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I went to the mall today to return a pair of jeans, and decided to talk to a few girls on the way.
Veronica: She was walking along with two friends and when my wingman and I passed by, I smiled at her, and she giggled, so I turned around and decided to open.
Me: "Hey, I saw you and thought you were cute! I wanted to come say hi before I lost the chance. I'm AP!"
Her: "Oh, hi! Haha, I'm Veronica!" (I shake hands and hold)
Me: "So anyway, I can tell pretty much right off the bat when I think a girl is attractive... What I can't tell is if we'll click. Can you tell me something interesting about you?"
WingMan: "Hey man, what'd I miss?"
Me: "This is my friend Roman! Roman, this is.... What's my name?"
Her: "Um.... AP right?"
Me: "Damn it! Haha, I was hoping you would have forgotten and we'd be even"
Her: "Oh that's okay! I'm Veronica!"
Me: "Now I owe you something... Do you want to come grab caribou with us?"
Her: "Haha, no that's okay... I'm good."
Me: "Alright, that's cool. What are you guys up to then?"
Friend: "We're actually about to go into Barnes & Nobles for some sort of drink I think. We'll leave you two alone though! *laughs*"
Her: "Haha, no! I want to come with!"
WingMan: "Can we come with?"
Her: "Um... Sure! Haha!"
Me: "Cool." (We begin walking) "So you never got to tell me something interesting about you."
Her: "Let's see... I draw... I (bunch of other stuff I don't remember)"
Me: "You're an artist? Awesome! What do you draw?"
Her: "Um... Some anime... A lot of characters from Adventure Time!"
WingMan: "YES! I LOVE Adventure Time! What time is it?"
Her: "Adventure Time! Hahaha!"
WingMan: "What Animes do you watch?"
Her: "A lot of girly animes..."
Me: "My cousin showed me a really girly one... I think it was called orange high school something.... It was about this lesbian girl that dressed like a guy and got dragged into this host club.."
Her: "I think I know what you're talking about! That one's actually one of my favorites!"
WingMan: "Do you watch Naruto?"
Her: "Um... No. I need to start though!"
WingMan: "Do you watch Shippuden?"
Her: "No... Haha!"
Me: "Do you take pictures of your work?"
Her: "Um yeah, I actually have them on my phone!"
Me: "May I see?"
Her: "Sure!" (Shows me her pictures) "That's one from my Anime side"
Me: "This is awesome! Are those vampire teeth marks?"
Her: "Yes!"
Me: "Do you have more? Can I scroll?"
Her: "Um, don't scroll. I have more!"
Me: "Sure! Is it that you have a lot of dirty pictures, or why can't I scroll?"
Her: "Haha, no! I have a lot of random pictures of my cat! I'm kind of obsessed."
WingMan: "Yeah, because that's so uncommon."
Me: "This one's really nice too... I love how you contrasted the colors like that! I was big into anime a long time ago in middle school. I used to spend whole nights just drawing... I stopped at some point and got into psychedelic art and now I haven't drawn a whole lot in a good while. I never kept any of it though, otherwise I'd show you."
Her: "Oh! ..Why not?"
Me: "I believe in art for the moment. What I love is making art, not keeping it. My friends always asked me to draw things, and I'd do it and give it to them.. Anything I ever did keep just got lost!"
Her: "Oh, I see! Cool!"
Me: "You seem like a really cool person. You and I should text sometime!"
Her: "I have a boyfriend, sorry!"
Me: "That's cool. We can just be friends then."
Her: "Can you look me up on facebook?"
Me: "Sure! ...Damn it, I'm so bad with names!"
Her: "That's okay! Look me up as (gives me facebook name)"
Me: "Oh okay!"
Her: "I know that's a bit weird.. Haha!"
Me: "Hey, a little creativity never hurt anyone."
WingMan: (To me under his breath) "We've just wasted seven minutes."
Me: "It's never a waste of time. She's cool!" *back to her* "The five of us should hang out in the mall!"
Her: "Actually, we're just about to leave."
