What does burning your daygame spot look like?

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I daygame in metro, where there's a lot of people walking around - tens of thousands of people everyday. And I've been doing approaches on the one Metro station that is the most convenient to walk around, and after a month and a half of approaching I started encountering girls who said I already approached them.

Maybe 10 girls out of 2,000 approaches said (with a smile, by the way, not angry) I already approached them.

Does that mean I burnt the subway station and I need to change it?
A part of approach anxiety for me having done more than 10,000 approaches in last 10 years is thinking that people recognize me.
How realistic is that, and will anybody ever do anything about me approaching?

Did anybody ever tried to stop you from approaching in Day game Spots?

I sometimes even imagine that police will question me why am I bothering people, but that (the thoughts, not the police) only happens when I approach for more than 2 hours straight and am on my 150th approach

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I recently approached a girl in metro. I saw that she liked me, and she said that she's only in town for a little bit. I said that's fine because me too. After that she said that she admires my confidence and bravery, and I said that I only am ever afraid of losing the moment, not afraid of anything else, like approaching a girl.

I also had very straight up sexual eye contact with her and I held her hand for longer than necessary. But then the next day she refused to go on a date with a long bullshit message about how she's sorry and how her mind is not at the right place right now.

Is that just part of life? Cost of doing business so to speak? Or did I do something wrong?

And in general how much do you want to speak to a girl in their game approaches before you take a number, set up a date and move to the next one? In my experience saying anything other than setting up dates and taking the number is pretty much always useless, because she will always go home and sit down one-on-one with her own thoughts and either decide to go on a date with me or to not go on a date with me, regardless of how much fun of a time we had during the approach.

I met a girl at a wedding (I'm a wedding videographer) and we even almost laid down on the bubble couch - our bodies completely touching each other while I was showing her some of the other videos that I have made, but she still did not go on a date with me afterward, even though I thought this would be just the perfect date because she is already so comfortable with my touch.

So are those girls who seem very enthusiastic on approach let you touch and make sexual jokes themselves and then ghosting you just part of life?
Or am I doing something wrong?

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I Day game based on a lot of volume and a lot of screening - I don't even write down the number of girls who don't hug me afterward, or girls who cannot give me an actual time of day, because when I did include these girls in the circulation it always wasted a lot of my time, and probably never yielded any results whatsoever.

But still only one date out of three ever happens for me - I take a number I agree to the date, I hug it out, and two girls out of three either disappear, ghost, or just text me that they change their minds. Is that a normal statistic or am I doing something fundamentally wrong?

my approach is:
hi?
*takes airpods out*
do you have a boyfriend?
no
what is you name
maria
ok, maria, I gotta go in the opposite direction, tell me when are you free? when can we set up a date?
tomorrow after work
ok, see you then at this location, bye!

 

[Will_V]

I daygame in metro, where there's a lot of people walking around - tens of thousands of people everyday. And I've been doing approaches on the one Metro station that is the most convenient to walk around, and after a month and a half of approaching I started encountering girls who said I already approached them.

Maybe 10 girls out of 2,000 approaches said (with a smile, by the way, not angry) I already approached them.

2000 approaches in a month and a half? That's 45 approaches a day ..

Does that mean I burnt the subway station and I need to change it?
A part of approach anxiety for me having done more than 10,000 approaches in last 10 years is thinking that people recognize me.
How realistic is that, and will anybody ever do anything about me approaching?

Did anybody ever tried to stop you from approaching in Day game Spots?

I sometimes even imagine that police will question me why am I bothering people, but that (the thoughts, not the police) only happens when I approach for more than 2 hours straight and am on my 150th approach

150 approaches in 2 hours .. ?

This whole thing isn't making sense to me.

To your general question, I like to have 3 or 4 good spots and switch them up. I've had some cases of approaching girls I've met before and them remembering me, but it's never been an issue. I don't do nearly the rate of approaches you seem to be claiming though. When I go out I'll usually do 5 or 6 in a couple of hours and call it a day.

If you are spam approaching, I suppose you might catch some unwanted attention, especially because it's hard to spam good ones. Maybe try slowing down a bit and focusing on quality and incremental improvement?

 

[Will_V]

I Day game based on a lot of volume and a lot of screening - I don't even write down the number of girls who don't hug me afterward, or girls who cannot give me an actual time of day, because when I did include these girls in the circulation it always wasted a lot of my time, and probably never yielded any results whatsoever.

