What is the most efficient path to "absolute abundance"?

[DoWhatWorks]

TLDR: @Chase talks about absolute abundance as the feeling where you know you can find amazing women easily.

Inspired by Samurai Jack's recent post I've noticed that myself, guys around me and friends of this forum are at a point where getting and keeping girls isn't an issue but finding "girlfriend material" is.

We're relying on going through large numbers and essentially hoping to be "pleasantly surprised" with a girl who ticks our boxes.

This is a call to the advanced level guys... How did you reach absolute abundance and what steps can we take to efficiently get there?

Extra Info:

What is girlfriend material?

This is personal but the most common things I see:

• Little to no substance abuse
• Lower body count / good self control / not overly hedonistic
• Provides peace and low maintenance
• Domestically competent I.E can cook well, keeps her space tidy (it's sad how rare this is becoming, I've not dated a girl who can cook better than me and I find most girls messier than me)
• Is attractive and takes action to stay attractive e.g. goes for runs
• No guy friends (personally find this one silly lol but sharing anyway)
• No tattoos (personal preference some guys don't care)
• Not obsessed with social media

Some steps that I've tried:

1. Understanding girl archetypes and going to venues and locations that attract them
2. Increasing fundamentals e.g. outfits, haircuts and fragrances
3. Being more focused on my purpose which has attracted more wholesome, supportive & submissive behaviors from women in my life.

Even with the above out of 60+ lays from mostly a combination of daygame, nightgame and online I can say only 3 girls I were remotely GF material.

That's a <5% lol so definitely things I could be doing better just don't know what they are...

 

[Gunwitch]

What is girlfriend material?

This is personal but the most common things I see:

• Little to no substance abuse
• Lower body count / good self control / not overly hedonistic
• Provides peace and low maintenance
• Domestically competent I.E can cook well, keeps her space tidy (it's sad how rare this is becoming, I've not dated a girl who can cook better than me and I find most girls messier than me)
• Is attractive and takes action to stay attractive e.g. goes for runs
• No guy friends (personally find this one silly lol but sharing anyway)
• No tattoos (personal preference some guys don't care)
• Not obsessed with social media

Solution? Build a time machine or leave western world.

Not being snarky here, am serious.

All those issues there you named are about things you lack, or judge on etc. Being threatened by the things you listed, and wanting a girlfriend and defining it as "abundance" vs comfort, is it's own issue.

Sure think class not trash as an ideal.

ALSO though:

Think fun, not judgement and taking everything a woman does or is as a personal assault on you as a man, and you'll ironic have more abundance in just banging women for fun and pleasure.

Bottom line, wanna "sow your oats" or fall in "love"? More pussy is never gonna be enough, and it's a one night stand who gives a shit about her decency or value? Or you want to "fall in love" with any given chick, it ain't love in hindsight a decade from now, so you'll put up with her tattoos haha or dirty kitchen to fuck her more cause you are drunk from chemicals you think are love.

End of the day, lighten up, bang as many women who turn you on as you can, and stop planning to fall in love with someone you haven't met yet, possibly based on a checklist of obedience and moral values.

Fuck who turns you on, even if she's got a neck tat/you don't respect her as a human being. Also if you fall in love make it last for utility, shared responsibility, genuine friendship and enjoyment of her companionship, REAL values, not a checklist of "she isn't a stupid whore".

SO the solution, DO BOTH. Bang chicks who turn you on and aren't "ideal" for pleasure much as you can. Let possible love, and LTRs also happen, let it happen natural, don't get picky over some list of criteria, but also don't fool yourself into thinking she's perfect either, keep your list of criteria in mind there, and "do I actually enjoy her company or her pussy" in mind.


Gun

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Solution? Build a time machine or leave western world.

Haha fair enough, although as someone born from a developing country, the grass isn't greener from what my cousins tell me...

All those issues there you named are about things you lack, or judge on etc. Being threatened by the things you listed

Completely get your view but that isn't the case for me. Most the girls I date for long periods of time have those traits and treat me very well. Hell 2/3 of my current rotation would horribly fail the list.

wanting a girlfriend and defining it as "abundance" vs comfort, is it's own issue.

