give her a tug in her blouse and just say hey, what's up. She does just says sorry I have to go and gives me a kiss on the cheek. Ugh. Felt that shit was more condescending than flirty.

Summary of week 1
17 + 7 + 6 = 30 p
Also got phonenumber from tinder, 33 p if tinder counts

Really just have to amp up compliance and start asking girls home. Need to push myself. Come on tvktvk.
 

tvktvk

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Week 2 + Monday

Didn't do that much this last week cause of my last exam. If we include this Monday I had three outings:

Friday - Best friend back in town, did very little gaming. 2 p
Not much to say about Friday really. My best bro was finally home and this was the only day this summer we could hang out before my internship starts, so I spent most of my night with him. He's a natural, but has some of the wrong mindsets when it comes to girls. He got a new girlfriend after moving away and he's always with someone. I tried telling him how I'm trying to improve myself in every way, and he just kinda frowned upon me. He just told me to be myself, lol. He loves me so much though, that's why I think he believes I don't need to improve.

He came over to my place we had few beers at my place before going to some other friends. Got drunk went out and did very little gaming. Don't remember how many girls I approached in the bars, but I know there was at least two so let's just keep it at that. Not really any takeaways from this one.

Saturday - Got drunk at the cinema, none of my approaches panned out. 10 p
Went to watch Entourage the movie with some friends. This tv show was my basically my teenager years so I felt a lot of nostalgia. Brought a flask with me to the movie and got drunk lol. Met some other friends in this bar let's call it "Uptowns". Then I took it from there:
Sets:
1. Christina is an extended social circle girl. I was at the bar with my female friend who's the biggest flirt. I was grabbing her ass and we're just having fun and then Christina exclaims my name enthusiastically from behind. It was first awkward because I didn't recognice her, but I managed to turn it around. I moved her to our table, deep odve her and toched her a lot coupled with direct eye contact. Didn't say anything sexual or chaseframy but after a while she mentions her boyfriend. NEXT
2. Meet my best bro's cute cousin. She introduces me to a couple of her friends, but they both acted aloof. NEXT
3. Thea. Meet one of my friends (Oliver) from school and he's with his hot friend who just had her birthday. This was a fun little convo:
Me - How old are you turning?
Ollie - She just turned 40! (joke)
Me - Milf much? (Sexy smiles)
Thea - Hahahah, I just turned 22!
Ollie - Yeah, muliply that by 2 and you have it. She keeps it pretty tight though!
Me - Indeed she does. Well I'm gonna head to another bar, this one's getting way too crowded. U guys wanna come with?
Ollie - Yeah, we just have to wait for the rest of our crew, but send me a text okay?
Me - Sure. Was nice meeting you Thea.
Thea - You too! Smiles
Texted me later that were at some bar but I never went there. Oh well.
4. One my way out I start chatting up this girl in the elevator. In that 1 minute she didn't hook and told me she had to find her friend in the line outside the bar.
5. I go to my usual bar the passenger. I wait in the line at least 15 minutes. I start talking to the cute girl in front of me. I make a comment about her drunk friend who can't stand up straight. We talk but all she' did was complain about being kicked out of this other bar where all her friends were. After a few minutes they ditch the line.
6. When I get in I try to find a place to sit. Ask this girl with her four friends if the seat next her is taken. She's very warm and I sit down. We talk a bit but it's hard with all the music. She seems very interested though, touching me a lot. I'm pretty sure I could have pulled her but I didn't find her very attractive. Arrgh... ditched them after a while.
7. I walk around a little bit and I walk past this latina hottie. We both smile to each other and I'm thinking have I seen this girl before at my school? 1 minute later I approach her and ask if she goes to my school. She says no, but she's also pretty sure she's seen me somewhere as well. I move her to another place in the bar and we start talking a little bit. I get to know she's half norwegian half chilean. I LOVE mixed girls so I thought I just hit the jackpot. Then suddenly a tall, fairly cool looking dude walks up and talk to her for a minute. When he leaves she tells me it's her boyfriend. Well shit. We end the convo pretty quickly after that and I leave her with "was nice to meet you, too bad you're not single" and a half smile.
8. Bar's closing soon but I run into two friends and a girl. We're singing old classics and she's giving me flirty looks, but I could tell this girl was a big flirt. We exchange names, but nothing else really happens
9. The bar closes and we're just hanging around with no purpose. We're all talking to this short pretty blond girl Ida, she doesn't really seem interested in any of us. Turns out she goes home with this natural I've met before (the fuckbuddy to Zoey's best friend). Really need to see this guy in action. Buut I kinda sensed that this was not their first time going home together so I don't know.
10. Emily. Before the bouncer kicked us out of the bar I saw this girl looking at me through my peripherals. I thought she was someone from school. She's talking to her girls outside and some guy one of my friends know. Suddenly she kicks beer bottle in my direction and it hits my foot! wtf, that shit hurt. Everyone's laughing and she's like OMG are you okay? I keep a positive tone but I tell her to come over here and give me a proper apology. We start talking and she asks me how I know one of my friends. After that I was sure she wanted me. Looking at me at the bar, kicking bottle at me to get my attention, and then taking initiative in talking to me. And this was also the hottest girl of the ten I'd been talking to this night. Unfotunately my stupid butt in to the convo and ruins the sexual tension. She does however invite us to come to their afterparty. We follow them a couple of blocks, then they stop and start talking to some other girls. It's soon 4 am and I need to study the next day, so I bail.

