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I took a flight for a weekend trip in another city and went out approaching. Here is the short story:
First approaches
After I arrived in the city I wasn’t really in an approaching mood, it took me a while to open two girls that happened to be sightseeing at the same area as me, they were from nearby cities, and the one I was interested in was married so nothing more here. I simply stopped them walking and we stood there at the pavement for 3-4 minutes exchanging basic info about the place and what we are doing there.
At least after leaving this one I was more warmed up so it was easier to start opening more. I still missed some chances, but eventually I opened a quite sexily dressed girl with her friend, good one as I was expecting a pretty harsh rejection but she was fairly receptive. They did seem like they were going somewhere though, I wanted to catch a train for another city anyway, so I asked her if she would be around or come by there. She looked at her friend, who gave a negative sign, then we exchanged numbers and parted ways. I texted her for a coffee the next day when I came back to that city, she asked if I have instagram, told her no it was distracting so I stopped, and we didn’t talk again.
After this one I had few more quick approaches before reaching the train. I met one girl that was quite receptive as well, only in the city for the weekend but living around the area. Not great english, but I could surely feel the vibe between us. I told her I’ll take the train and proposed to meet in the other city later. She didn’t understand well and thought I was asking her to come with me right away, I said no I have to go leave my stuff now and we can meet later. I think I could have tried to push this and take her into an adventure then and there, but I was feeling like I wanted more freedom earlier in the day to go and look around. My phone battery was off, so I had her make a call, when I opened the phone though later it wasn’t received so no further contact.
Ex Porn Actress
I got into the train, arrived at the nearby city, and I was exiting the station behind three quite sexily dressed girls, thinking how to approach, I saw another one coming from the side that was simply beautiful. Great facial structure and an elegantly aloof vibe, I approached instantly not hoping for much, but she responded and we stood there pretty close to each other instantly, to the point I got hard almost immediately. Then we got into the formalities of where you are from, what are you doing here, and I think I lost this tension a bit, which is probably an issue. Maybe it felt like I am not used to it and I cannot hold it, I honestly felt it would be too much for her to just stay there penetrating her with my energy, and should offer some space.
I asked why she is there, and she was very evasive, basically just saying she was living in another place before and here she just came and is not doing much, just hanging around, figuring what to do. And this was a pretty expensive area to just hang around with no plan for a long time, so something was strange. I pushed her a bit more asking what she was doing before, and she simply answered: I was doing porn. Not gonna lie I stayed there in silence for a bit not sure what I am supposed to say exactly, and then I told her: So you want to do something different now? She said yes, so I said: I see, I haven’t really done porn myself, but I know how it can affect your psychology. I think then I asked her about her plans for that day, and closed her with a: You feel pretty empty right now, you basically have nothing, but you’ve got a vibe that speaks to me, so let’s exchange numbers and we can maybe meet later, or in my city since you travel. We exchanged, I invited her for a drink the same night, she said she is already in bed and sleeps early, I invited her for a coffee the next morning, she said yes, we planned everything, and after waking up she texted she doesn’t want to have the coffee anymore and prefers to spend the day by herself. I now feel I could have stayed more with her and tried to do something right away, I think the whole porn thing came a bit suddenly and didn’t know how to handle it. And I should also just be more flexible about doing things on the spot.
Elegant Real Estate Consultant
After walking a bit more, and opening some other girls, I arrived at the marina of the area, a bunch of expensive yachts around, and as I was at some high ground I saw a classy woman walking ready to turn into the area of the boats, and instantly came down to not lose the chance. Said excuse me to have her stop once, she didn’t, said it again as she was walking past me, she didn’t, she was too fancy to let go though, so I went back in front of her opened more firmly, she stopped and was extra warm lol Very classy woman, she was working for real estate and was going to some event happening there for business in dubai. I told her I just visited for the weekend, she heard wedding, I joked with her if she is looking for a plus one for a wedding. Then she invited me to the event in fact, I asked her what it is about, she said it will be many hours and she will be kinda bored most probably and won’t stay for the whole thing. Didn’t want to follow her around so told her it’s better she goes there since I don’t want to get bored as well, and we can see about meeting later in the evening for a drink.
