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Animatronic_Squirrel

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I'm failing university. I'm checked out, don't know where I want to go, what I want to do. I couldn't tell you what my priorities are in life, what I enjoy.

I know this sounds desperate and helpless - I literally do not know where to turn right now. What the hell do I do? I just want to be able to get through university and get my degree.
 
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Drck

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Most people really have no clue what to study, they just go there to get some degree. Sometimes it is not what you like, it is more about what you dislike. I used to work outside, hard manual and low paying job - talk about motivation! Never ever, after such experience you'll be happy to study anything. Try it for one summer and you'll see.

Finish it, even C's are good, once you get a degree nobody will ever ask you what grades you had. It's just a useful trophy under your belt, many decent jobs require some degree. You can always try manual work later :)
 

Lotus

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The most important part of college isn't the degree, it's all the life experiences you accumulate. Living on your own, time managment, decision making skills are all substaintially more important then the knowledge you gain. Most shit they teach you you can learn on your own anyway.

Go to class even if you don't want to.
Study even if you don't want to.
Pass your tests.

Doing things you don't want to makes you stronger.

Finish it, even C's are good, once you get a degree nobody will ever ask you what grades you had. It's just a useful trophy under your belt, many decent jobs require some degree. You can always try manual work later :)

I completely agree finishing is better then not, but you have to be very careful with "nobody will ever ask you what grades you had". That isn't a blanket statement you can blindly ascribe to, beacuse any job that requires a degree WILL ask for GPA and when push comes to shove two equal candidates with different GPAs.... who do you think is going to get the job?

Most people won't end up living like Chase and Drexel, which is why they are in the minority.
 

Chase

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Moved this one to "Lifestyle".

Drck said:
Sometimes it is not what you like, it is more about what you dislike. I used to work outside, hard manual and low paying job - talk about motivation! Never ever, after such experience you'll be happy to study anything. Try it for one summer and you'll see.

Same deal for me. One year between high school and university of 50- and 60-hour workweeks breaking my back putting tires on cars and having customers bitch me out over misunderstandings they were responsible for themselves most of the time gave me a motivation to actually get some kind of career where I wouldn't be doing manual labor or dealing with customer complaints all day. I never would've had that motivation without the experience.

Squirrel, maybe what you ought to do at this point is get a job of some sort for the summer, any kind. Do that until next semester. Then decide if you'd like to do that until 72 or whatever the retirement age is when you get there.

Like Drck noted, it's a lot easier to get more direction if you know you definitely DON'T want to do XYZ other thing.

One other note is start talking to people around you about what they want to do and what major they've picked and why they've picked it. I still didn't know what I wanted in my 3rd year of university and had an extremely general major it was going to be tough to find a decent job with (Management). I was fortunate enough to have a roommate who asked me what I was going to do with that major, then said I was never going to find a job with that, and advised me to sign up for the Supply Chain minor - just a few extra classes in addition to what I was already taking for my major, and it'd make me a lot more marketable. He told me about the internships he had and the stuff he'd done to optimize processes and basically turn an entire division of Tyco around during a co-op, which sounded really cool to me, so I signed up for the Supply Chain minor and it ended up being how I landed a cushy consulting gig at a big blue chip company with good pay and lots of business travel (plus eventual paid relocation to SoCal). Without that I'd probably have been running a warehouse somewhere in farm country.

I also applied for an internship at Nike after that roommate's urging that summer, and barely missed making the cut, getting some feedback from the recruiter in a follow-up call that he almost hired me, except for a better-fit candidate who'd already done everything they were looking for before, except that he maybe still wouldn't have hired me anyway because I just didn't sound excited. That annoyed me at first, but then realized this whole getting hired thing was a bit of a game, and it was one I needed to learn if I didn't want to be stuck on the outside. I got a lot more serious about interviews after that feedback - no one accused me of not being excited again.

Between those two motivations, my GPA shot up a lot 4th year after slipping quite a bit in 2nd and 3rd year (from a nearly 4.0 freshman year). Once I knew I wanted a job, and what kind of job, and a good one, suddenly the drive to actually get a decent grade returned for the first time in years.

Chase
 

Motiv

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Animatronic_Squirrel said:
I'm failing university. I'm checked out, don't know where I want to go, what I want to do. I couldn't tell you what my priorities are in life, what I enjoy.

I know this sounds desperate and helpless - I literally do not know where to turn right now. What the hell do I do? I just want to be able to get through university and get my degree.

Young men today are starving for blessing from older men, starving for blessing from the King energy. This is why they cannot, as we say, “get it together.” They shouldn’t have to. They need to be blessed. They need to be seen by the King, because if they are, something inside will come together for them. —excerpt from King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine

Drexel recommended this book to me, and now I want to recommend it to you. If you take it as a very serious read, it should help open your eyes as it did mine.

-M
 

Motiv

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brum said:
Most people won't end up living like Chase and Drexel, which is why they are in the minority.

Living like Drexel, so far as I've read here (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!), is something virtually anyone can do—granted, if you're willing to work any odd job that's available. One of the reasons his life (and mind) is so free is he never weighed himself down by materialism and/or typical "career ambition" most people seem to grind out for the duration of their lives. He seems to save as much time and energy as humanly possible to think about and study what matters most to him—something I am doing a lot more myself these days.

That said, most people (including myself) couldn't just walk away from whatever position they feel they've established at this point in their lives (although I've been seriously considering it, lately—I would never leave the violin, but I might drop the orchestra…). Personally, I would encourage you to muster what courage you can to focus on University. Of course, it is all up to you. Please, do give that book a thorough read, though.

Just some food for thought…

-M
 
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