FR Went to the mall, I guess I was shopping for women:)

[Mr.SocialAcceptableHarem]

This outing went really well for me. I had fun talking to these women, low anxiety, and conversations went better than past approaches. Let's get into it:

Girl 1:

To set the scene, the mall was pretty low-key, not too crowded, not to empty, I'd say tame atmosphere. My outfit was beige skater graphic design tee and beige chinos, same color well fitting, and then AF1's. Shirt may have been a little too tight but not bad. Mediocre outfit but one the best in my wardrobe (wardrobe update needed)

I saw this girl hanging outside of a store on her phone. I walk by her and do my usual thing, "oh I was just walking by and I noticed you looked really good today". She smiled.

I asked her for her name and so she just shook her head, making an awkward/embarrassed face. I just played along with it and said I wouldn't give out my name either, saying it with a smile and gesturing towards myself (hand to chest).

I asked her what she was up to and she said waiting for her mom. She looked like she was 20, I hope I wasn't hitting on someone younger than me.I asked her if she's tried the food court, she said no. I told her its pretty bad except for a couple places, I used to work there (I don't know why I said this, I didn't work there!), and you can never go wrong with the Starbucks. I used a cold read saying she looked like a coffee girl,the cold read sparked a conversation, I was wrong with my read tho. We talked about Starbucks, and she said she liked the pink drink, and then I said I had friend who loved the pink drink. I've heard doing that makes you more attainable because you are then seen as being similar people because you hang around people who are similar to her. I wasn't lying about the friend either, she likes pink drink.

I reached a point in the conversation where I ran out of things to say and then there was a silence for a couple seconds.

At this point I asked her for her number, I knew I wasn't gonna get it but I did it anyways because I didn't know what else to say. Got some advice from the general chat to either let her fill in the silence or do another cold read. Will keep in mind.

Anyways she said no and then we parted ways. Throughout the whole conversation I was positive, smiling, using gestures, confident tone. All of the socializing at college is paying off.

Girl 2:

This girl I wasn't sure if I had seen her somewhere else before. I had an idea that she was a girl from my old high school. I tapped her on her shoulder, she turned around, and yeah it was this girl from high school. I really spooked her tapping her on the shoulder, she jumped a little bit. I don't think I should try doing that again. Hector said you could do this light tap in MGE, but im not so sure now. Girl said she was in a hurry and had to meet her parents. I accepted this and we only caught up briefly, basically just explaining why were at the mall and what college we're going to. I realized later that I could've fought her frame of being in a hurry by saying something like "oh but we have a little time to catch up". I instantly went into friend mode after she said she had to leave soon, I've noticed this pattern where I will agree to what the girl wants instead of what I want. I need to self advocate, make my presence known. Moving on to the next.

Girl 3:

This was a funny one. I saw this girl walking by and I suspected her parents where the people behind her but I wasn't sure, so I approached her anyways. Side approach as always.

I remember she said that she worked at the mall. I made fun of the store she worked at saying I never go there. Then I told her where I shopped, usually thrifting for stuff. I've only thrifted once so this is partially true, but when I did thrift, I spent the whole day thrifting. I wanted to come across as a fashion conscientious guy so that's why I said that. Then I complemented her on her fashion saying something like "you must know fashion" then gesturing to her clothes. I asked her if she was wearing the Jordan concords because that's what they looked like and I was close, some other type of Jordan.

There then was an awkward silence. I stupidly said that I was currently looking for a job because my job wasn't paying me enough. I could see her expression visibly change when I said that. The sparkle went out of her eyes. I should've known better, I know that I shouldn't be mentioning negative things about myself.

After that the conversation was kinda on thin ice as I was doing all the work. I was grasping for questions like "What do you do in your free time" "how much do they pay you" (probably shouldn't be asking that one). I wasn't able to get anywhere with her so I let it go. I think if I talked a little bit less putting a bit more pressure on her and If I did a cold read, things would've gotten better. The reason I called this interaction funny is because her parents were just watching me hit on her the whole time. What kinda parent does that? I didn't realize until after it was over. This girl looked like she was in college, I just hope she wasn't from high school. on to the next.

Girl 4:

this was pretty fast. I see this beautiful girl walk by, beautiful hair and a great ass in jeans. I do my side approach. Right off the bat after my opener in a loud and clear voice, all smiles, she says she has a boyfriend. Damn. Most girls at least give me a chance to convince them there boyfriend doesn't matter so much. Either this girl really likes her boyfriend or she thinks im really ugly. Anyways clear no, at least I got to talk to her.


End comments:

-Need to talk less and give them a chance to talk, I get so excited I kinda blabber
-Why am I lying to girls over small things? (thrifting, working at the mall) Probably just my nervousness showing, will focus on honesty.
-More cold reads needed
-Two of these girl were with a parent, I wondering if that's a clear sign their in high school, College and late Highschool can look similar, how do I tell them apart?Should I ask for their age?
-Ive never tried a pre opener, I should try one next time (Examples would be greatly appreciated)

So let me know If there are any blindsides im missing here. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

 

[lceman]

End comments:

-Need to talk less and give them a chance to talk, I get so excited I kinda blabber
-Why am I lying to girls over small things? (thrifting, working at the mall) Probably just my nervousness showing, will focus on honesty.

yeah you probably just aren't used to withstanding social tension

-Two of these girl were with a parent, I wondering if that's a clear sign their in high school, College and late Highschool can look similar, how do I tell them apart?Should I ask for their age?

imo 16-17yos are easy to tell from 18+... but certainly you can ask, it's an easy way to get them to qualify

-Ive never tried a pre opener, I should try one next time (Examples would be greatly appreciated)

strong eye contact is a good one

So let me know If there are any blindsides im missing here. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

You had some good approaches and learned some things. A lot of times, people post FRs when there's something specific that went wrong and they don't know why- I don't think this is the case here.

It sounds like you know what went poorly and what to work on for next time. Which means all you need to get better is more practice.

Keep it up!

 

[Lushie]

hey brokenheartlover good stuff! I've read your previous post about your experiences after 20+ approaches and how you got two numbers (big congrats btw!) but you said weren't attractive enough for you to pursue.

I'm no master but wanted to at least offer some suggestions. After reading this field i'm curious if you have tried other venues other than malls for better volume of attractive girls who are FOR SURE adults and not teens. Ive had the same issue where i first day game at malls and i wasted so much time trying to find a hot target who wasn't a dolled up teen (make-up these days are crazy). And generally when that delays i end up just settling for an unattractive girl just to get in an approach. In other words, not good practice.

idk where you're located but really see if there are better locations for higher volume or attractive girls that are your target age range. If that means having to drive up 30mins to a college town or taking a subway to your nearest big city then perhaps that would be better.

for conversations, slowing your speech is definitely a start and something you can practice outside of gaming (I still need to work on it too). as for you making these arbitrary lies, it is a bit odd. I'm wondering if a part of you feel like who you are/your social background isn't good/cool enough that your subconscious instinctively triggers you to tell made-up lies in order to hide that vulnerable part of you. i may be reaching here, if so then ignore that. But if it is the case (or even if it isn't) one thing that could help in conversations is to take an element of what she's doing and connect a broad and general life theme to it. maybe stuff about society, the way women are portrayed, being open-minded, life lessons, living without regret, and then transitioning that to something specific that you/her/or someone you know does to bridge a conversation thread. Adding this along with your cold reads could be helpful.

hope any of that helped you but besides that keep going man, cheers!