At that point she took a cigarette out said she would smoke it before getting in, I told her to put it to the other side because I don’t like the smoke, and she took a step back. Then I asked her what else she is into, told me she was a ballroom dancer in the past, I said I’ve been taking some classes myself, probably she is way better, but maybe we could make a good team. She asked what I am doing, I told her data analysis, she didn’t get it right away, so I explained telling her you need it everywhere and there are also some doing it in real estate probably. Then I asked what she likes about real estate, she told me she enjoys the communication with people, and she is good because she is honest and people trust her, although she looks cold in the beginning. I also completed her sentence there telling her that yeah people possibly feel she is cold and are intimidated which is sad because they cannot see the real person behind that, we are all the same after all, we are humans. She also told me she just likes what she is doing and doesn’t care about money, and I jokingly asked if she just doesn’t give a shit or has a rich family, and she told me her family has been very good in fact.
After a bit I simply told her I should go to find my hotel, let her go do her thing, and we exchanged numbers, telling her we may meet later. Texted her in the evening if she died of boredom already, told me she went back home to rest, said I’ll be going for a drink and proposed to her to join me, she said she wanted to check restaurants because she was hungry, I told her I ate already and she can come meet me after food, and didn’t hear from her again.
Some Extra Approaches
After that I got few more numbers from quick approaches, girls that felt excited but were also either in a hurry, told me they were too old for me or that I live far away, anyway not very significant interactions, among them also a cute girl I found sitting by herself in a public garden, that had a boyfriend, and we chatted for a bit.
Before reaching my hotel I had one last good approach, to a girl with her friend, quite elegant, was expecting a cold reaction here as well but she was pretty warm even asking me questions. She was staying in a nearby city though, we exchanged numbers, but she didn’t keep responding after she realised I will be around her city only for few hours the next day.
In The Clubs With One Good Set
At that night I went to a local club. I made a number of approaches with compliments as I usually do, not much receptiveness apart from an appreciation of the compliment, girls would mostly close off the more I tried to stay in the interaction, so I wasn’t pushing it a lot. There was one set with two uglier girls and a cute one where basically I opened the cute one and then ended up talking kinda only with her friends because she was constantly ignoring me. There was also one girl by herself that seemed quite shy, maybe I could have come back to her more, for the rest, I don’t think I would have much more positive receptions after a while.
I did have one particularly good set though. I opened a girl in the middle of her friends, she seemed into it quite fast, to the point that her friends stood back to let her talk to me. I was a a bit surprised by how well this started in fact, it rarely goes like that, also the girl had a facial structure I wasn’t used to receiving good reactions from if it makes sense. So I think I was a bit into my head thinking what to do in the interaction to make things go well, and not fully in the moment.
I did start touching fairly early though, had some fun with her, we were vibing, I took her to the bar, she didn’t want a drink but she was fine coming with me to wait as I ordered one. That’s the point I wasn’t sure how to move forward. I had a thought of going for a kiss, but her friends were around in the area, and she was paying attention to them a lot so wasn’t sure if it would have been a good choice to do it there, or it would trigger a lot of anti slut defence. I probably thought about it too much and took too little action. After the classical round of her saying oh I am older than you I didn’t expect that, we vibed a bit more and at some point she wanted to go back to her friends.
I went as well and told her I wanted to meet them anyway. Talked with the other girls a bit, the vibe wasn’t bad, but it didn’t feel that my girl was sold or that we were a pair yet, I guess I should have stayed closer to her or kissed her and escalated faster. Not sure if it would have led anywhere, since they were all living together and they got tired and wanted to go home. I still proposed to my girl to stay with me and told her friends I’ll make sure she gets home, but she wanted to go, so we just exchanged numbers.
Afterwards I went to another club, didn’t like the vibe much there, can’t say I fitted much either, most approaches were instant rejections/ignoring, I had only a short positive one as I was leaving, with a girl in a solo trip that was living with some other people though and they were all planning to take her elsewhere for her birthday, so we didn’t have enough time to even talk. I texted her the next day but she told me she was leaving the city already.
Next Day With Potential ?
Next day, after feeling a small low by the ex porn actress flaking on the coffee date I went out for some more sight seeing, and even met a girl that is supposed to come to my city this week. Sweet short interaction, didn’t want to overstay my welcome, as she also seemed like she wanted to stay more alone. We did exchange numbers though, she answered to my text, and today I sent a good morning ping to see.