Again I respectfully understand why you took this angle and I should have been clearer in my post. I'm happy being single and often have rotations along side ONS.

What I'm observing though is that the girls I'm ending up with don't fit long term requirements, which is fine for now but I'm hyper aware that my preferences will likely change when I reach my 30's. Now many pro guys here won't fit that category but they're definitely outliers.

Think fun, not judgement and taking everything a woman does or is as a personal assault on you as a man, and you'll ironic have more abundance in just banging women for fun and pleasure.

Fully agree with fun and non-judgement. Reason why I know what these girls are really like is because they feel comfortable completely sharing it with me. Where paths diverge is some guys are happy banging ton of women forever and others simply aren't and will want companionship at some point.

I also don't think it's unreasonable to state that certain personalities and types of girls are better in relationships.

Just like the way tattoo, hedonistic and drug taking girls are more likely to be better in bed as they have fewer inhibitions.

stop planning to fall in love with someone you haven't met yet,

I'm not planning to fall in love, simply learn how to increase my % of meeting a certain kind of girl.

SO the solution, DO BOTH. Bang chicks who turn you on and aren't "ideal" for pleasure much as you can.

100% agree

Let possible love, and LTRs also happen, let it happen natural, don't get picky over some list of criteria,

Respectfully disagree. If I let myself fall in love with some girls I've dated I'd need a therapist and you'd see a ton of moaning posts from me lol.

keep your list of criteria in mind there, and "do I actually enjoy her company or her pussy" in mind.

My main takeaway from your post is run volume and let it come to you without expectations... Which is fine just making sure I've understood correctly.

 

[Gunwitch]

Respectfully disagree. If I let myself fall in love with some girls I've dated I'd need a therapist and you'd see a ton of moaning posts from me lol.

If you can see that you aren't in any trouble. You'd never fall in chemical love with them and mistake it for respect or real love. That's an edge many don't have.

My main takeaway from your post is run volume and let it come to you without expectations... Which is fine just making sure I've understood correctly.

Yeah exactly, i'm saying don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, unless picking up undesirable women has become such a time consumption that it's making it impossible to screen for "perfect" quality. Even then though all the time in the world, they're all gonna have flaws, maybe multiple flaws of your criteria, then they could end up perfect in all the ways where it matters. Why I advise a real balanced approach with this, vs a hard strategy of any sort, because if you don't remain fluid with this you could miss out in both ways. Take each one as you find her I say.

Might end up love of your life can't cook and plays on her instagram all the time. Sure as fuck don't wanna miss out on banging chicks with tats meanwhile!

These things with an abundance mindset gone too far could start not making you more attractive in vibe, and instead, if not balanced start making you nitpick small things. Things that just interfere with connecting with new women, even enough to fuck them much less anything more.

Don't get so far into demanding a standard, that you don't seem like a guy who has abundance sexually to women, but instead seem scarce and distant to them. That will attract it's own ball of crazy!


Gun

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Appreciate your response @Gunwitch

For benefit of anyone else lurking the way I strive for balance is only having 2 requirements for sex/ FB's:

1. I find them attractive (enough)
2. They treat me well.

That obviously casts a wide net and then when considering serious candidates I filter against the list:

What is girlfriend material?

This is personal but the most common things I see:

• Little to no substance abuse
• Lower body count / good self control / not overly hedonistic
• Provides peace and low maintenance
• Domestically competent I.E can cook well, keeps her space tidy (it's sad how rare this is becoming, I've not dated a girl who can cook better than me and I find most girls messier than me)
• Is attractive and takes action to stay attractive e.g. goes for runs
• No guy friends (personally find this one silly lol but sharing anyway)
• No tattoos (personal preference some guys don't care)
• Not obsessed with social media

All in a light and fun non-judgmental way. Think of it as hiring for a receptionist vs Chief Operations Officer

 

[trashKENNUT]

Solution? Build a time machine or leave western world.

Not being snarky here, am serious

I second this

To answer the post, I won't give my opinion in this because my data on "beautiful women are <insert> actually limits you",

has not been taken well.

A lot of guys need "beautiful women are <insert>" to propel them. So yea. You don't want to kinda blackpill the whole community even though it is not my intent.


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