Me: "Okay, well, it was really nice meeting you!"
Her: "Yeah, you too!"
Looking back at this, there were so many times I could have deep dived but lost the opportunity. With a wingman interjecting so often, I lose a lot of opportunities... On the plus side, the girls are warmer and more receptive due to the social proof.
On a side note, the whole interaction was done in front of the girl who worked at Starbucks who was miffed at me for hitting on both her and her friend on two different days... I tried to avoid eye contact with her, but I think she saw me. The security at the place I was kicked out of probably told her about me, and there's a good chance she might have reported me. I saw a guy from mall security pretty much follow my wingman and me around, and he stopped once facing us on the other side of a stairwell. I think he took our physical descriptions.
Sarah: As we made a getaway into JC Penney's, I bought a pair of Arizona jeans with the money I got from returning the Levi's to Sears. After paying, we went back intending to find more girls in the mall, but I saw a gorgeous blonde shoe shopping with her mom. My friend did his regular fake texting thing, and I went to open.
Me: (Whispering) "Hey, I saw you standing there and had to come tell you I thought you looked amazing! I'm AP!"
Her: "Oh, haha! I'm Sarah!"
Me: "So what are you doing here? Just shoe shopping?"
Mom: "Yeah, we're getting ready for a wedding party!"
Me: "Oh awesome! Not yours I hope?"
Her: "No, haha! Not yet!"
Me: "Good because I was prepared to go cry in the corner and eat a tub of ice cream."
Her: "Haha!"
Me: "How old are you?"
Her: "Fifteen. How old are you?"
Me: "Ooh.... Seventeen!"
WingMan: "Hey bro! What'd I miss!"
Me: "This is my friend Roman!"
Her: "Hi Roman!"
Me: "So anyway, obviously I went over because I thought you were really attractive... What I can't tell right off the bat is if our personalities match... Can you tell me something interesting about you?"
Her: "Um... my favorite color is purple... I'm not interested in dating anyone at the moment..."
Me: "So you'd probably friend zone me?"
Her: "Yep! Sorry!"
Me: "You're fine! I'm cool being just friends as long as you're cool about me still finding you attractive."
Her: "Okay, sure!"
Me: "What's your number?"
Her: "(Gives me number) That's a really cool necklace."
Me: "Thank you! I got this at Gordmans. I love odd numbers."
WingMan: "He is an odd number."
Her: "Hahaha!"
Me: "You've got really interesting earrings." (I play with her earrings a bit)
Her: "Thank you!"
Me: "Are you into sports? Music?"
Her: "I'm definitely into sports.. I've done (names a bunch of sports)"
Me: "Wow, you've been all over the place!"
Her: "I have! Are you planning on going to college?"
Me: "Um yeah. I haven't decided on which one though. Have you decided what college and major?"
Her: "Um.. I don't know... I'm not from around here. I'm from Somerset!"
Me: "That's in Wisconsin right?"
Her: "Yep!"
Me: "Are all the girls in Somerset this pretty? Because I will move there." *both the mom and the daughter laugh*
WingMan: "Yeah, and take me with you! *to me under breath* How much time do we have left?"
Me: "Oh crap.. Sorry, we got to go. I'll... text you?"
Her: "Sounds good to me!"
Me: "Perfect. Hug goodbye?"
Her: "Sorry. Touch barrier. Stranger danger haha!"
Me: "Alright, that's cool. See ya!"
Once again, now that I look back at this, I had many deep diving opportunities that were interrupted by my wingman. Though it's nice to have him around for social proof, I think I'll bring one of my more awkward friends next time. I also sort of feel like he's trying to compete with me for the girls he wasn't willing to approach.
Things I did well:
1) I'm speaking far more calmly and slower than I originally did
2) I'm hooking far faster
3) I'm using social proof to my advantage
Things that could be done better:
1) I'm not deep diving anymore
2) I forgot to find ways to make the girl invest
3) I still need to be more chill and slow
Things I learned:
1) Wingmen are great for social proof, but make deep diving more difficult
2) I need a wingman that will let me do my work
3) Moms seem to really love me and have never given me trouble
Veronica: She was walking along with two friends and when my wingman and I passed by, I smiled at her, and she giggled, so I turned around and decided to open.