After that I took the train and went back to the city with the airport, where I walked around a bit more, made some approaches in the street, one was cute girl from the area I live in, that received me well, we talked for a bit, but she told me she is 19, too young, in a different stage of her life, and some of others appreciated my approach but were in relationships.
Lone Traveller Wanting To Spend Time With Me
As I was climbing up a hill to see the view I saw what seemed to be a lone traveller, and made a comment about how I hope this view is worth it for all this climb. I rarely do this kind of indirect opening but I felt whatever let’s be in a more social mood and do things more smoothly.
And well we ended up spending the rest of the 2-3 hours before my flight together. In the beginning she even told me that she wanted to go up here alone because she is around people a lot and she loves being by herself. I took that as not a very positive sign but after enjoying some views from the hill, as we were going down and discussing about our plans for later, she even asked if she could join me, to which I jokingly answered sure she looks fine and hasn’t done anything weird yet.
She was a nice girl, cute and sweet, I just felt bad because after my opening I never really went for a more man to woman frame in the beginning, because I wasn’t even expecting us to hang around much more than the climb up, I was even surprised she wanted to chill with me more. So later it felt very strange to try and escalate things, I started touching her a bit more, but I don’t think I ever turned it into a very seductive vibe as we were walking by the beach. I was thinking whether I should just go for a kiss again, but it wasn’t really feeling on, and I had no idea where to take her in the middle of the day in this city, with the beach being totally open with quite a lot of people around.
I also had this limiting belief that she felt shy and I wanted to keep her safe basically, and show her somehow that I wasn’t friendly to her just because I wanted sex. That’s a general issue I have with girls I am friendly first in fact, even if they give me signs it feels strange to me to escalate, like I am betraying their initial trust and I am tricking them into something that wasn’t clear from the beginning. It’s why I also like being direct, but I should try to overcome it.
Anyway, she was sweet, she even gave me a small toy brick she found on the beach as a gift, then she took a lot of time helping me to find how to get to the airport because I was out of battery again. We parted ways with a hug at the train station, I truly wish her the best and to really find someone to love and fuck her as she deserves.
Content Creator At The Airport
At the airport, I arrived at the check in and noticed a classily dressed girl sitting by herself at a waiting area. Again the kind that would seem more cold from the exterior. I wanted to check in fast to be sure I catch the flight, but they told me to wait anyway, so I went and approached. Gave a compliment about how elegant she looked, I don’t think I was extremely smooth but she felt surprisingly into me right away. She offered me her instagram pretty early, I rejected it, said we can exchange whatsapps but first I took a chair from nearby and sat with her to wait.
The energy here was so good. I was hard the whole time, I was just looking at her, and she was breaking eye contact laughing one time after the other, at some point I was just having fun with it. We talked for a bit, not any long cnversation since she wasn’t that good in english, but she told me she was in a girl’s trip with her friends to celebrate some birthday, and that she is originally a content creator for instagram. I was very chill there, used her power bank to charge my phone, asked her about her jewellery, was even just sitting there saying nothing, and she would simply search through her phone to show me some of her videos herself. I had to leave in a bit to take the flight, texted her later, and the first thing she answered was what I do in my free time. I told her people say a hi how are you first
, and then said I’ve been into acting, and asked her back but with no response. Not that it would have really mattered, she lives quite far away.
Impatience To Finish The Day
After that I came back home, did some more approaches from the airport to my place, I had one girl with her friend which I could push more. I was just tired and hungry at that point to sit and work it around, so I went for a close fairly fast, she wanted to give insta, said phone is too personal, and I asked for facebook, she said that is also personal, so I chuckled told her we won’t be a good match and left.
Conclusions
All in all, as I mentioned in my last journal post it’s good to see that I can have good responses by attractive girls and have them be receptive, it’s also good that I don’t feel that intimidated to approach, and even feel warmer towards them the more attractive they feel. That said I think I am not polarising and assertive enough, basically going for the win or nothing, at least it’s what I feel. And the reason is as I mentioned that I have trouble regarding how to calibrate getting a negative response. In the past it has been the death of my interactions, and the more I have persisted the worse it has gotten, so I have been trying to be very smooth, which sometimes feels like I am not pushing for much.
I am sorry for the lack of details in some of these, they were too many in a short time and after a bit I started not remembering exactly how they all went. Still wanted to post it, because who knows maybe someone can get something out of it, or even someone can have a unique perspective regarding it.