But still only one date out of three ever happens for me - I take a number I agree to the date, I hug it out, and two girls out of three either disappear, ghost, or just text me that they change their minds. Is that a normal statistic or am I doing something fundamentally wrong?

my approach is:
hi?
*takes airpods out*
do you have a boyfriend?
no
what is you name
maria
ok, maria, I gotta go in the opposite direction, tell me when are you free? when can we set up a date?
tomorrow after work
ok, see you then at this location, bye!

That's not a screen, that's an electrified fence.

Ever heard about building rapport/connection, breaking the touch barrier, soft closing, etc? You're missing like 95% of the substance.

I suggest studying some of the basics on GC on how to approach, like this.

 

[ChrisVirtue]

Can you explain your routine on these girls?

What's your open + hook strategy?

Sounds like you go for the number/IG fast and then exit?

Or do you ever try to instant date?

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

my approach is:
hi?
*takes airpods out*
do you have a boyfriend?
no
what is you name
maria
ok, maria, I gotta go in the opposite direction, tell me when are you free? when can we set up a date?
tomorrow after work
ok, see you then at this location, bye!

 

[FAB DRONES]

my approach is:
hi?
*takes airpods out*
do you have a boyfriend?
no
what is you name
maria
ok, maria, I gotta go in the opposite direction, tell me when are you free? when can we set up a date?
tomorrow after work
ok, see you then at this location, bye!

So I'm guessing you didn't meet up with maria? because you're saying, be here at the same time tomorrow then run away?

 

[Wierdwolf]

In relation to thread starter, I had a situation when I held hands with a date on the 1st date. We did not make a kiss in the end.... even though she touched me once, change her mind to agree with me over something, future projection with me on a date moreover,

The following 2 days, she told me she doesnt like to be touched and feel scared. She says she dun hold hands on the 1st date etc...

Did the gal ask her siblings or colleagues about this that made her 180 degrees turn her back on me ? Im baffled... not sure if anyone can explain thanks

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

Where is the perfect Middle Ground between a Spam approach and talking to someone for an hour in social setting before asking for a date?

So I have been mostly doing Day game short approaches (spam approaching) all of my life and I've had about 30 women in my bed from it. You can also probably find 30 more that were really ready to fuck me, but I fumbled the bag at one point or the other during the date.

I just recently moved to a huge City where my spam approach needed to become even shorter (as I thought) - instead of saying (slowly with a smile)

'I know it's unusual, but I saw you from over there, and I really liked you, do you have a boyfriend?'

I just asked 'hi, do you have a boyfriend?'.

This approach has given me 14 dates in 1 month out of total 1000-1500 approaches.

The other side of this coin is a super long conversation before the date even happens. For example when you talk to someone at a wedding (I am a videographer) for about 15 minutes, and you even lay down on the bubble chair with her watching some funny videos, both of your bodies fully touching. And the next day she says 'oh I'm sorry I don't feel like going on a date right now.'

The second example would be a girl photographer that liked me a lot but was resistant to touching and did not commit to a date, but then after asking her several more times during the day I just gave up and switched to talking to her just like a colleague, rather than a girl that I like. To which she frustratingly exclaimed 'or is that it? are you giving up?'

So two opposite examples of a super short (spam approach), or super long approach.

My question to you is - where is the middle ground?
How do you achieve Peak Performance per hour of doing the game?
At what point when you're approaching a girl you should just move on to the next one, and how long your day game conversations are on average?

I started doing super short approaches because I thought that girls see the product, product being me, and immediately decide if they want me or not, and all the talking after the first phrase is just wasting time that you could spend approaching other girls.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

not here tomorrow, I set up a location and time.

I had 14 dates in september

 

[Zoro]

my approach is:
hi?
*takes airpods out*
do you have a boyfriend?
no
what is you name
maria
ok, maria, I gotta go in the opposite direction, tell me when are you free? when can we set up a date?
tomorrow after work
ok, see you then at this location, bye!

I would rework your process. You’re not doing daygame, you’re spam approaching which has horrible results.

With good daygame process you can get dates from a fraction of the amount of approaches you’re doing.

Shouldn’t have a problem burning out a spot with good day game. Feels more like a social guy meeting someone new, rather than a guy bothering tons of women.

