What is the appeal of instant Day game dates?

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

What is the appeal of instant Day game dates?

If I am on a roll and I am collecting numbers, why would I stop, change my pace completely and go on a date with one girl, that I don't know is even into it, when it's better for me to collect 3-5 more numbers in the same time that a date would last?

 

[ChrisXKiss]

What is the appeal of instant Day game dates?

If I am on a roll and I am collecting numbers, why would I stop, change my pace completely and go on a date with one girl, that I don't know is even into it, when it's better for me to collect 3-5 more numbers in the same time that a date would last?

Honestly, after going to some instant dates that led nowhere, at this point I will only take a girl to an instant date if she is generally free for a long time later

I have done the short coffee date before an appointment or the quick drink before catching a train, and I struggle to remember one time I happened to meet the girls again.

Maybe it can work, depending on how you approach the instant date, but I personally prefer to know that at least it could be possible to pull. It gives some purpose to my interactions, while a short instant date feels exactly like you described, missing time from more approaches for something that won’t lead anywhere.

 

[DonGately]

I've had much success with ice cream i-dates. YMMV.

Also: ice cream for girls >>>> coffee. Coffee they probably grab with their female friends and beta-orbiters every day. Give them a new, pleasant, delicious sensation they will associate with you from then on.

 

[Ybatman]

What is the appeal of instant Day game dates?

If I am on a roll and I am collecting numbers, why would I stop, change my pace completely and go on a date with one girl, that I don't know is even into it, when it's better for me to collect 3-5 more numbers in the same time that a date would last?

Whats your goal when you go out and do pickup?

Is your goal to collect numbers, to close same day, you need to ask yourself. Whats your goal?

 

[KJ Francis]

Honestly, after going to some instant dates that led nowhere, at this point I will only take a girl to an instant date if she is generally free for a long time later

I have done the short coffee date before an appointment or the quick drink before catching a train, and I struggle to remember one time I happened to meet the girls again.

Maybe it can work, depending on how you approach the instant date, but I personally prefer to know that at least it could be possible to pull. It gives some purpose to my interactions, while a short instant date feels exactly like you described, missing time from more approaches for something that won’t lead anywhere.

I like this line of thinking and think Chase wrote something to this point. Maybe it was someone on the forum but I think it was an article saying to check how much time she has when you meet... If it's not enough hours to date and lay, then better off setting a date and grabbing the number. Side note I am just remembering it can be good to talk a couple more minutes after taking the number so the date concept is not a big deal, just naturally part of the interaction you then strengthen slightly more. I think that was from Tony Depp.

But yeah I think the article I'm remembering said if you don't have time for the lay, you will only end up being less exciting to her by giving up some mystery. If you are sufficiently advanced, maybe you can work the additional time to your benefit, but it does seem higher odds of getting her back on a date when you do have time to close if the first meet is left on a high note after an exciting interaction where she's intrigued about your potential.

Otherwise you are just riding that excitement down... Or if you do arouse her a lot on the date, then you're not seeing it through. I'm not sure about this part but then maybe it introduces the state shift issue when she's considering your next invitation.

 

[Skills]

What is the appeal of instant Day game dates?

If I am on a roll and I am collecting numbers, why would I stop, change my pace completely and go on a date with one girl, that I don't know is even into it, when it's better for me to collect 3-5 more numbers in the same time that a date would last?

numbers don't mean much if is not a strong interaction, there most be calibration and a balance, if she is being compliant and is on, you keep going, if is not there, then you just get the number.... it depends on the situation... i personally, not a fan of insta date, but insta fuck if she is down...

 

[KJ Francis]

What is the appeal of instant Day game dates?

If I am on a roll and I am collecting numbers, why would I stop, change my pace completely and go on a date with one girl, that I don't know is even into it, when it's better for me to collect 3-5 more numbers in the same time that a date would last?

Have you expanded your method from what you've posted recently? If you don't want to get into much of either repartee (flirting, arousal, banter) or rapport (connection building), perhaps you could add compliance testing.

Building compliance may reduce flaking and also provide some information on if it's worth it or not to instadate. Then you could keep approaching unless you meet an unusually compliant girl that has a high probability for same day lay.

 

[KJ Francis]

Damn @Skills wrote it while I was typing.

 

[KJ Francis]

numbers don't mean much if is not a strong interaction, there most be calibration and a balance, if she is being compliant and is on, you keep going, if is not there, then you just get the number.... it depends on the situation... i personally, not a fan of insta date, but insta fuck if she is down...

If she is super compliant would you still do two or three bounce, or do you mean only continue if you think it's possible to isolate really fast?

 

[Ybatman]

numbers don't mean much if is not a strong interaction, there most be calibration and a balance, if she is being compliant and is on, you keep going, if is not there, then you just get the number.... it depends on the situation... i personally, not a fan of insta date, but insta fuck if she is down...

I agree with this. The thing is that instant dates can lead to same day lays. You need to push yourself with the girl in order to get better. if its just numbers your going after, then it becomes a numbers game. The more numbers you get, the more opportunities. But I think there are tons of opportunities left on the table by simply moving on and not pushing yourself in the set

 

[Skills]

If she is super compliant would you still do two or three bounce, or do you mean only continue if you think it's possible to isolate really fast?

if she super compliant you don't need to do the bounces, the bounces are to get them super compliant and comfortable and to compartalize the 3 dates into 1 date... it depends on the situation and compliance and the girl... For example in night game i do bounces with the girls that are not down (yellowish more to redish).... I don't do bounces in day game, the bounces i do mainly for online gaming, and for second encounters from day and night game if the lay not there...Many of the guys i know that did single day lay was an element of MOVING, the target/walking, which is compliance.. Tbh i never did insta date so i am not right person to ask, as i said i did more single day lay (met girl flirted and pulled)..... The guys that does a lot of insta dates and gets laid from the forum was @Skjöldr in his journal he has some samples... I personally thought they were a waste of time, till i saw @Skjöldr make them work, and that change my view... I used to the 3 bounces for second encounters, in clubs for yellowis towards redish, and online, or day game second encounter.... I never met girl from day game and did 3 bounce, i would meet day game and pull or day game get number.... I never have done the "insta date"...

 

[DonGately]

Agreed, 3 bounces vs iDate are for different girls/different interactions.

I once picked up a cute girl at a coffee shop around the corner from my apt overlooking the park. She had just finished yoga and sat at the table next to me and was giving me the puppy dog eyes look. We chatted for about 5 minutes, I asked her to come upstairs with me while giving deep eye contact and she complied. She couldn't keep her hands off me in the elevator, sometimes you just get a green light and have to take advantage of it immediately or lose it.

 

[KJ Francis]

Agreed, 3 bounces vs iDate are for different girls/different interactions.

I once picked up a cute girl at a coffee shop around the corner from my apt overlooking the park. She had just finished yoga and sat at the table next to me and was giving me the puppy dog eyes look. We chatted for about 5 minutes, I asked her to come upstairs with me while giving deep eye contact and she complied. She couldn't keep her hands off me in the elevator, sometimes you just get a green light and have to take advantage of it immediately or lose it.

Yeah I can't imagine not capitalizing an escalation window like that! Ricardus and I discussed this before in relation to Mystery's concept of fools mates. Ricardus wanted to retain the girl so he slowed it down before the first lay to build some more connection.

But yeah I would operate on the assumption that missing escalation windows would almost always lower your attainability too much and put her into auto rejection.

 

[DonGately]

Yeah, my best friend rejected this hot girl's invitation to come up at 2am, and I had to explain to him why she wasn't going to see him again. At least he understood.