First approaches
After I arrived in the city I wasn’t really in an approaching mood, it took me a while to open two girls that happened to be sightseeing at the same area as me, they were from nearby cities, and the one I was interested in was married so nothing more here. I simply stopped them walking and we stood there at the pavement for 3-4 minutes exchanging basic info about the place and what we are doing there.
At least after leaving this one I was more warmed up so it was easier to start opening more. I still missed some chances, but eventually I opened a quite sexily dressed girl with her friend, good one as I was expecting a pretty harsh rejection but she was fairly receptive. They did seem like they were going somewhere though, I wanted to catch a train for another city anyway, so I asked her if she would be around or come by there. She looked at her friend, who gave a negative sign, then we exchanged numbers and parted ways. I texted her for a coffee the next day when I came back to that city, she asked if I have instagram, told her no it was distracting so I stopped, and we didn’t talk again.
After this one I had few more quick approaches before reaching the train. I met one girl that was quite receptive as well, only in the city for the weekend but living around the area. Not great english, but I could surely feel the vibe between us. I told her I’ll take the train and proposed to meet in the other city later. She didn’t understand well and thought I was asking her to come with me right away, I said no I have to go leave my stuff now and we can meet later. I think I could have tried to push this and take her into an adventure then and there, but I was feeling like I wanted more freedom earlier in the day to go and look around. My phone battery was off, so I had her make a call, when I opened the phone though later it wasn’t received so no further contact.
Ex Porn Actress
I got into the train, arrived at the nearby city, and I was exiting the station behind three quite sexily dressed girls, thinking how to approach, I saw another one coming from the side that was simply beautiful. Great facial structure and an elegantly aloof vibe, I approached instantly not hoping for much, but she responded and we stood there pretty close to each other instantly, to the point I got hard almost immediately. Then we got into the formalities of where you are from, what are you doing here, and I think I lost this tension a bit, which is probably an issue. Maybe it felt like I am not used to it and I cannot hold it, I honestly felt it would be too much for her to just stay there penetrating her with my energy, and should offer some space.
I asked why she is there, and she was very evasive, basically just saying she was living in another place before and here she just came and is not doing much, just hanging around, figuring what to do. And this was a pretty expensive area to just hang around with no plan for a long time, so something was strange. I pushed her a bit more asking what she was doing before, and she simply answered: I was doing porn. Not gonna lie I stayed there in silence for a bit not sure what I am supposed to say exactly, and then I told her: So you want to do something different now? She said yes, so I said: I see, I haven’t really done porn myself, but I know how it can affect your psychology. I think then I asked her about her plans for that day, and closed her with a: You feel pretty empty right now, you basically have nothing, but you’ve got a vibe that speaks to me, so let’s exchange numbers and we can maybe meet later, or in my city since you travel. We exchanged, I invited her for a drink the same night, she said she is already in bed and sleeps early, I invited her for a coffee the next morning, she said yes, we planned everything, and after waking up she texted she doesn’t want to have the coffee anymore and prefers to spend the day by herself. I now feel I could have stayed more with her and tried to do something right away, I think the whole porn thing came a bit suddenly and didn’t know how to handle it. And I should also just be more flexible about doing things on the spot.
Elegant Real Estate Consultant
After walking a bit more, and opening some other girls, I arrived at the marina of the area, a bunch of expensive yachts around, and as I was at some high ground I saw a classy woman walking ready to turn into the area of the boats, and instantly came down to not lose the chance. Said excuse me to have her stop once, she didn’t, said it again as she was walking past me, she didn’t, she was too fancy to let go though, so I went back in front of her opened more firmly, she stopped and was extra warm lol Very classy woman, she was working for real estate and was going to some event happening there for business in dubai. I told her I just visited for the weekend, she heard wedding, I joked with her if she is looking for a plus one for a wedding. Then she invited me to the event in fact, I asked her what it is about, she said it will be many hours and she will be kinda bored most probably and won’t stay for the whole thing. Didn’t want to follow her around so told her it’s better she goes there since I don’t want to get bored as well, and we can see about meeting later in the evening for a drink.