 

[AspiringStoic]

Where is the perfect Middle Ground between a Spam approach and talking to someone for an hour in social setting before asking for a date?

So I have been mostly doing Day game short approaches (spam approaching) all of my life and I've had about 30 women in my bed from it. You can also probably find 30 more that were really ready to fuck me, but I fumbled the bag at one point or the other during the date.

I just recently moved to a huge City where my spam approach needed to become even shorter (as I thought) - instead of saying (slowly with a smile)

'I know it's unusual, but I saw you from over there, and I really liked you, do you have a boyfriend?'

I just asked 'hi, do you have a boyfriend?'.

This approach has given me 14 dates in 1 month out of total 1000-1500 approaches.

The other side of this coin is a super long conversation before the date even happens. For example when you talk to someone at a wedding (I am a videographer) for about 15 minutes, and you even lay down on the bubble chair with her watching some funny videos, both of your bodies fully touching. And the next day she says 'oh I'm sorry I don't feel like going on a date right now.'

The second example would be a girl photographer that liked me a lot but was resistant to touching and did not commit to a date, but then after asking her several more times during the day I just gave up and switched to talking to her just like a colleague, rather than a girl that I like. To which she frustratingly exclaimed 'or is that it? are you giving up?'

So two opposite examples of a super short (spam approach), or super long approach.

My question to you is - where is the middle ground?
How do you achieve Peak Performance per hour of doing the game?
At what point when you're approaching a girl you should just move on to the next one, and how long your day game conversations are on average?

I started doing super short approaches because I thought that girls see the product, product being me, and immediately decide if they want me or not, and all the talking after the first phrase is just wasting time that you could spend approaching other girls.

Since our last exchange where I was intrigued by your short approach method, I have been trying to shorten my conversations. But even now, if a girl is happy to chat, I still have interactions between 3-5 minutes.

You seem to be at a unique point that most people never get to. You are able to do INCREDIBLE VOLUME that nobody has ever heard of. Why don't you just try having 3-5 minute conversations if the girl hooks, for your next 100-200 approaches and see if there is any change in your ratios.

Since you do so much volume, I think even if you slow down, you will be able to do 200 in a week or two and then you can compare and contrast your results. I would be fascinated to see what happens.

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

I would rework your process. You’re not doing daygame, you’re spam approaching which has horrible results.

With good daygame process you can get dates from a fraction of the amount of approaches you’re doing.

Shouldn’t have a problem burning out a spot with good day game. Feels more like a social guy meeting someone new, rather than a guy bothering tons of women.

what girls am I missing?

1 I am married - probably all of those would still say that if I approach like a social guy
2 Oh, thank you I have a boyfriend (in a friendzone like voice tone) - with some of those my percentage will increase?
3 just too shy/walking away - probably most of those I will just have full conversations with
4 I am not looking to meet someone - ????
5 super rare really negative - will probably not even exist?

what do you think? with what girls will I have much more success?

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

When I am setting up a date with a girl, I tell her to meet me at the designated place - it's within 15 minutes from a red square in Moscow - so, practically, still a city center. So by all accounts if she has to ride metro a long time - that's her living outside and not my problem. So anyway in my experience girls who just agreed to meet where I tell them to - on average are much more receptive to me and to my touch, to going home and stuff like that.

And girls who start asking why there, or start actively trying to move the location are going to be very closed off. And it even doesn't make sense for me to move away from my perfect Logistics and 3 minutes of walking distance from a subway station to my house where I would not be able to have sex with her on first date anyway

So if she doesn't agree to meet where I say, cancel the date?

 

[TwoNameGame]

So are those girls who seem very enthusiastic on approach let you touch and make sexual jokes themselves and then ghosting you just part of life?
Or am I doing something wrong?

It might be your texting game that doesn't keep them hooked.

Spoiler: Reasons

Per Chase's book, he describes 4 situations:

1. Too much anticipation/nervousness: She feels pressured by your low attainability and doesn’t know what to reply, so she doesn't reply. You must break the ice and ease them into it with low pressure texts.
2. Too much of a state shift: Maybe it was the vibes at the wedding that got her into "party mode" and feeling tired when she moves onto texting, which is so emotionally void, kinda got her out of it.
3. A bad ending: Awkward ends make her less comfortable continuing the conversation. End strong.
4. She wasn't interested: Maybe not your case, but maybe she was just going with the flow.

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