Me: "Hey, I saw you and thought you were cute! I wanted to come say hi before I lost the chance. I'm AP!"
Her: "Oh, hi! Haha, I'm Veronica!" (I shake hands and hold)
Me: "So anyway, I can tell pretty much right off the bat when I think a girl is attractive... What I can't tell is if we'll click. Can you tell me something interesting about you?"
WingMan: "Hey man, what'd I miss?"
Me: "This is my friend Roman! Roman, this is.... What's my name?"
Her: "Um.... AP right?"
Me: "Damn it! Haha, I was hoping you would have forgotten and we'd be even"
Her: "Oh that's okay! I'm Veronica!"
Me: "Now I owe you something... Do you want to come grab caribou with us?"
Her: "Haha, no that's okay... I'm good."
Me: "Alright, that's cool. What are you guys up to then?"
Friend: "We're actually about to go into Barnes & Nobles for some sort of drink I think. We'll leave you two alone though! *laughs*"
Her: "Haha, no! I want to come with!"
WingMan: "Can we come with?"
Her: "Um... Sure! Haha!"
Me: "Cool." (We begin walking) "So you never got to tell me something interesting about you."
Her: "Let's see... I draw... I (bunch of other stuff I don't remember)"
Me: "You're an artist? Awesome! What do you draw?"
Her: "Um... Some anime... A lot of characters from Adventure Time!"
WingMan: "YES! I LOVE Adventure Time! What time is it?"
Her: "Adventure Time! Hahaha!"
WingMan: "What Animes do you watch?"
Her: "A lot of girly animes..."
Me: "My cousin showed me a really girly one... I think it was called orange high school something.... It was about this lesbian girl that dressed like a guy and got dragged into this host club.."
Her: "I think I know what you're talking about! That one's actually one of my favorites!"
WingMan: "Do you watch Naruto?"
Her: "Um... No. I need to start though!"
WingMan: "Do you watch Shippuden?"
Her: "No... Haha!"
Me: "Do you take pictures of your work?"
Her: "Um yeah, I actually have them on my phone!"
Me: "May I see?"
Her: "Sure!" (Shows me her pictures) "That's one from my Anime side"
Me: "This is awesome! Are those vampire teeth marks?"
Her: "Yes!"
Me: "Do you have more? Can I scroll?"
Her: "Um, don't scroll. I have more!"
Me: "Sure! Is it that you have a lot of dirty pictures, or why can't I scroll?"
Her: "Haha, no! I have a lot of random pictures of my cat! I'm kind of obsessed."
WingMan: "Yeah, because that's so uncommon."
Me: "This one's really nice too... I love how you contrasted the colors like that! I was big into anime a long time ago in middle school. I used to spend whole nights just drawing... I stopped at some point and got into psychedelic art and now I haven't drawn a whole lot in a good while. I never kept any of it though, otherwise I'd show you."
Her: "Oh! ..Why not?"
Me: "I believe in art for the moment. What I love is making art, not keeping it. My friends always asked me to draw things, and I'd do it and give it to them.. Anything I ever did keep just got lost!"
Her: "Oh, I see! Cool!"
Me: "You seem like a really cool person. You and I should text sometime!"
Her: "I have a boyfriend, sorry!"
Me: "That's cool. We can just be friends then."
Her: "Can you look me up on facebook?"
Me: "Sure! ...Damn it, I'm so bad with names!"
Her: "That's okay! Look me up as (gives me facebook name)"
Me: "Oh okay!"
Her: "I know that's a bit weird.. Haha!"
Me: "Hey, a little creativity never hurt anyone."
WingMan: (To me under his breath) "We've just wasted seven minutes."
Me: "It's never a waste of time. She's cool!" *back to her* "The five of us should hang out in the mall!"
Her: "Actually, we're just about to leave."
Me: "Okay, well, it was really nice meeting you!"