At that point she took a cigarette out said she would smoke it before getting in, I told her to put it to the other side because I don’t like the smoke, and she took a step back. Then I asked her what else she is into, told me she was a ballroom dancer in the past, I said I’ve been taking some classes myself, probably she is way better, but maybe we could make a good team. She asked what I am doing, I told her data analysis, she didn’t get it right away, so I explained telling her you need it everywhere and there are also some doing it in real estate probably. Then I asked what she likes about real estate, she told me she enjoys the communication with people, and she is good because she is honest and people trust her, although she looks cold in the beginning. I also completed her sentence there telling her that yeah people possibly feel she is cold and are intimidated which is sad because they cannot see the real person behind that, we are all the same after all, we are humans. She also told me she just likes what she is doing and doesn’t care about money, and I jokingly asked if she just doesn’t give a shit or has a rich family, and she told me her family has been very good in fact.
After a bit I simply told her I should go to find my hotel, let her go do her thing, and we exchanged numbers, telling her we may meet later. Texted her in the evening if she died of boredom already, told me she went back home to rest, said I’ll be going for a drink and proposed to her to join me, she said she wanted to check restaurants because she was hungry, I told her I ate already and she can come meet me after food, and didn’t hear from her again.
Some Extra Approaches
After that I got few more numbers from quick approaches, girls that felt excited but were also either in a hurry, told me they were too old for me or that I live far away, anyway not very significant interactions, among them also a cute girl I found sitting by herself in a public garden, that had a boyfriend, and we chatted for a bit.
Before reaching my hotel I had one last good approach, to a girl with her friend, quite elegant, was expecting a cold reaction here as well but she was pretty warm even asking me questions. She was staying in a nearby city though, we exchanged numbers, but she didn’t keep responding after she realised I will be around her city only for few hours the next day.
In The Clubs With One Good Set
At that night I went to a local club. I made a number of approaches with compliments as I usually do, not much receptiveness apart from an appreciation of the compliment, girls would mostly close off the more I tried to stay in the interaction, so I wasn’t pushing it a lot. There was one set with two uglier girls and a cute one where basically I opened the cute one and then ended up talking kinda only with her friends because she was constantly ignoring me. There was also one girl by herself that seemed quite shy, maybe I could have come back to her more, for the rest, I don’t think I would have much more positive receptions after a while.
I did have one particularly good set though. I opened a girl in the middle of her friends, she seemed into it quite fast, to the point that her friends stood back to let her talk to me. I was a a bit surprised by how well this started in fact, it rarely goes like that, also the girl had a facial structure I wasn’t used to receiving good reactions from if it makes sense. So I think I was a bit into my head thinking what to do in the interaction to make things go well, and not fully in the moment.
I did start touching fairly early though, had some fun with her, we were vibing, I took her to the bar, she didn’t want a drink but she was fine coming with me to wait as I ordered one. That’s the point I wasn’t sure how to move forward. I had a thought of going for a kiss, but her friends were around in the area, and she was paying attention to them a lot so wasn’t sure if it would have been a good choice to do it there, or it would trigger a lot of anti slut defence. I probably thought about it too much and took too little action. After the classical round of her saying oh I am older than you I didn’t expect that, we vibed a bit more and at some point she wanted to go back to her friends.
I went as well and told her I wanted to meet them anyway. Talked with the other girls a bit, the vibe wasn’t bad, but it didn’t feel that my girl was sold or that we were a pair yet, I guess I should have stayed closer to her or kissed her and escalated faster. Not sure if it would have led anywhere, since they were all living together and they got tired and wanted to go home. I still proposed to my girl to stay with me and told her friends I’ll make sure she gets home, but she wanted to go, so we just exchanged numbers.
Afterwards I went to another club, didn’t like the vibe much there, can’t say I fitted much either, most approaches were instant rejections/ignoring, I had only a short positive one as I was leaving, with a girl in a solo trip that was living with some other people though and they were all planning to take her elsewhere for her birthday, so we didn’t have enough time to even talk. I texted her the next day but she told me she was leaving the city already.
Next Day With Potential ?
Next day, after feeling a small low by the ex porn actress flaking on the coffee date I went out for some more sight seeing, and even met a girl that is supposed to come to my city this week. Sweet short interaction, didn’t want to overstay my welcome, as she also seemed like she wanted to stay more alone. We did exchange numbers though, she answered to my text, and today I sent a good morning ping to see.