Monday, Post exam bash, not much worth noting. 4 p
Had my last exam on Monday and there was a party at my school. Thing is that it's not in downtown so logistics are pretty bad. Pregamed at a female friend's place, had pretty good convos with both girls. At school I talked to Maya and she seemed still interested in me, but I didn't pursue it a lot because a friend was trying to seduce her (and this guy is valuable to me in other ways than just a friend). Also talked to this cute girl I've been small talking to at school, but she was in party mode and wouldn't leave her friends. Also talked to some other girls but can't remember the interactions, so let's dial it up to 4 sets.

Overall takeaways:
- Need to push harder, going to do that on Thursday.
- The girls I'm attracting attention from these days are HOT, good sign
- Keep grinding

Total points Week 2: 16

tvktvk
 

tvktvk

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey guys,

Since last post I've done very little gaming, been busy with family and friends. I also started my summer job as a sales rep a few days ago. I've only been out in the field two days but so far it's been a GREAT learning experience and I believe it will help me improve my seduction skills tremendously. Elements that are heavily emphasized are good openings, body language, compliance, deep dive, persistence, and small talk (pull talk). Also having the right mindsets like being able to put the customer at ease and make them truly believe that the product will add value to them are vital. It's extreemely similar to seduction, only difference is that you don't add the sexual undertones to your interactions.

Interactions since last post
Thursday last week had huge potential, but I screwed it up. I was going out with a friend I havent been out for a while. For future reference I will call this homie Runner. Runner is a tall lean dude with a model face and long beautiful hair. I thought we were going out to chase tail together, but when I went over to his place this girl he'd been seeing was there. When we headed out he told me there had been a lot of drama with this girl, she kept pushing for relationship, he didn't want one, but he still had feelings for her. I originally broke it off, but they've been bootycalling each other for some time now. He had told her that she could stay at his place that night... I also didn't want to abandon him so I hung out with him for most of the night. Hopefully we can game together in the future. At the end of the night I rolled solo and made two approaches but they were off. Oh well.

Friday I went to a female friend's farewell party, she was leaving for exchange. The girls I were hoping to show never came, but I had very good convo with a cute blonde I've met before. Should have grabbed her number at a high point, but I forgot and at the end one of her friends butted in.

Saturday before I left for Sweden I talked to the hot part time worker at my local seven eleven. Should have grabbed her number. Since I came to Sweden I've started to tip toe into day gaming and have made 2 approaches at a shopping mall. Unfortunately they were both under 18 so I didn't grab any of their numbers, but both seemed super intrigued and attracted.

Total of 5 p

tvktvk
 
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tvktvk

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hello there.

Haven't posted in this journal in ages. Just in here for an update on my progress because I recently reached a few milestones.

1. I had my lay #10 earlier today, that means I've gotten 10 lays within these 13 months I've been actively slaying pussy. (Also 3 of those girls I've had sex with twice)
2. My lay today was also my first lay from a 2-date-system
3. My lay #9 was bathroom sex in a bar, this has been one of my main goals on my sexual bucketlist, so super stoked over that lay (still gets me horny just how badly she wanted me).

Here is a evaluation of my fundamentals and game as of right now:

FUNDAMENTALS:
Sexy fashion 9
Sexy body 7
Sexy hair 7
Sexy facial hair 9
Sexy eye contact 8
Sexy voice 9
Sexy facial expressions 7
Sexy posture 7
Sexy slow and smooth movement 7
Sexy walk 8
Sexy spezzatura 7

Total avg: 7,7 (I know this is very high, yet I feel I could honestly rank some stuff higher, that's how confident I feel about my fundamentals)

GAME
Approaching 5
Banter 6
Deep diving, making her talk 8
Sexy humour 6
Creating sexual tension 7
Building intrigue, teasing and cresting emotion 6
Sexual frame 6
Moving the interaction forward 7
Frame control 6
Handlings obstacles, objections and tests 6
Escalation 7
Sex 7
Texting 5

Total avg: 6,3

My goal is having an avg of 8 on both my fundamentals and game, maybe even higher for my fundamentals.

Thoughts on my progress and current state:
- My abundance mentality has grown tremendously and is at a very high level right now (that could however change)
- I need to up my standards because shit is becomin silly easy these days
- Having sex with thicker girls has become a huge turnoff for me
- Tinder really sucks for me. I finally have high quality photos, but still no decent results. While during clubgame and extended social circles, I'm getting serious attention from legit models.
- I owe this website and forum so much it's not even funny. I LOVE YOU GUYS!
- Going forward my goal is to only get involved with models or skinny hot girls. We'll see how that goes.

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