Her: "Yeah, you too!"
Looking back at this, there were so many times I could have deep dived but lost the opportunity. With a wingman interjecting so often, I lose a lot of opportunities... On the plus side, the girls are warmer and more receptive due to the social proof.
On a side note, the whole interaction was done in front of the girl who worked at Starbucks who was miffed at me for hitting on both her and her friend on two different days... I tried to avoid eye contact with her, but I think she saw me. The security at the place I was kicked out of probably told her about me, and there's a good chance she might have reported me. I saw a guy from mall security pretty much follow my wingman and me around, and he stopped once facing us on the other side of a stairwell. I think he took our physical descriptions.
Sarah: As we made a getaway into JC Penney's, I bought a pair of Arizona jeans with the money I got from returning the Levi's to Sears. After paying, we went back intending to find more girls in the mall, but I saw a gorgeous blonde shoe shopping with her mom. My friend did his regular fake texting thing, and I went to open.
Me: (Whispering) "Hey, I saw you standing there and had to come tell you I thought you looked amazing! I'm AP!"
Her: "Oh, haha! I'm Sarah!"
Me: "So what are you doing here? Just shoe shopping?"
Mom: "Yeah, we're getting ready for a wedding party!"
Me: "Oh awesome! Not yours I hope?"
Her: "No, haha! Not yet!"
Me: "Good because I was prepared to go cry in the corner and eat a tub of ice cream."
Her: "Haha!"
Me: "How old are you?"
Her: "Fifteen. How old are you?"
Me: "Ooh.... Seventeen!"
WingMan: "Hey bro! What'd I miss!"
Me: "This is my friend Roman!"
Her: "Hi Roman!"
Me: "So anyway, obviously I went over because I thought you were really attractive... What I can't tell right off the bat is if our personalities match... Can you tell me something interesting about you?"
Her: "Um... my favorite color is purple... I'm not interested in dating anyone at the moment..."
Me: "So you'd probably friend zone me?"
Her: "Yep! Sorry!"
Me: "You're fine! I'm cool being just friends as long as you're cool about me still finding you attractive."
Her: "Okay, sure!"
Me: "What's your number?"
Her: "(Gives me number) That's a really cool necklace."
Me: "Thank you! I got this at Gordmans. I love odd numbers."
WingMan: "He is an odd number."
Her: "Hahaha!"
Me: "You've got really interesting earrings." (I play with her earrings a bit)
Her: "Thank you!"
Me: "Are you into sports? Music?"
Her: "I'm definitely into sports.. I've done (names a bunch of sports)"
Me: "Wow, you've been all over the place!"
Her: "I have! Are you planning on going to college?"
Me: "Um yeah. I haven't decided on which one though. Have you decided what college and major?"
Her: "Um.. I don't know... I'm not from around here. I'm from Somerset!"
Me: "That's in Wisconsin right?"
Her: "Yep!"
Me: "Are all the girls in Somerset this pretty? Because I will move there." *both the mom and the daughter laugh*
WingMan: "Yeah, and take me with you! *to me under breath* How much time do we have left?"
Me: "Oh crap.. Sorry, we got to go. I'll... text you?"
Her: "Sounds good to me!"
Me: "Perfect. Hug goodbye?"
Her: "Sorry. Touch barrier. Stranger danger haha!"
Me: "Alright, that's cool. See ya!"
Once again, now that I look back at this, I had many deep diving opportunities that were interrupted by my wingman. Though it's nice to have him around for social proof, I think I'll bring one of my more awkward friends next time. I also sort of feel like he's trying to compete with me for the girls he wasn't willing to approach.
Things I did well:
1) I'm speaking far more calmly and slower than I originally did
2) I'm hooking far faster
3) I'm using social proof to my advantage
Things that could be done better:
1) I'm not deep diving anymore
2) I forgot to find ways to make the girl invest
3) I still need to be more chill and slow
Things I learned:
1) Wingmen are great for social proof, but make deep diving more difficult
2) I need a wingman that will let me do my work
3) Moms seem to really love me and have never given me trouble