After that I took the train and went back to the city with the airport, where I walked around a bit more, made some approaches in the street, one was cute girl from the area I live in, that received me well, we talked for a bit, but she told me she is 19, too young, in a different stage of her life, and some of others appreciated my approach but were in relationships.
Lone Traveller Wanting To Spend Time With Me
As I was climbing up a hill to see the view I saw what seemed to be a lone traveller, and made a comment about how I hope this view is worth it for all this climb. I rarely do this kind of indirect opening but I felt whatever let’s be in a more social mood and do things more smoothly.
And well we ended up spending the rest of the 2-3 hours before my flight together. In the beginning she even told me that she wanted to go up here alone because she is around people a lot and she loves being by herself. I took that as not a very positive sign but after enjoying some views from the hill, as we were going down and discussing about our plans for later, she even asked if she could join me, to which I jokingly answered sure she looks fine and hasn’t done anything weird yet.
She was a nice girl, cute and sweet, I just felt bad because after my opening I never really went for a more man to woman frame in the beginning, because I wasn’t even expecting us to hang around much more than the climb up, I was even surprised she wanted to chill with me more. So later it felt very strange to try and escalate things, I started touching her a bit more, but I don’t think I ever turned it into a very seductive vibe as we were walking by the beach. I was thinking whether I should just go for a kiss again, but it wasn’t really feeling on, and I had no idea where to take her in the middle of the day in this city, with the beach being totally open with quite a lot of people around.
I also had this limiting belief that she felt shy and I wanted to keep her safe basically, and show her somehow that I wasn’t friendly to her just because I wanted sex. That’s a general issue I have with girls I am friendly first in fact, even if they give me signs it feels strange to me to escalate, like I am betraying their initial trust and I am tricking them into something that wasn’t clear from the beginning. It’s why I also like being direct, but I should try to overcome it.
Anyway, she was sweet, she even gave me a small toy brick she found on the beach as a gift, then she took a lot of time helping me to find how to get to the airport because I was out of battery again. We parted ways with a hug at the train station, I truly wish her the best and to really find someone to love and fuck her as she deserves.
Content Creator At The Airport
At the airport, I arrived at the check in and noticed a classily dressed girl sitting by herself at a waiting area. Again the kind that would seem more cold from the exterior. I wanted to check in fast to be sure I catch the flight, but they told me to wait anyway, so I went and approached. Gave a compliment about how elegant she looked, I don’t think I was extremely smooth but she felt surprisingly into me right away. She offered me her instagram pretty early, I rejected it, said we can exchange whatsapps but first I took a chair from nearby and sat with her to wait.
The energy here was so good. I was hard the whole time, I was just looking at her, and she was breaking eye contact laughing one time after the other, at some point I was just having fun with it. We talked for a bit, not any long cnversation since she wasn’t that good in english, but she told me she was in a girl’s trip with her friends to celebrate some birthday, and that she is originally a content creator for instagram. I was very chill there, used her power bank to charge my phone, asked her about her jewellery, was even just sitting there saying nothing, and she would simply search through her phone to show me some of her videos herself. I had to leave in a bit to take the flight, texted her later, and the first thing she answered was what I do in my free time. I told her people say a hi how are you first
, and then said I’ve been into acting, and asked her back but with no response. Not that it would have really mattered, she lives quite far away.Impatience To Finish The Day
After that I came back home, did some more approaches from the airport to my place, I had one girl with her friend which I could push more. I was just tired and hungry at that point to sit and work it around, so I went for a close fairly fast, she wanted to give insta, said phone is too personal, and I asked for facebook, she said that is also personal, so I chuckled told her we won’t be a good match and left.
Conclusions
All in all, as I mentioned in my last journal post it’s good to see that I can have good responses by attractive girls and have them be receptive, it’s also good that I don’t feel that intimidated to approach, and even feel warmer towards them the more attractive they feel. That said I think I am not polarising and assertive enough, basically going for the win or nothing, at least it’s what I feel. And the reason is as I mentioned that I have trouble regarding how to calibrate getting a negative response. In the past it has been the death of my interactions, and the more I have persisted the worse it has gotten, so I have been trying to be very smooth, which sometimes feels like I am not pushing for much.
I am sorry for the lack of details in some of these, they were too many in a short time and after a bit I started not remembering exactly how they all went. Still wanted to post it, because who knows maybe someone can get something out of it, or even someone can have a unique perspective regarding it.
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